Pakistan’s Secret Guest: Why Neighbors Doubt Terrorism Fight

[The Great One]

Give us the masterminds of Samjhota terrorist attack and we will think about it.

Samjhauta express got taken care of here. Pls read all the posts.
Outrage over Lakhvi but not Swami Aseemanand?

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Its a cheap way to pass a message that look u hve our terrorist..u having those attack cuz of we keeping ur terrorist..
Who really give fly f#$& what really india.think I
India cant do nothing but request if Pakistan have him then we will trial him in our land.
I think indian army man probujeet who was working in army at the time of samjotha sud be handed over Pakistan he was directly involve in killing innocent pakistanies in india.

 

[macnurv]

By Tom Lasseter Dec 25, 2014

Source: AP India's most wanted man, Dawood Ibrahim, poses for photos in this undated photo at an unknown location.​

When last seen in public some 25 years ago, Dawood Ibrahim was a chubby man with oversized sunglasses and a droopy mustache. His fondness for betting on cricket matches and keeping company with Indian movie stars has attracted police investigations and tabloid headlines.

Ibrahim is also one of India’s most-wanted terrorists. He’s linked to bombings that killed hundreds of innocent men and women in his native country. India and the U.S. accuse him of financing Pakistani militants who killed hundreds more, as well as brokering a deal with al-Qaeda to allow the group access to his smuggling routes.

And all available evidence culled from accounts on the ground in India and Pakistan, buttressed by reports from the U.S. and United Nations, point to one conclusion: Ibrahim is living in Pakistan.

Just as Osama bin Laden’s death at a house down the road from the Pakistan Military Academy set off fierce debate about the nation’s commitment to fighting terrorism, Ibrahim has become a symbol of why Pakistan’s neighbors often don’t take its public statements about uprooting militants seriously.

The cost of that reluctance was underlined in blood last week when Pakistani Taliban militants murdered 152 people, including 134 children, in the nation’s northwest city of Peshawar. In the aftermath of that slaughter, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif vowed to wipe out every last terrorist from Pakistani soil.

Photographer: Asim Hafeez/Bloomberg
A traffic police officer stands and directs traffic through the streets of Karachi, Pakistan.​

There are no indications that Ibrahim, thought by police to be 58 years old, had anything to do with the carnage in Peshawar. In fact, officials in Islamabad insist, as they did with bin Laden, that he isn’t in their country at all.

‘No Information’

“Pakistan has no information about his whereabouts,” Tasnim Aslam Khan, a foreign ministry spokeswoman in the capital, said by phone on Dec. 20. Switching between Urdu and the lightly-accented, crisp English of her country’s elite, she continued: “He’s an Indian national. Sometimes we hear he’s in Bangkok, and sometimes elsewhere.” Maj. General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman for Pakistan’s military, didn’t respond to text messages or an e-mail seeking comment.

Ibrahim’s story personifies the violent and, often, shadowy nature of relations between India and Pakistan, which together hold about a fifth of the world’s people. The two nations were cleaved from one another by physical partition when British colonial rule ended in 1947, leaving hundreds of thousands dead just eight years before Ibrahim’s birth. The region now contains a tempest of corrupt officials, religious zealots and competing business interests that can be unpredictable -- men who pull triggers for you today can turn their guns back on you tomorrow.

Photographer: Dhiraj Singh/Bloomberg
Pedestrians cross a road in the Dharavi slum area of Mumbai, India.​

Simply ‘Dawood’

The son of a Mumbai police constable, Ibrahim worked his way up from smalltime street thug to the city’s most powerful gang leader. Police in Mumbai say that he ran a protection and smuggling racket before moving to Dubai in the 1980s. He is known to readers of Indian newspapers simply as “Dawood,” a main inspiration for the Mafioso archetype in Bollywood films.

A former aide of Ibrahim, wearing a fat diamond and ruby ring on his finger, said his old boss had a taste for expensive cigarettes, nice cars and Italian suits. These days, he said, Ibrahim can’t travel as far as he used to.

Photographs of Ibrahim, whose full name is Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar, are easily accessible on the Internet. Despite facing criminal charges from India, standing accused by the U.S. and the UN of terrorist activities, and being listed by Interpol, Ibrahim remains free -- and thought to be not far from his hometown.

