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For two years I have maintained that Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity. Since 1980s Paks have been the victim of this crime with increasing intensity. The results for both the Pak State and Pak People are becoming grave by the day.

The result of this #EconomicTerrorism is that the majority of Paks have not only become poor but the State itself has become most vulnerable than ever before.
This is the fruit of current system.

A do or die decision moment?
Or simply survive this one and we'll see what happens next attitude shall continue?

But for how long such an attitude can Perserve the State?

Without a state there cann't be a nation. That's why Perservation of the State is Highest Virtue.
Perservation of State is the only thing that matters... without it there is no identity or culture as a composite. Or a civilisation can exist. The State is the Framework of all else to exist in relative freedom.

Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity:

What is this evil?

When someone steals a TV from a house it is not just an object that is stolen. But part of life is stolen. Someone had to work, save money, there would have been family's emotional investement and family time together... a long chain of Value.

So it is not just the object that gets stolen but part of life gets stolen.

Therefore, in a fair judicial system... it is overweighed the motivation of theft. Whether it was to quench fire of hunger or a criminal enterprise? Punishment accordingly.

A TV can be returned! Value regained....but...

When the theft becomes organised the consequences are the collapse of a system. Corruption is theft simply. An individual government empolyee taking bribe to provide serivces which are the rights of a citizen is individual corruption.

However, when the entire governmental departments, bureaucracy and politicos get into the act then its a National Theft with national consequences.

The result of this is denial of education, health and justice. NS league, Zardari League, Mullah League are all part of this enterprise. Becuase they have not stolen just the money but the future of Paks.

They have stolen Right to Human Dignity.


What does stunted growth means?
It means that that child will never reach a full human potential. Essentially becoming a subhuman. This has happened to about 50% of Paks. Those who are above the poverty line won't get education or health care or justice. Creating the vast majority of population of dispossessed citizens.

Even if by some miracle all the stolen wealth is recovered it will take two generations to recover from the impact of this Oranised Crime. Because subhumans won't be able to raise Quality Humans to contribute to National Strength while the rest of the world moves into Super Intelligence of AI dominated economies.

Subhumans don't have human right!

Anatomy of Corruption:

In its simplest definition corruption is not doing one's job in accordance to the defined rules. Pak's sickness of corruption has its roots after the assasination of first PM of Pak. Then it was corruption for power. ZAB was the ulitmate example of its peak. Enter Zia and he brought in the cancer of Total Corruption with JUI-NS alliance.

From day one NS turned politics into business..he didn't see people but assets to be bought, invested in and utilised. This investement is still paying off in judiciary and bureaucracy. All are NS assets.

1992 Isaq $ Money Bill laid the foundation of money laundering in Pak. The capital flight became easier and PKR remains on steady decline ever since. In other words increasing poverty growth in Pak.

In the 90s BB-Zardari took lessons from NS and joined in the looting... Mullahs also were rewarded with assets. Relgion became more profitable. Everyone has now offshore holdings/trusts and assets.

Even the bureaucrats have offshore companies. Let us not forget judges and other instituitions. Either on their name or their kids/wives. Some Paks are very very rich.

True Size of Pak's Economy:

It is quite difficult to determine the true size of Pak economy without validated data. However, about 60% to 70% Pak's economy is black within Pak borders. However, when we take into consideration the money that went off shore the picture changes.

The billions of dollars that got laundered got invested. That money is not sitting idle. Money when it sits idle loses its value. Be it BD garments industry, realestate in ME, Europe, North America or South... all has increased in value... e.g. NS sons are into property business or some others own hotels directly or through frontmen.

The point being that all these assets and business are the property of Paks and indirectly part of Pak economy. Let us just forget narcobusiness exports and networks.

Can then someone calculate the true size of Pak's Economy?

Compromised National Sovereignty:
From Friends not Masters to Condi Rice installed PPP and then PMLN governments the decline has been steep.

Yes, the nuklier bumb. We know. But that is only useful for survival.

National Life is far more than just nuklier bumb. And of course ZAB gave it to the Nation... oh no.. it was NS who exploded the bumb with his own hands..NS the Supreme Leader wouldn't even sign the damn order... some leaders these parasites... (Do you know how many died because of radioactive poisoning? And these parasite don't tire of claiming credit)

PM/COAS of a nation of 220 million, with 65+% youth, has to go hat in hand to friends to save the country from default is not an act of a Sovereign Regional Power.

