Palestinian Arabs went on a murderous rampage within hours of the Partition vote

[Solomon2]

• Wednesday, November 30, 2016
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  Elder of Ziyon

Palestinian Arabs went on a murderous rampage within hours of the Partition vote

Today is the anniversary of the beginning of Israel's War of Independence.

Because in the hours immediately following the UN partition vote, Palestinian Arabs started attacking Jews wherever they could find them.

Here are articles from the Palestine Post the next day:

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The descendants of these people are now pretending at the UN that they deserve a state based on the resolution that they so violently rejected.
And the UN now whitewashes the facts that the entire Arab world, and specifically the Palestinian Arabs, opposed the resolution in its video about the resolution. (As well as how Jordan and Egypt occupied "Palestinian land" in 1948.)

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[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

ok 1 dozen jews were killed along with thousands of palestinians.

 

[Samlee]

Why Don't You Talk About Irgun And Other Jewish Terrorist Organizations

 

[Solomon2]

ok 1 dozen jews were killed along with thousands of palestinians.

No such record in the article.

The fact that's twisting Pakistanis minds into ill-logic and militarism is the refusal to admit that the Arabs have been the aggressors and the Jews are in the right in the Arab-Israeli conflict. You can't say it because the gov't compels you to. But the least you can do is to not endorse shameful anti-Zionist lies.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Were they Christian Palestinian or Muslim Palestinan or both?

 

[The Accountant]

No such record in the article.

The fact that's twisting Pakistanis minds into ill-logic and militarism is the refusal to admit that the Arabs have been the aggressors and the Jews are in the right in the Arab-Israeli conflict. You can't say it because the gov't compels you to. But the least you can do is to not endorse shameful anti-Zionist lies.

You are right ... I should agree with you that palestinian were aggressors and jews were innocent but then i wonder how come aggressors land lost to innocent ... Desn't that defy logic ????

 

[YeBeWarned]

Poor Jews the entire world is after their pure blood for no Reason ... so sad , these chosen people were persecuted for no reason .. very very poor Souls

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

No such record in the article.

The fact that's twisting Pakistanis minds into ill-logic and militarism is the refusal to admit that the Arabs have been the aggressors and the Jews are in the right in the Arab-Israeli conflict. You can't say it because the gov't compels you to. But the least you can do is to not endorse shameful anti-Zionist lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war

 

[Solomon2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war

Your links relate to 1948. The U.N. partition vote was in 1947.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Your links relate to 1948. The U.N. partition vote was in 1947.

but it were the aftermath of same votings. take whole list of jewish terrorism.
https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress...athmasters-israeli-massacres-on-palestinians/

 

[Mansoon]

Were they Christian Palestinian or Muslim Palestinan or both?

Both. Palestinian Arabs hate Jews to this date.

You are right ... I should agree with you that palestinian were aggressors and jews were innocent but then i wonder how come aggressors land lost to innocent ... Desn't that defy logic ????

Because defenders were able to defend themselves after initial losses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war

In war killings and massacres happen on both sides

but it were the aftermath of same votings. take whole list of jewish terrorism.
https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress...athmasters-israeli-massacres-on-palestinians/

Counter terrorism

 

[Solomon2]

but it were the aftermath of same votings. take whole list of jewish terrorism -

The point - and you are reinforcing it - is that Pakistanis are denied the right of moral judgment in Israel-Arab matters by their own government. You cannot hold such things to be true until you've demonstrated you're willing to debate both sides of the issue in context, rather than bash only one side, out-of-context, and using questionable sources.

 

[TankMan]

The point - and you are reinforcing it - is that Pakistanis are denied the right of moral judgment in Israel-Arab matters by their own government.

Says an Israeli propagandist posting on a Pakistani forum.

Our government doesn't deny us any "moral judgement".

We all reject Zionism and Israel's policies based on the fact that Israel has been engaged in a brutal and illegal occupation of Palestine. It has nothing to do with our government.

Millions of people around the world hold the same view - are they also somehow being denied "moral judgement" by Pakistan's government?

You cannot hold such things to be true until you've demonstrated you're willing to debate both sides of the issue in context, rather than bash only one side, out-of-context, and using questionable sources.

Yeah, a blog called "The Elder of Ziyon" is definitely an unbiased, reliable source that debates both sides of the issue. And that headline is definitely not a piece of blatant propaganda attempting to demonize Arabs and make Zionists look like victims.