Karachi Homes

The alleged mass murderer has long done business in Karachi, a Pakistani megacity that like Mumbai sits on the Arabian Sea. The twin metropolises are some 540 miles from one another on the same coastline, roughly the distance of a quick flight from New York to Charlotte, North Carolina. Ibrahim’s presence there, complete with stories of large homes and lavish parties, was confirmed byBloomberg News in conversations this year with a half dozen past associates and witnesses in Karachi and Mumbai, as well as Indian officials. Many asked not to be identified due to fears about their personal safety.

For Indians, the suggestion that they’re still in touch with a man seen by law enforcement as something of a Judas figure -- the son of a cop who betrayed his own country -- could bring trouble. The same is true in Pakistan, where confirming his presence contradicts the official line and might cause an unwelcome visit from intelligence agencies. And then there’s always the risk of offending the man himself.

U.S. Sanctions

As India and the U.S. made political overtures this past year to mend a relationship that had drifted, part of the rapprochement included renewed efforts to squeeze Ibrahim.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and U.S. President Barack Obama, the leaders of the world’s two largest democracies, issued a statement after a September summit in Washington, D.C. that listed Ibrahim’s organization, known as D Company, among those for which they would seek to jointly “disrupt all financial and tactical support.”

D Company was named a “significant foreign narcotics trafficker” in 2006 under a U.S. anti-narcotics kingpin law. A 2010 Congressional Research Service report said that D Company’s business model includes smuggling humans and money, and selling drugs -- pointing to it as “an example of the criminal-terrorism ‘fusion’ model.”

Indian officials accuse Ibrahim of helping mastermind a dozen bombings and grenade attacks that ripped through Mumbai in March 1993, killing 257 people and wounding 713 in one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in the nation’s history.

Pakistani Passports

After that onslaught, according to U.S. Treasury and UN reports, Ibrahim doled out cash to Lashkar-e-Taiba. The outlawed militant organization is based in Pakistan and opposes India’s presence in Kashmir, a region divided between India and Pakistan and claimed by both. A senior Lashkar-e-Taiba member used money from Ibrahim to “facilitate the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai,” the UN said in a 2009 report. Those seven blasts left 187 dead and 829 injured. The group also stands accused of carrying out a 2008 commando-style assault on Mumbai that killed 174 people.

The U.S. Treasury has published passport numbers for Ibrahim, including two issued by Pakistan’s government. The U.S. and UN listed addresses in Pakistan that correspond to a series of villas in Karachi and Islamabad obscured by high walls. A street near one was blocked by guards earlier this year. Two trucks of gunmen sat close to another. Business cards left on outer gates didn’t result in calls back.

Policeman’s Son

Retired Lt. General Hamid Gul, who headed Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency for a period in the 1980s and said that he became “very popular with the jihadis,” claimed Ibrahim was “probably not involved” in the 1993 Mumbai bombings. He said there was no connection between the agency, known as ISI, and Ibrahim.

As for Ibrahim’s whereabouts, Gul, dressed in a blue cardigan sweater and gray blazer, shrugged. “I don’t know about him,” he said in a February meeting in Islamabad. “They say that he’s in Karachi.”

At Ibrahim’s old south Mumbai neighborhood of Dongri, cramped restaurants sell bone marrow soup and mosques sit among shops selling Korans and bedazzled iPhone covers. One of his brothers, Iqbal Kaskar, still lives up a dim flight of stairs nearby, a location confirmed by a family lawyer. He didn’t respond to requests for comment.

As Ibrahim’s gang rose first in Muslim quarters and then across the city, it maintained cordial ties with the police, said Shamim Hava, a mining businessman involved in regional politics who grew up in the area. “Because his father was a policeman,” he said, “they always had a soft spot for him.”

Spy Agency

Shamsher Khan Pathan, a cop who worked Ibrahim’s neighborhood in the 1980s and retired as assistant commissioner of police for Mumbai in 2012, gave a different reason for why men in uniform left Ibrahim and his men alone: “Money.”

Ibrahim first established a relationship with Pakistan’s ISI spy agency while building his smuggling operations for consumer goods, then gold and finally drugs, according to Indian security officials.

ISI operates as an empire unto itself in Pakistan, beyond the control of any civilian authority. It smoothed the way for Ibrahim to make illegal shipments in the region, said Gopal K. Pillai, who helped oversee security and intelligence agencies as India’s home secretary from 2009 to 2011.