This state of being didn't happen overnight. It is a gradual process, seeds of which were laid by ZAB... furthered by Zia's renting out the State... plunder of 90's... Mushy's installing of agents of Masters of the Universe, influx of NGOs... 10 years of dimmocracy with historic Economic Terrorism combined with Hybridwar and daily bomblasts. $250+Bln loss to economy and 70+k Paks dead. That is 70+k families.

The infilteration of religious outfits by foreign powers that started in Zia time for purely secterian death orgy has now become a darkweb of hostile agencies... in otherwords, a clear and present danger.

There are more dollars/foreign currency in private hands within Pak borders than the package Pak needs from IMF with historically harsh conditions. IMF loans are political. Never economic.

And the State is so weak that it cann't even take a Sovereing Decision to sieze all foreign currency and give the holders PKR at fairvalue even. Gettting looted wealth back to Pak is tedious and time consuming why cann't SBP and FIA just sieze dollars?

Comprehensive National Strength:
What is Pak's comprehensive national strength?
It is the sum of performance of state instituitions, quality and magnitude of education of the populace, net output of science and technology, stability of internal and external environment and economic/financial stability.

Apart from a few national security instituitions all other factors have been compromised. Or rather down right useless.. When NS /Zardari regimes could use IB to spy on the army and ISI then we know what could be the relative CNS of Pak State.

Pak State/Govs have consistently failed to formulate any policy to advance Human Condition in Pak.

18th Amendement was the final nail....it created defacto four countries where centre is there to beg friends and IMF/WB and provinces are there to money launder and plunder.

Educated Slave Drivers:
The British ruled the world and the subcontinent through a combination of pomp, bluf, disdain and local bureaucracy... they created with great success coconuts. How else a few thousands could rule over 100s of millions in the subcontinent?

The same attitude of ruling the locals has been the fate of Pak and Paks. The Pak bureaucracy as intituition has this superiority complex towards the populace. From the induction through this stupid entrance exampe this attitude is ingrained.... making them see themselves as Ubermens.

Had the bureaucracy not been part of #CriminalEnterprise organised corruption could never have happened in Pak. How else could these bureaucrats end up billionaires with their children and wives having foreign nationalities?

Without any specialised knowledge armed with a bloody exame they passed they get to continue the system. Whats more is the work of these glorified clerks other than writting summaries and 'following' business rules?

How come a country on the verge of collapse has its bureaucracy having multiple cars and great mansions to live in...while the sea of subhumans keep growing?

Just have look at China and see how there are government employees and not bureaucrats? Let alone developed world where there are no private drivers for Sir, Mrs, kids and AC for dogs...

LaWhore Justice System:

Whoring became more accentuated during the rise of NS... like in the bureaucracy judicary became populated by his men. Loyal to him than the State or Consitution. Same occured in Sindh.... Zardari copied NS method with zeal...

So this process of 'relief' should not come as a surprise to anyone. Justice in this Criminal System is the privilge of the mighty. Subhumans must die without a bail.

However, this LaWhoring of judicial system has compromised the writ of the state. NAP cann't advance in the presence of compromised judiciary.

FBR a 8 Trillion PKR Racket:
FBR had the information about NS's wife's appartment but sat on it. It didn't became public. And when it did...NOTHING happened.

And estimated 6-8 Trillions are taken by the FBR every year.... where does this money go? How does this money get laundered or assets bought by the FBR officials?

Is the State so impotent that it cann't do anything about it? Is it not an issue of National Security to get to this racket and fill the national treasure so that it could be spent on the people?

Energy & IPP:
One of the biggest #EconomicTerrorism has been the trading in energy imports and IPPs. Both are part of the same mafia which has turned the State and 220million into hostage. With ever increasing Circular Debt to be paid by the population.

Of course, the State knows who is frontman of whom and how much money is stached where. ROI on these IPPs has been long earned and some more... yet still capacity payments. What else could be called Crime?

If these IPP owners and energy mafia are Pakistanis then how come the State is so weak in front of these terrorists? It is same mafia which has sabotaged the Dam buildings in Pak in cooperation with bureaucracy.

Pak is going to be one of the most hit by climate change with only a very limited water storage... if this not a Crime Agianst Humanity then what would qualify?

Go to China / Disease is profitable:
Knowledge should be the byproduct of education. But the education has become most profitable business. The State has accepted its failure and impotance by not being able to provide education and being able to regulate fees of the private educational businesses.

By the same laziness the State has withdrawn itself from its duty to proivde healthcare same as justice. It is nothing more than a paralysed observer to see how drug companies make a killing from the suffering of others and how dispossessed die outside of hospitals.