If you want to read about 'murderous rampage', try this:
http://www.wrmea.org/2006-may-june/hamas-a-pale-image-of-the-jewish-irgun-and-lehi-gangs.html

The Irgun was the dominant Jewish terrorist organization, both in size and the number and frequency of its attacks. Its most spectacular feat up to this time had been the July 22, 1946 blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, with the killing of 91 people—41 Arabs, 28 British and 17 Jews. Mainstream Zionists despised Begin and his Revisionists, although there was cooperation between the two on military matters. Ben-Gurion, the leader of mainstream Zionism, fought throughout his premiership with Begin.

As historian Michael C. Hudson noted: “Organized Jewish violence against the British and Arabs (exemplified by the Irgun’s bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946), however, was far more systematic and successful than that of the Palestinians, and the latter were unable to play a significant role in the final years of the Mandate.”

@Solomon2 you should note that the 1946 King David Hotel bombing was before the 1947 UN Partition Vote.

You should also have a look at this timeline:

Jan. 12—Four killed by Irgun terrorist bombing of British headquarters.
Jan. 13—Arab kidnapped and castrated by Jewish terrorists.
March 1—Sixteen Britons killed by Jewish terrorists/Britain invokes martial law
March 10—Jewish informer killed by Jewish terrorists.
March 11—Two British soldiers killed by Jewish terrorists.
April 8—British constable killed by Jewish terrorists.
April 8—Jewish boy killed by British troops.
April 8—Jew beaten to death by Arabs.
April 22—Eight killed in Jewish terrorist bombing of the Cairo-Haifa train.
April 25—Five killed in Jewish terrorist bombing of British camp.
April 26—British police official killed by Jewish terrorist.
May 8—Three Jewish shops in Tel Aviv whose owners refused to contribute to Jewish terrorist groups burned down by Jewish terrorists.
May 8—Jew killed near Tel Aviv by Arab terrorists.
May 12—Two British policemen killed in Jewish Jerusalem.
May 15—British policeman killed in terrorist ambush.
May 15—Two British soldiers killed in terrorist Stern Gang attack.
May 16—Two British police officers killed by terrorists.
May 18—One Jew killed, one wounded by Arab terrorists.
June 5—Jewish terrorists introduce letter bombs in Middle East.
June 28—Four British soldiers killed in Jewish terrorist raids.
July 3—“Anti-terrorist” Jewish families beaten up by Irgunists.
July 18—British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists.
July 19—Another British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists.
July 20—Yet another British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists.
July 23—65 Jews killed when Haganah sinks immigration ship.
July 26—Two British soldiers killed in booby trap.
July 29—Three Jews executed by hanging. Jewish terrorists retaliate by hanging two British soldiers.
Aug. 5—Three British police killed by bomb; plot discovered to poison the water supply of non-Jewish parts of Jerusalem with botulism and other bacteria.
Aug. 10—Four Jews killed in Arab terror attack on Tel Aviv café.
Aug. 12—Five Jews, four Arabs killed, others injured, in spread of violent incidents over three days.
Aug. 15—Twelve Palestinians killed in raid by Haganah troops.
Aug. 18—Shops of five Jews in Tel Aviv destroyed by Jewish terrorists.
Aug. 23—Five Arabs of one family—two men, a woman and two children—killed by Jewish terrorists.
Sept. 7—French foil Stern Gang plot to air bomb London.
Sept. 21—British messenger killed by Jewish terrorists.
Sept. 26—Four British policemen killed in Irgun terrorist bank robbery.
Sept. 27—Illegal Jewish immigrant killed by British.
Sept. 29—13 killed, 53 wounded in Irgun terrorist attack on British police station.
Oct. 4—Two Jews killed in ambush, two Arabs killed in retaliation.
Oct. 13—Two British troops killed by Jewish terrorists in Jerusalem.
Oct. 26—Jewish settlement policeman found killed near Gaza.
Nov. 3—Jewish policeman killed, reportedly by Stern Gang after refusing to reveal secret police matters.
Nov. 12—21 killed in British-Jewish clashes.
Nov. 14—Jewish terrorists kill 4 Britons in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv
Nov. 30—Violent riots erupt throughout Arab world following adoption of U.N. partition plan. In Palestine, seven Jews killed and eight wounded in the first day. All told, during the first week at least 159 persons were killed in the Middle East, 66 of them in Palestine.
Dec. 2—Palestinians begin 3-day protest strike; 20 Jews, 15 Arabs killed. Five Arabs and seven Jews were killed the next day during a six-hour battle on the Tel Aviv-Jaffa border.
Dec. 13—35 Palestinian civilians killed in Jewish terrorist attacks.
Dec. 14—14 Jews killed by Arab Legion in retaliation.
Dec. 18—Palmach (“assault companies”) kills 10 Arabs, including 5 children, in nighttime raid on northern Galilee village of Khissas. The following day Haganah troops blew up the home of the village elder of Qazaza in central Palestine, killing several inhabitants. Wrote The Times of London: “While the Jews are suffering mainly through sniping at their road convoys, the Arabs have lost many lives through Jewish assaults on their villages.”
Dec. 20—Haganah raid on village of Qazaza kills one Palestinian.
Dec. 24—Stern Gang member killed for betrayal of another member.
Dec. 25—16 Arabs, Jews and British killed on Christmas.
Dec. 25—Palestinian landowner killed for selling land to Jews.
Dec. 26—Ben-Gurion proposes major offensive to reduce Arab population.
Dec. 26—Jewish terrorists get $107,000 in heists of diamond plants.
Dec. 29—14 Arabs killed by Irgun bomb in Jerusalem.
Dec. 29—Irgun flogs British major and three sergeants.
Dec. 30—41 Jews, 6 Arabs killed in riot sparked by Stern Gang.
Dec. 31—Irgun claims to have killed 374 Arabs and British during year.

