Pakistan's! Our Freedom Day is Coming!

[syedali73]

U mean PML-N, TuQ and PTI all are same working to destabilize Pakistan? Because from where I see, NS announce so many times for dialogues it's PTI who is rejecting everything.

Government Actions-----------------------------------------------------------PTI Response
Election Tribune resort 70% of the Application Submitted by PTI----They are not Clearing up 4 Halqa Situation
Election Reform Committee lead by PTI Chairman-----------------------Rejected
Full Audit accepted by Government-------------------------------------------Rejected
Have a Dialogues on 14 March-------------------------------------------------Rejected

So any Independent observer it's PTI main character, while PML-N May be knows the scripts so Following same.

PML(N) has taken way too long to defuse the situation. It would have not reached to this point if:

1. Election tribunal had resolved the issue of 4 highly disputed constituencies.
2. Nawaz had put Khawaja Saad, Khawaja Asif, Rana Sana, Rana Mashhood, Nisar, and Ishaque on leash.

Even today, if the above two issues are resolved, Imran would remain with nothing to sell to the public.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

U mean PML-N, TuQ and PTI all are same working to destabilize Pakistan? Because from where I see, NS announce so many times for dialogues it's PTI who is rejecting everything.
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PMLN doesn't believe on Table talk with the opponents nor its language is democratic and people says this is well experienced party . Look the language of Law minister and others...Law minister doesn't talk like that.
This government doesn't believe on table Talk with the opponents but brings Non state actor like arsalan iftikhar to eliminate opponent politics, and uses Gullu butts + Punjab police as political wing as shown in media many times.

 

[Viper0011.]

Thanks, to IK and TUQ, our Media not have enough time, to telecast any Programe related to Freedom Day

Are you 10 or are you nuts? Forcing "freedom" for a few hundred thousand and destabilizing a running system for 200 million people and getting people killed in violence is FREEDOM to you? That's violence, terrorism and entire lack of respect for the entire population. These idiots like IK and Mulaha Canada will sit behind AC and bullet proof cars while they'll see innocents getting killed and a running system getting destroyed for their power hunger. You should be shameful to use the terms "Freedom", you don't know what it means. It comes from SACRIFICE not VIOLENCE and THREATS! WTH is wrong with you people?

 

[Pakistani till death]

It is not his agenda that perturbs me, rather, I also believe that his views on state building are universally acceptable, it is the method that he is adopting that concerns me. Urging a take down of a government in power and calling to street power to achieve that end will not lay the foundation of a very strong government for the future.
As for Egypt, that is not where I was coming from but it's still a relevant example because that is basically what happens when you show the people that they can dismiss government through civil disobedience, you get a line of departing governments, a lot of instability and eventually a military intervention. Egypt is not the only country that has traveled down this lane, Afghanistan, early South Korea and Somalia also went down the same path. In ROK's case, military could restore order but as you can see, odds weren't in the favour of the other two nations who were prosperous at the time but eventually were reduced to ruin.

To enforce tahirs agenda a takeover is necessary because with this system this cant take place eg he wants to desolution of power and wants 35 provinces that cant happen now because we have ethnic parties and he wants karachi to be a province that cant happen with altaf as the head of mqm then in this system you need to form a coalition so you cant make all the decisions however if we adopt the french democracy in pakistan then it could. This system has been corrupted to its roots and needs to be changed. Our constitution has been changed for the benefits of the rulers etc

 

[Danish saleem]

PMLN doesn't believe on Table talk with the opponents nor its language is democratic and people says this is well experienced party . Look the language of Law minister and others...Law minister don't talk like that.
They don't believe on table Talk with the opponents but brings Non state actor like arsalan iftikhar to eliminate opponent politics, and Gullu butt s, while Punjab police as political wing as shown in media many times.

Brother,

PTI always supports table talk with Taliban, but not wanted to talk with government.
Brother, IK still not denied the meetings with shujha pasha!
IK agenda to remove NS or SS, otherwise, every thing is fine in sindh , balchistan, and KPK,
Problem is in punjab only.

Thanks IK for openning our eyes, and got idea, about the Hidden agenda of IK.
tomorrow NS resigns, suddenly new pakistan emerged, good goind man.

 

[Viper0011.]

PMLN doesn't believe on Table talk with the opponents nor its language is democratic and people says this is well experienced party .

