Pakistan's Special Operations Forces: SSG | SSGN | SSW | SOW | SOG

[DESERT FIGHTER]

whats the rifle/smg at 2:11. It looks like it has a 5.56 m4 magazine but it looks like a smg

Sig PDW.

 

[Sameer25]

Sig PDW.

Did u mean the SIG MPX? and r u sure. The Magazine Is a STANAG 5.56 Mag which is not a MPX caliber. looks to mean like a super shortened M4

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Did u mean the SIG MPX? and r u sure. The Magazine Is a STANAG 5.56 Mag which is not a MPX caliber. looks to mean like a super shortened M4

SIG 516 PDW.

 

[blain2]

There is too much focus on shiny kit, weapons and military equipment nowadays on this forum and elsewhere. Intangibles are used for comparisons leaving aside so many more specific things that matter. I think the media in general is guilty of that and then people who participate in forums such as this fall prey to the same. The real measure is the calibre of the training and the mettle of the men who go through it. No war has been won because one side fielded SIG516s and the other had old AK47s.

 

[Mrc]

There is too much focus on shiny kit, weapons and military equipment nowadays on this forum and elsewhere. Intangibles are used for comparisons leaving aside so many more specific things that matter. I think the media in general is guilty of that and then people who participate in forums such as this fall prey to the same. The real measure is the calibre of the training and the mettle of the men who go through it. No war has been won because one side fielded SIG516s and the other had old AK47s.

prime example of poorly trained army is Iraqi army when attacked in mosul by ISIS riding pickup trucks, 20 000 of them abandoned hundreds of Humvees and M1 Abrahams tanks and got slaughtered trying to flee....

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

 

[Slides]

There is too much focus on shiny kit, weapons and military equipment nowadays on this forum and elsewhere. Intangibles are used for comparisons leaving aside so many more specific things that matter. I think the media in general is guilty of that and then people who participate in forums such as this fall prey to the same. The real measure is the calibre of the training and the mettle of the men who go through it. No war has been won because one side fielded SIG516s and the other had old AK47s.

Not to mention force multipliers like ISR assets, both air and land. That is what gives Western spec ops their edge. Their slightly better guns or gear is not what's their main advantage. Plus ability to spend more money on better training of course. Focus should be on force multipliers and training. Gear shouldn't be 90% of the conversation.

 

[blain2]

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One very common mistake that Pakistanis make quite often (including members of the Services as well) is the use of the term "Services" when talking about the SSG. The actual acronym stands for Special "Service" Group. That was the name designated for 19 Baloch upon the establishment of the SSG and the raising of its initial battalion by the Army. The idea is that it is a special force similar to Special Air "Service". There is no plural as in "Services".

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Thanks for the insight

One very common mistake that Pakistanis make quite often (including members of the Services as well) is the use of the term "Services" when talking about the SSG. The actual acronym stands for Special "Service" Group. That was the name designated for 19 Baloch upon the establishment of the SSG and the raising of its initial battalion by the Army. The idea is that it is a special force similar to Special Air "Service". There is no plural as in "Services".

 

[F-7]

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Damn SSG looking good in russian kit.

 

[django]

Damn SSG looking good in russian kit.

@Path-Finder Hazrat @Zarvan The SSG operator seemed to appreciate the AK-103

 

[Path-Finder]

@Path-Finder Hazrat @Zarvan The SSG operator seemed to appreciate the AK-103

But AK 103 is already in service with SSG

 

[Zarvan]

But AK 103 is already in service with SSG

No it's not

 

[Path-Finder]

No it's not

hmm @DESERT FIGHTER