Notice all the violence against Arabs (and even other Jews) perpetrated by Zionist Terrorists before the Partition on 30th November?

You are obviously going to ignore or reject these facts. Do not insult yourself by pretending to be "willing to debate both sides of the issue".

 

[Solomon2]

Says an Israeli propagandist posting on a Pakistani forum.
Our government doesn't deny any "moral judgement".

Regarding Israel, Pakistan's H.E.C. has instructed it's universities to

"remain very vigilant and forestall any activity that in any manner challenge(s) the ideology and principles of Pakistan, and/or perspective of the government of Pakistan."

Yeah, a blog called "The Elder of Ziyon" is definitely an unbiased, reliable source -

It is unabashedly pro-Israel. That doesn't mean the facts it presents aren't truthful or in context. Indeed EoZ often does present the "other side" of the issue - it just shows how untruthful it is.

you should note that the 1946 King David Hotel bombing was before the 1947 UN Partition Vote.

The KD bombing was aimed at the British military HQ, not Arabs.

You should also have a look at this timeline -

A "timeline" that is highly selective, just as I've pointed out, to omit context that contradicts Pakistanis' enforced narrative. Not worth much.

 

[TankMan]

Regarding Israel, Pakistan's H.E.C. has instructed it's universities to

"remain very vigilant and forestall any activity that in any manner challenge(s) the ideology and principles of Pakistan, and/or perspective of the government of Pakistan."

Let's compare that to the British Department of Education, which says "schools ‘must actively promote British values"

According to the document: “Actively promoting the values means challenging opinions or behaviours in school that are contrary to fundamental British values. Attempts to promote systems that undermine fundamental British values would be completely at odds with schools’ duty to provide SMSC.”
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/nov/27/schools-england-promote-british-values

Is that really any different to the HEC's instructions?

Such guidelines from education departments are common around the world. Even in Israel, that Divine Bastion of Free Speech and Democracy, this happens:
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/society/2016/2/14/israeli-ministry-heavily-censors-school-textbook
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...love-affair-is-barred-from-israeli-curriculum

If the Pakistan HEC's instructions count as "denying moral judgement", then so do Israel and Britain, and most countries in the world.

The KD bombing was aimed at the British military HQ, not Arabs.

Well then, Hamas' rockets are aimed at Israeli military HQs, not civilians. That makes it okay, right?

A "timeline" that is highly selective, just as I've pointed out, to omit context that contradicts Pakistanis' enforced narrative. Not worth much.

The source of that timeline is unabashedly pro-Palestine. That doesn't mean the facts it presents aren't truthful or "highly selective". Indeed it does present the "other side" of the issue - it just shows how untruthful it often is.