It is the responsibility of the State to:

Provide Freedom Against Hunger

Provide Freedom Against Injustice


Provide Freedom Against Ignorance

All of State's policies have to be directed towards this end. Otherwise, a State has no right to be called civilised.

What is the solution to remedy this Crime Agianst Humanity:

NAB is not going to do jack... the parliment is not going to pass a law against itself...

The current constituition of Pak has an article that guarantees Right to Life.

A petition needs to be filed in SC of Pak that Crimes Against Humanity have been committed and it needs to declare it as such. There is so much data available about number deaths, kids out of schools, sale of public assets at fire sale prices etc.

The key is legal framing of the Crime Agianst Humanity and the evidence to support it.

After the decision PK rep in the UN must file a resolution to have UN declare that Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity. There is already Anti-Corruption and MoneyLaundering Convention...

After this the no one on Earth can hide from justice... all the looted wealth and criminals can be be brought back. And in the process Pak State would have done a great service to Humanity.

Will the Pak State do such a thing?
 
State can only if it has the BALLS of steel. It would require a intervention by the establishment. Send the courts and corrupt bureaucracy packing...change the system and initiate new state organs from the scratch like the judiciary and bureaucracy.
 
Musharraf had a chance to fix but he gave nro to politicians in return we got 18th amendment and high debt and the Judiciary, lawyer march gave handicap courts law for elite money driven its more like a business then justice.
Hope is that we get referendum to establish new system of governing and hang all corrupt no one over age 50 should be allowed to hold office we have 65% youth for godsake.
 
For two years I have maintained that Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity. Since 1980s Paks have been the victim of this crime with increasing intensity. The results for both the Pak State and Pak People are becoming grave by the day.

The result of this #EconomicTerrorism is that the majority of Paks have not only become poor but the State itself has become most vulnerable than ever before.
This is the fruit of current system.

A do or die decision moment?
Or simply survive this one and we'll see what happens next attitude shall continue?

But for how long such an attitude can Perserve the State?

Without a state there cann't be a nation. That's why Perservation of the State is Highest Virtue.
Perservation of State is the only thing that matters... without it there is no identity or culture as a composite. Or a civilisation can exist. The State is the Framework of all else to exist in relative freedom.

Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity:

What is this evil?

When someone steals a TV from a house it is not just an object that is stolen. But part of life is stolen. Someone had to work, save money, there would have been family's emotional investement and family time together... a long chain of Value.

So it is not just the object that gets stolen but part of life gets stolen.

Therefore, in a fair judicial system... it is overweighed the motivation of theft. Whether it was to quench fire of hunger or a criminal enterprise? Punishment accordingly.

A TV can be returned! Value regained....but...

When the theft becomes organised the consequences are the collapse of a system. Corruption is theft simply. An individual government empolyee taking bribe to provide serivces which are the rights of a citizen is individual corruption.

However, when the entire governmental departments, bureaucracy and politicos get into the act then its a National Theft with national consequences.

The result of this is denial of education, health and justice. NS league, Zardari League, Mullah League are all part of this enterprise. Becuase they have not stolen just the money but the future of Paks.

They have stolen Right to Human Dignity.


What does stunted growth means?
It means that that child will never reach a full human potential. Essentially becoming a subhuman. This has happened to about 50% of Paks. Those who are above the poverty line won't get education or health care or justice. Creating the vast majority of population of dispossessed citizens.

Even if by some miracle all the stolen wealth is recovered it will take two generations to recover from the impact of this Oranised Crime. Because subhumans won't be able to raise Quality Humans to contribute to National Strength while the rest of the world moves into Super Intelligence of AI dominated economies.

Subhumans don't have human right!

Anatomy of Corruption:

In its simplest definition corruption is not doing one's job in accordance to the defined rules. Pak's sickness of corruption has its roots after the assasination of first PM of Pak. Then it was corruption for power. ZAB was the ulitmate example of its peak. Enter Zia and he brought in the cancer of Total Corruption with JUI-NS alliance.

From day one NS turned politics into business..he didn't see people but assets to be bought, invested in and utilised. This investement is still paying off in judiciary and bureaucracy. All are NS assets.

1992 Isaq $ Money Bill laid the foundation of money laundering in Pak. The capital flight became easier and PKR remains on steady decline ever since. In other words increasing poverty growth in Pak.

In the 90s BB-Zardari took lessons from NS and joined in the looting... Mullahs also were rewarded with assets. Relgion became more profitable. Everyone has now offshore holdings/trusts and assets.