That bond grew tighter as Ibrahim spent time in Dubai, where criminals, businessmen and spies from across the region had space to mix in a murky underworld, Pillai said in a meeting in Delhi late last year.

“Everybody plays one way, two ways, three ways -- and at the end you don’t know what really is the truth,” Pillai said. “But it’s a game which everybody plays. So, he got into that.”

Mumbai Bombings

In December of 1992, a crowd of Hindu nationalists tore down a mosque in northern India. Riots followed between rampaging mobs of Hindus and Muslims that month and the next. Hundreds of people were killed in Mumbai, the majority of them Muslim. Ibrahim was watching.

“He was angry and he was frustrated and he wanted to do something,” said Rakesh Maria, Mumbai’s police commissioner, who has worked in counter-terrorism and made taking down Ibrahim a life’s ambition. “This is where these people, ISI, came into the picture.”

No one interviewed about Ibrahim described him as being a religious ideologue. They attributed his role in the 1993 bombings in varying degrees to a desire for revenge after the bloodshed in Mumbai and the ISI sensing an opportunity to exploit him to strike an old foe. Current and former Indian officials presented Ibrahim’s relationship with the ISI as one of mutual convenience: The spy agency gave safe haven for him personally as well as his broader criminal network, with Ibrahim in return offering financial backing and logistical support to ISI-backed militant groups.

Guns, Grenades

Confessions showed that those picked up after the attacks were tutored in bomb-making and “handling of sophisticated automatic weapons like AK-56 Rifles and handling of hand grenades in Pakistan,” the Supreme Court of India wrote in a 2013 judgment reviewing death sentences for men involved in the bombings. The training circuit, the court said, was “organized and methodically carried out by Dawood Ibrahim” and others.

U.S. officials have kept tabs on Ibrahim over the years, according to diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks in 2010. One document details a 2004 meeting with an anti-money laundering official in the United Arab Emirates to discuss Ibrahim; another notes allegations that same year of his links with an Islamist group in Indonesia; and a 2009 cable mentions his alleged links to drug trafficking inMozambique.

‘Global Terrorist’

When answering questions about Ibrahim, U.S. officials are cautious. The U.S. gave Pakistan about $26 billion in overt aid and military reimbursements between 2001 and 2013 even as American drones killed suspected terrorists in the country.

Although the U.S. Treasury named Ibrahim a “Specially Designated Global Terrorist” in 2003 and listed known addresses for him in Karachi, American officials never publicly demanded that Pakistan hand him over.

Asked about Ibrahim earlier this year, the U.S. embassy in Islamabad sent a statement grouping him with Hafiz Saeed, a Pakistan resident who helped create Lashkar-e-Taiba, the militant outfit that Ibrahim allegedly funded. “We encourage the Government of Pakistan to enforce the sanctions against these individuals,” said the statement. The embassy said in October it had nothing to add.

Legitimate Businessman

Last month, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh told a conference in New Delhi that Ibrahim had been moved to Pakistan’s border region with Afghanistan after increased diplomatic pressure to have him extradited.

While Ibrahim’s exact address in Pakistan isn’t known, his past wheeling-and-dealing in Karachi left a trail.

Some around the world consider Ibrahim a terrorist, but in Pakistan he’s a legitimate businessman, said a top real estate broker in Karachi, between sips of tea in the lobby of the city’s Marriott.

Ibrahim invests in residential projects and undeveloped plots of land, said the broker, who wore sunglasses indoors and added that he’s advised Ibrahim on past ventures. The money is routed through proxies and the transactions are perfectly legal, he said, adding that Ibrahim hasn’t done anything wrong in Pakistan.

In 2005, Ibrahim’s daughter married the son of famous retired Pakistani cricket player Javed Miandad. News of a ceremony held by Ibrahim’s family in Dubai was splashed across headlines in India. The patriarch apparently didn’t show up.

Seaside Wedding

Miandad’s family later held a quieter function at a hotel in Karachi with a guest list that included Imran Khan, a former captain of Pakistan’s national cricket team and now a top opposition politician.

“Believe me, I never saw Dawood Ibrahim there,” Khan said in an interview. Miandad declined to discuss Ibrahim.

As recently as 2011, Ibrahim hosted a wedding event in Karachi for his son, according to one of the city’s wealthiest businessmen, who attended. The proud father and accused terrorist greeted guests at the wedding hall, decorated by billowing white tent roofs near the Arabian Sea. The site the businessmen named isn’t far from a McDonald’s and a beach-side shopping mall in Pakistan’s financial capital.

