Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Vapnope]

if you use the older batch of 90s as in use with Armed forces than those are very good and accurate, good as range fooder, gives no FTF or FTE, but as you come towards 2008-2011 batch that was available commercially than that is really bad one, because machines were outdated & old, this batch had a lot of complains related to jamming, i used around 200 of these at the range, poor accuracy & too much fouling with continuous stoppage ----
than came 2012 MK17 batch this one was really good though a heavier round , a little more recoil ----
the current batch 2013 that i still got 200 pack left is a good one, nice recoil & no stoppage ---

Exactly recently their standard has come down.
Also what about 2012MK17? Did they increase the grain size?

 

[Zarvan]

that CZ horus said was DMR is not DMR but standard barrel length rifle -----
anyhow on personal level i see the game falling in the hands of CZ no matter how much they cheated (as said)

Sir according to @Horus CZ blasted during trials and it was also less accurate than AK-103 but AK guys are not ready to give TOT.

 

[Path-Finder]

Sir according to CZ blasted during trials and it was also less accurate than AK-103 but AK guys are not ready to give TOT.

Oh dear Hazrat, he is favoring a blasted rifle. . You should tell balixd SCAR was the best rifle in Trials

 

[El Fuego]

Well if you go throughout that list of failures provided by Horus. One should not miss this point:
"SCAR passed these number of rounds without any jam and hence cooked off 2 times" and than again once or twice..

cook off means exactly - uncontrolled explosion of rifle or at least uncontrolled self ignition of round inside the chamber resulting in weapon which is firing itself.

 

[Kompromat]

This is a blatant violation of the privacy agreement, Army is deeply pissed off with this 'leak' and it might cost CZ a great deal.

LEAKED: Pakistan Army Requirements for Tender of 75,000 New 7.62x39mm Rifles

by Nathaniel F
2017-05-16

The CZ Bren 2 in 7.62x39mm - shown here - is a strong contender for the Pakistani rifle contract.

Thanks to a recent leak exclusively to The Firearm Blog, we have now become aware of a new tender for rifles issued by the Pakistani government. According to the tender document, the Pakistani Army is looking for 75,000 “modern 7.62x39mm caliber weapons”, presumably as part of the program to replace their aging fleet of G3 and Type 56 assault rifles. The specifications for the tender are given below:

The document that we have is not actually a raw tender, rather it is a manufacturer’s reply to a tender. As such, the document is divided into two parts. On the left of every sheet are the requirements as disseminated by the Pakistani government. On the right are the characteristics of the rifle from the company that is being solicited, according to its manufacturer. Essentially, on the left we have the solicitation, and on the right the reply.

Based on the characteristics of the rifle as listed on the right side of the document, it seems we are looking at either Česká Zbrojovka’s (CZ) or Beretta’s submission, with me leaning towards the former. We know that at least five companies are courting this Pakistani contract: FN, Kalashnikov Concern, CZ, Beretta, and Zastava. We can eliminate FN, as they have so far only offered the SCAR-H in 7.62x51mm. Zastava’s and Kalashnikov Concern’s offerings (the M21 and AK-103) do not meet the overall length criteria given by the manufacturer on page 1. That leaves Beretta and CZ as possibles. However, up till now Beretta has only offered their 7.62x51mm ARX-200, not their 7.62x39mm ARX-160A3, and it is also not obvious that Beretta offers a magazine with round counter for the latter rifle. This leaves CZ with their 7.62x39mm 806 Bren 2 as the most likely company for the rifle on the right.

LEAKED: Pakistan Army Requirements for Tender of 75,000 New 7.62x39mm Rifles | thefirearmblog.com

 

[Zarvan]

This is a blatant violation of the privacy agreement, Army is deeply pissed off with this 'leak' and it might cost CZ a great deal.

You said CZ is out

 

[Kompromat]

They are banking on x39. Without any viable competition, Army is not expected to choose CZ just because no competition is available as of yet.

You said CZ is out

 

[Path-Finder]

This is a blatant violation of the privacy agreement, Army is deeply pissed off with this 'leak' and it might cost CZ a great deal.

That has to mean that SCAR in x39 is coming

You said CZ is out

oh Dear Hazrat!

They are banking on x39. Without any viable competition, Army is not expected to choose CZ just because no competition is available as of yet.

considering in a country where dawn leaks happens Army will be pissed of with CZ leak! hmmm NO

 

[Zarvan]

That has to mean that SCAR in x39 is coming

oh Dear Hazrat!

SCAR x 39 if comes will have to pass tests so it would take time

 

[Path-Finder]

SCAR x 39 if comes will have to pass tests so it would take time

No Hazrat it has passed!

 

[Zarvan]

That has to mean that SCAR in x39 is coming

oh Dear Hazrat!

considering in a country where dawn leaks happens Army will be pissed of with CZ leak! hmmm NO

Please first understand DAWN Leaks issue people have no idea about the whole issue and still like to talk the decision which came was the only thing which could have happened. If some people were thinking Mariam would be hanged than they are wrong.

No Hazrat it has passed!

SCAR X 51 passed trials the x 39 hasn't even arrived yet

 

[Path-Finder]

Please first understand DAWN Leaks issue people have no idea about the whole issue and still like to talk the decision which came was the only thing which could have happened. If some people were thinking Mariam would be hanged than they are wrong.


SCAR X 51 passed trials the x 39 hasn't even arrived yet

Oh please Hazrat, don't tell us what dawn leaks were and were not! Everyone knows what they are. As for the SCAR Hazrat it has passed for you? isn't it? Or you are trying to humbling now?

 

[Zarvan]

Oh please Hazrat, don't tell us what dawn leaks were and were not! Everyone knows what they are. As for the SCAR Hazrat it has passed for you? isn't it? Or you are trying to humbling now?

Sorry most have no idea but want to comment they result which came was the thing which would have happened nothing else would have happened. If people had wrong expectations it's there problem not Army.

 

[Kompromat]

SCAR x39 is just a prototype.

That has to mean that SCAR in x39 is coming

oh Dear Hazrat!

considering in a country where dawn leaks happens Army will be pissed of with CZ leak! hmmm NO

 

[Zarvan]

SCAR x39 is just a prototype.

By the way the optics which will come with Rifle will it be produced by POF or which other company will produce them in Pakistan ?