Even the bureaucrats have offshore companies. Let us not forget judges and other instituitions. Either on their name or their kids/wives. Some Paks are very very rich.

True Size of Pak's Economy:

It is quite difficult to determine the true size of Pak economy without validated data. However, about 60% to 70% Pak's economy is black within Pak borders. However, when we take into consideration the money that went off shore the picture changes.

The billions of dollars that got laundered got invested. That money is not sitting idle. Money when it sits idle loses its value. Be it BD garments industry, realestate in ME, Europe, North America or South... all has increased in value... e.g. NS sons are into property business or some others own hotels directly or through frontmen.

The point being that all these assets and business are the property of Paks and indirectly part of Pak economy. Let us just forget narcobusiness exports and networks.

Can then someone calculate the true size of Pak's Economy?

Compromised National Sovereignty:
From Friends not Masters to Condi Rice installed PPP and then PMLN governments the decline has been steep.

Yes, the nuklier bumb. We know. But that is only useful for survival.

National Life is far more than just nuklier bumb. And of course ZAB gave it to the Nation... oh no.. it was NS who exploded the bumb with his own hands..NS the Supreme Leader wouldn't even sign the damn order... some leaders these parasites... (Do you know how many died because of radioactive poisoning? And these parasite don't tire of claiming credit)

PM/COAS of a nation of 220 million, with 65+% youth, has to go hat in hand to friends to save the country from default is not an act of a Sovereign Regional Power.

This state of being didn't happen overnight. It is a gradual process, seeds of which were laid by ZAB... furthered by Zia's renting out the State... plunder of 90's... Mushy's installing of agents of Masters of the Universe, influx of NGOs... 10 years of dimmocracy with historic Economic Terrorism combined with Hybridwar and daily bomblasts. $250+Bln loss to economy and 70+k Paks dead. That is 70+k families.

The infilteration of religious outfits by foreign powers that started in Zia time for purely secterian death orgy has now become a darkweb of hostile agencies... in otherwords, a clear and present danger.

There are more dollars/foreign currency in private hands within Pak borders than the package Pak needs from IMF with historically harsh conditions. IMF loans are political. Never economic.

And the State is so weak that it cann't even take a Sovereing Decision to sieze all foreign currency and give the holders PKR at fairvalue even. Gettting looted wealth back to Pak is tedious and time consuming why cann't SBP and FIA just sieze dollars?

Comprehensive National Strength:
What is Pak's comprehensive national strength?
It is the sum of performance of state instituitions, quality and magnitude of education of the populace, net output of science and technology, stability of internal and external environment and economic/financial stability.

Apart from a few national security instituitions all other factors have been compromised. Or rather down right useless.. When NS /Zardari regimes could use IB to spy on the army and ISI then we know what could be the relative CNS of Pak State.

Pak State/Govs have consistently failed to formulate any policy to advance Human Condition in Pak.

18th Amendement was the final nail....it created defacto four countries where centre is there to beg friends and IMF/WB and provinces are there to money launder and plunder.

Educated Slave Drivers:
The British ruled the world and the subcontinent through a combination of pomp, bluf, disdain and local bureaucracy... they created with great success coconuts. How else a few thousands could rule over 100s of millions in the subcontinent?

The same attitude of ruling the locals has been the fate of Pak and Paks. The Pak bureaucracy as intituition has this superiority complex towards the populace. From the induction through this stupid entrance exampe this attitude is ingrained.... making them see themselves as Ubermens.

Had the bureaucracy not been part of #CriminalEnterprise organised corruption could never have happened in Pak. How else could these bureaucrats end up billionaires with their children and wives having foreign nationalities?

Without any specialised knowledge armed with a bloody exame they passed they get to continue the system. Whats more is the work of these glorified clerks other than writting summaries and 'following' business rules?

How come a country on the verge of collapse has its bureaucracy having multiple cars and great mansions to live in...while the sea of subhumans keep growing?

Just have look at China and see how there are government employees and not bureaucrats? Let alone developed world where there are no private drivers for Sir, Mrs, kids and AC for dogs...

LaWhore Justice System:

Whoring became more accentuated during the rise of NS... like in the bureaucracy judicary became populated by his men. Loyal to him than the State or Consitution. Same occured in Sindh.... Zardari copied NS method with zeal...

So this process of 'relief' should not come as a surprise to anyone. Justice in this Criminal System is the privilge of the mighty. Subhumans must die without a bail.