Although Ibrahim couldn’t arrange the family event in his hometown of Mumbai, there, under the skies of Karachi, he was safe. For Pakistan’s neighbors, that’s the problem.

Pakistan’s Secret Guest: Why Neighbors Doubt Terrorism Fight - Bloomberg

What the heck is the author smoking, I am pretty sure I don't want that. It would have been a laughable attempt to link Dawood with peshawar attack, if not for the seriousness of attack. Indians need to stop demanding actions only from Pakistan, and Pakistan should stop paying any heed to what Indian government is yapping about. It is just rhetoric used by Indians as an excuse to not engage in any meaningful dialogue, excuses. India needs to reciprocate similar measures, rather it chooses rhetoric. The whole big bad wolf Dawood routine by Indians is too old to even bother about.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

What the heck is the author smoking, I am pretty sure I don't want that. It would have been a laughable attempt to link Dawood with peshawar attack, if not for the seriousness of attack. Indians need to stop demanding actions only from Pakistan, and Pakistan should stop paying any heed to what Indian government is yapping about. It is just rhetoric used by Indians as an excuse to not engage in any meaningful dialogue, excuses. India needs to reciprocate similar measures, rather it chooses rhetoric. The whole big bad wolf Dawood routine by Indians is too old to even bother about.

meaning full dialog to a country which harbour terror is not use. instead just watch the entertainment across border ........in every case

Its a cheap way to pass a message that look u hve our terrorist..u having those attack cuz of we keeping ur terrorist..
Who really give fly f#$& what really india.think I
India cant do nothing but request if Pakistan have him then we will trial him in our land.
I think indian army man probujeet who was working in army at the time of samjotha sud be handed over Pakistan he was directly involve in killing innocent pakistanies in india.

if samjhuta happened in your land then you can ask, but Dawood is indian and cried committed by him in india an oive in PAK, like OBL.

no one care what PAK think and what cry in front of world, World will go on and one say ISI found Dawood dead in next couple of year in bomb exploding.

 

[macnurv]

meaning full dialog to a country which harbour terror is not use. instead just watch the entertainment across border ........in every case


if samjhuta happened in your land then you can ask, but Dawood is indian and cried committed by him in india an oive in PAK, like OBL.

no one care what PAK think and what cry in front of world, World will go on and one say ISI found Dawood dead in next couple of year in bomb exploding.

Yes another tried and overly used excuse to not have any kind of constructive discussion.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Yes another tried and overly used excuse to not have any kind of constructive discussion.

what we can when you keep denial about anything like for an year you keep harping OBL not in pak.... what one can discuss . what once can diccuess to a country who asking anyone to proof about mumbai attack which was controlled in karachi ? most laughable thing. and most asking give us proof about AK khan , then only we can act , we don't have any poof against AK khan.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

meaning full dialog to a country which harbour terror is not use. instead just watch the entertainment across border ........in every case


if samjhuta happened in your land then you can ask, but Dawood is indian and cried committed by him in india an oive in PAK, like OBL.

no one care what PAK think and what cry in front of world, World will go on and one say ISI found Dawood dead in next couple of year in bomb exploding.

Then stop crying in front of Pakistan... OBL has nothing to with u... its was part of ur conspiracy and sadly other than taunt Pakistan india cant do nothing.
And about daud.. ur RAW can only arrange somthing like peshawar.. dawood is not in Pakistan even if he is. India has nothing to do..track down his people before u come to him ur own currpt politicians doesnt wanna do anything...

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Then stop crying in front of Pakistan... OBL has nothing to with u... its was part of ur conspiracy and sadly other than taunt Pakistan india cant do nothing.
And about daud.. ur RAW can only arrange somthing like peshawar.. dawood is not in Pakistan even if he is. India has nothing to do..track down his people before u come to him ur own currpt politicians doesnt wanna do anything...

OBL / Ak Khan is the episode shows how much you can lie and tell these things imagination before that.......

Dawood is not in PAk like OBL not in PAk and AK Khan has not done anything in PAK....... please see your history of lies....

don't worry , you will see some explosion killing Dawood....time have changed , Govt already issued order , it matter on one year.