However, this LaWhoring of judicial system has compromised the writ of the state. NAP cann't advance in the presence of compromised judiciary.

FBR a 8 Trillion PKR Racket:
FBR had the information about NS's wife's appartment but sat on it. It didn't became public. And when it did...NOTHING happened.

And estimated 6-8 Trillions are taken by the FBR every year.... where does this money go? How does this money get laundered or assets bought by the FBR officials?

Is the State so impotent that it cann't do anything about it? Is it not an issue of National Security to get to this racket and fill the national treasure so that it could be spent on the people?

Energy & IPP:
One of the biggest #EconomicTerrorism has been the trading in energy imports and IPPs. Both are part of the same mafia which has turned the State and 220million into hostage. With ever increasing Circular Debt to be paid by the population.

Of course, the State knows who is frontman of whom and how much money is stached where. ROI on these IPPs has been long earned and some more... yet still capacity payments. What else could be called Crime?

If these IPP owners and energy mafia are Pakistanis then how come the State is so weak in front of these terrorists? It is same mafia which has sabotaged the Dam buildings in Pak in cooperation with bureaucracy.

Pak is going to be one of the most hit by climate change with only a very limited water storage... if this not a Crime Agianst Humanity then what would qualify?

Go to China / Disease is profitable:
Knowledge should be the byproduct of education. But the education has become most profitable business. The State has accepted its failure and impotance by not being able to provide education and being able to regulate fees of the private educational businesses.

By the same laziness the State has withdrawn itself from its duty to proivde healthcare same as justice. It is nothing more than a paralysed observer to see how drug companies make a killing from the suffering of others and how dispossessed die outside of hospitals.


It is the responsibility of the State to:

Provide Freedom Against Hunger

Provide Freedom Against Injustice


Provide Freedom Against Ignorance

All of State's policies have to be directed towards this end. Otherwise, a State has no right to be called civilised.

What is the solution to remedy this Crime Agianst Humanity:

NAB is not going to do jack... the parliment is not going to pass a law against itself...

The current constituition of Pak has an article that guarantees Right to Life.

A petition needs to be filed in SC of Pak that Crimes Against Humanity have been committed and it needs to declare it as such. There is so much data available about number deaths, kids out of schools, sale of public assets at fire sale prices etc.

The key is legal framing of the Crime Agianst Humanity and the evidence to support it.

After the decision PK rep in the UN must file a resolution to have UN declare that Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity. There is already Anti-Corruption and MoneyLaundering Convention...

After this the no one on Earth can hide from justice... all the looted wealth and criminals can be be brought back. And in the process Pak State would have done a great service to Humanity.

Will the Pak State do such a thing?

The rabbit hole is much, much bigger. For such an unprecedented loot and thuggery of wealth to take place, Unfortunately, the only logical conclusion is that even the so called Deep state Of Pakistan was involved including some of the Top Agencies of this country were involved. It is just NOT possible for economic terrorism of such gigantic magnitude to take place without the assistance and involvement of the deep state and the agencies.
 
The rabbit hole is much, much bigger. For such an unprecedented loot and thuggery of wealth to take place, Unfortunately, the only logical conclusion is that even the so called Deep state Of Pakistan was involved including some of the Top Agencies of this country were involved. It is just NOT possible for economic terrorism of such gigantic magnitude to take place without the assistance and involvement of the deep state and the agencies.



My dear Pak,

I can not disagree with you.

And yet I strongly believe that the Pak State has seen into the Abyss and now it shall have to focus on the Perservation...no other choice.

It doesn't matter how much these Economict Terrorists have looted... can you imagine NS would be able to break a redlight in the UK... here his car can kill a child and no one to ask him...

No one is going to throw rose pattles on them outside of Pak... here everyone is a king... outside of Pak.. they are just nothing but crooks... that even a constable can arrest them or fine them... and they will have to pay the fine. This is the level of their 'leadership'.....

We can only hope, wish.... let us see what unfolds in the coming months... Without a strong State a strong Nation cann't exist.

Regards,

Mangus
 
@zulu @Reddington @Verve @Mentee @MastanKhan @Wa Muhammada @Reichsmarschall @war&peace @PakSword

Gents,

Do you agree with the thesis I presented in the article? If you do... then...

@Dubious @The Eagle my dear Paks, if you see merit in the analysis/article... kindly make it sticky.

Without critical rootcause analysis we shall never be able to find and implement sustainable solutions......