 

[macnurv]

what we can when you keep denial about anything like for an year you keep harping OBL not in pak.... what one can discuss . what once can diccuess to a country who asking anyone to proof about mumbai attack which was controlled in karachi ? most laughable thing. and most asking give us proof about AK khan , then only we can act , we don't have any poof against AK khan.

Yes please share with us the evidence of Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai attacks, all you guys did switched rhetoric in high gear, breaking news rhetoric does not suffice for evidence. For all the high and mighty claims coming from India very little to no evidence was provided. Pakistani investigators were never allowed to question Kasab, not to mention his accent was no where near Pakistan. Get over yourself.

 

[TankMan]

You should the way how Democracy works , your knowledge of Democracy is wrong

God damn it, can't you read? I am telling you that India's Democracy is not flawless, which is the truth. Get out of these delusions, India is in no way on par with Western democracy and is in no position to be lecturing people and showing off like that.

democracy Majority of people is happy & minority is Unhappy

So its the same in Pakistan then, Taliban/Baloch separatists are a really, really small minority, same as the Bodos and Maoists.

Dictatorship (PAK) minority of people is happy and majority is unhappy.

Pakistan has been a democracy for the past seven years. I see you've been living in the past for a while now (Indian media tends to do that), welcome to 2014.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

God damn it, can't you read? I am telling you that India's Democracy is not flawless, which is the truth. Get out of these delusions, India is in no way on par with Western democracy and is in no position to be lecturing people and showing off like that.

So its the same in Pakistan then, Taliban/Baloch separatists are a really, really small minority, same as the Bodos and Maoists.

Pakistan has been a democracy for the past seven years. I see you've been living in the past for a while now (Indian media tends to do that), welcome to 2014.

Oh really, past 7 years where Army control every major policy of the govt? Where was democracy gone when Army made Coup ?

Punjabis are rich and and what about baloch? is their any development in baloch at par of punjab? where baloch give your all the mineral resource but their is no development , thats why they want different country..

Yes please share with us the evidence of Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai attacks, all you guys did switched rhetoric in high gear, breaking news rhetoric does not suffice for evidence. For all the high and mighty claims coming from India very little to no evidence was provided. Pakistani investigators were never allowed to question Kasab, not to mention his accent was no where near Pakistan. Get over yourself.

The problem is with your people is , you want evidence that OBL is in PAK, and you want evidence that AK khan is doing something , are you bunch of fools? who can't see / know what happened in your own country? you want other country sitting outside provide you proof whole you who RUNS the country don't have anything?

PAK investigators did see Kasab and its testimony where he clearly identify the both of them, moreover their is video recording of that, Thats why PAK is not providing official Voice Samples , so that Voice samples match with Intercepts and nail the PAK govt lies.

even UN / US knows where dawood is? they are biggest fool who know your country then yourself. its better when you don't know about your own , the your country run and Govern by West , they give you enough poof, which are can't find.

 

[TankMan]

Oh really, past 7 years where Army control every major policy of the govt?

Baseless allegation.

Where was democracy gone when Army made Coup ?

The last coup was in 1999. It is 2014.

Punjabis are rich and and what about baloch? is their any development in baloch at par of punjab? where baloch give your all the mineral resource but their is no development , thats why they want different country..

The Baloch are less developed because of the incompetence of their politicians and the general remoteness of the province. Also, according to most surveys and contrary to Indian wet dreams, only a small minority of Balochis want their own country.

 

[@nline]

Any valid reason to post this amount of crap and fabricated lies.

24 hours a day
7 days a week
365 days a year just propaganda against Pakistan by Indians

 

[TankMan]

24 hours a day
7 days a week
365 days a year just propaganda against Pakistan by Indians

They can't sleep at night without it

 

[waleed3601]

I hope our army generals stop our use of "Assets" and focus more on how Pakistan can become a better economy if we stop our strategic depth plan and stop funding/hiding/training terrorists and mobsters.
This would not only lead to a natural reduction in crime rate but better law and order would = more FDI = more $$$ which would directly benefit the Army too in form of more resources. This is what India has done and this is why they're better off than us and a more powerful regional player.
But then again, if what the business man says is true and that Dawood hasn't done anything illegal in Pakistan, the only chance of him being handed over to India is if they ask us (and I hope someone knocks some sense into our power hungry top intel leadership to improve diplomacy with India).
As considering what he's done, I'm all for handing over Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed to India, as long as they agree to stop funding the Baloch insurgency (fair trade IMO).