Regards,

Mangus
I agree with your analysis except that it all started when an Army General (later a self designated Field Marshal) called the most patriotic politician of that time, sister of the founder of Pakistan, a traitor and his cronies wrote her name on street dogs. This guy (who is still liked by many in Pakistan) initiated the process of destruction. It was later continued by ZAB by taking some controversial decisions, such as nationalization and quota system. These two steps, again liked by a majority of Pakistanis, forced investors and bright minds to migrate to the West.
 
Make it an sticky thread every point valid but looking for ways to implement and introduce some changes IA soon u will see some results on all front
@zulu @Reddington @Verve @Mentee @MastanKhan @Wa Muhammada @Reichsmarschall @war&peace @PakSword

Gents,

Do you agree with the thesis I presented in the article? If you do... then...

@Dubious @The Eagle my dear Paks, if you see merit in the analysis/article... kindly make it sticky.

Without critical rootcause analysis we shall never be able to find and implement sustainable solutions......

Regards,

Mangus
 
And believe me or not, corruption is so deep rooted in Pakistan that in my honest opinion, 2/3rd of Pakistanis will indulge in some form of corruption if they get a chance. I still think that it was a generous estimate otherwise the percentage is much higher.

A country where mosques are run on stolen electricity, nothing can be done. This awam only criticizes politicians but never sees itself in the mirror.

This country will continue to be run look this for many years to come, unless Allah showers His mercy overnight and people wake up honest on one nice sunny morning.
 
I agree with your analysis except that it all started when an Army General (later a self designated Field Marshal) called the most patriotic politician of that time, sister of the founder of Pakistan, a traitor and his cronies wrote her name on street dogs. This guy (who is still liked by many in Pakistan) initiated the process of destruction. It was later continued by ZAB by taking some controversial decisions, such as nationalization and quota system. These two steps, again liked by a majority of Pakistanis, forced investors and bright minds to migrate to the West.


My dear Pak,

I do agree with you... but it was the same #CriminalEnterprise which stopped Jinnah's pointman to inact the land and educaiton reforms... the roots are deep.

Just blaming the frontman won't solve the problem... the rootcause is the coconuts and their thinking....

My thesis is that Pak has lost the Purpose it was created... until Pak returns to that Purpose all the mess would keep growing...

Pak still is the Promised Land.

Regards,

Mangus
 
My dear Pak,

I do agree with you... but it was the same #CriminalEnterprise which stopped Jinnah's pointman to inact the land and educaiton reforms... the roots are deep.

Just blaming the frontman won't solve the problem... the rootcause is the coconuts and their thinking....

My thesis is that Pak has lost the Purpose it was created... until Pak returns to that Purpose all the mess would keep growing...

Pak still is the Promised Land.

Regards,

Mangus
That's right but in my opinion, it's now too late. Only Allah can save us from the destruction.

And to be honest, I have stopped believing on this term "promised land". A corrupt country can't be a promised land.
 
That's right but in my opinion, it's now too late. Only Allah can save us from the destruction.

And to be honest, I have stopped believing on this term "promised land". A corrupt country can't be a promised land.


My brother, you know losing Hope is not allowed. Yes, we all feel the pain and grieve.... but we can NEVER loose Hope.

Not allowed!

Chin up, shoulders straight, back upright... it is just a cycle of fall... we have hit the bottom... everyone is responsible for this...

We just need to Rise and Become...

Mangus
 
My brother, you know losing Hope is not allowed. Yes, we all feel the pain and grieve.... but we can NEVER loose Hope.

Not allowed!

Chin up, shoulders straight, back upright... it is just a cycle of fall... we have hit the bottom... everyone is responsible for this...

We just need to Rise and Become...

Mangus
I am not losing hope on Allah, but I have already lost hope on Pakistan. It's extremely difficult if not impossible to change the mindset of the whole nation.
 
State can only if it has the BALLS of steel. It would require a intervention by the establishment. Send the courts and corrupt bureaucracy packing...change the system and initiate new state organs from the scratch like the judiciary and bureaucracy.

Why Are we so sure that the establishment is pure and free of any blemish ?
 
The rabbit hole is much, much bigger. For such an unprecedented loot and thuggery of wealth to take place, Unfortunately, the only logical conclusion is that even the so called Deep state Of Pakistan was involved including some of the Top Agencies of this country were involved. It is just NOT possible for economic terrorism of such gigantic magnitude to take place without the assistance and involvement of the deep state and the agencies.
sir app toh like minded gaddar niklay! ban this traitors mod he is speaking the truth
 

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