I even sitting here see on the Western media that they have asked your emotional IK to come talk and he doesn't want to. As he's too busy threatening the government. Forceful politics and threats of violence isn't politics, its treason and he should be put in jail for disturbing the peace.
Many of you guys live in the UK, US and Canada, trying threatening the local government with such violent protests, I'd love to see where you end up 24 hours after issuing your first call to violence. Its sad to see people living in the West, enjoying a democratic system forcing violence on their poor people in a country that they left.

 

[syedali73]

PMLN doesn't believe on Table talk with the opponents nor its language is democratic and people says this is well experienced party . Look the language of Law minister and others...Law minister don't talk like that.
They don't believe on table Talk with the opponents but brings Non state actor like arsalan iftikhar to eliminate opponent politics, and Gullu butt s, while Punjab police as political wing as shown in media many times.

Well, did you forget the language of Babar Awan 'notice milya, kakh nea hilya' ? It was as disgusting as is of Rana Mashhood or Khawaja Saad, Khawaja Asif, Rana Sana, Nisar, and Ishaque for that matter. This is the language of our 'badmaashia', and to be honest with you, Imran and his people are as much well-versed in this kind of language.

 

[Danish saleem]

Are you 10 or are you nuts? Forcing "freedom" for a few hundred thousand and destabilizing a running system for 200 million people and getting people killed in violence is FREEDOM to you? That's violence, terrorism and entire lack of respect for the entire population. These idiots like IK and Mulaha Canada will sit behind AC and bullet proof cars while they'll see innocents getting killed and a running system getting destroyed for their power hunger. You should be shameful to use the terms "Freedom", you don't know what it means. It comes from SACRIFICE not VIOLENCE and THREATS! WTH is wrong with you people?

Tuq and revolutionery leader hahahahah

 

[Viper0011.]

Tuq and revolutionery leader hahahahah

Treason is when you threaten your nations safety, security and interests and try to bring down the current system. Both IK and Mullah Idiot have done that. They should be tried for Treason in the court.

 

[Icarus]

To enforce tahirs agenda a takeover is necessary because with this system this cant take place eg he wants to desolution of power and wants 35 provinces that cant happen now because we have ethnic parties and he wants karachi to be a province that cant happen with altaf as the head of mqm then in this system you need to form a coalition so you cant make all the decisions however if we adopt the french democracy in pakistan then it could. This system has been corrupted to its roots and needs to be changed. Our constitution has been changed for the benefits of the rulers etc

I agree with all that being is being said but the problem remains that these goals can only be implemented for a short term through a revolution because by setting such a precedent, you will encourage copy cat events and then every Tom, Dick and Harry will have their own revolutions. Do you remember ever having heard of a long march before the lawyer's movement? Now everyone who has a grievance with the government has their own dedh eenth ki masjid and are leading their own long march.
This is a nation where positive politics has never existed and a revolution will just serve to further exacerbate an already terrible situation.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Brother,

PTI always supports table talk with Taliban, but not wanted to talk with government.
Brother, IK still not denied the meetings with shujha pasha!
IK agenda to remove NS or SS, otherwise, every thing is fine in sindh , balchistan, and KPK,
Problem is in punjab only.

Thanks IK for openning our eyes, and got idea, about the Hidden agenda of IK.
tomorrow NS resigns, suddenly new pakistan emerged, good goind man.

PTI supported table talk from 1 year, even no strict opposition but Government was never serious. Nobody will support Punjab police operation that started from 2am in model town... There was no TUQ here. Its government that is establishing Pakistan.
Yes NS resigns, then electron reform, free and fair election with new system as in western counties, New Pakistan will arise. "Democratic Pakistan" Inshallah.
B/w I also criticizes PTI, and stance about Taliban issue, same way i criticized PMLN love for Taliban and banned militant organisations. PMLN have no right to stop people attending shuhadah event. They just want to eliminate opponents due to political differences.

This is the language of our 'badmaashia', and to be honest with you, Imran and his people are as much well-versed in this kind of language.

I don't support aggressive language, MQM, PTI or any other... But PMLN is way ahead and people called them as well experienced team.

 

[syedali73]

This is a nation where positive politics has never existed and a revolution will just serve to further exacerbate an already terrible situation.

It depends who was in-charge of that revolution. If it were people like TAQ and/or Imran, than yes, it will only worsen the situation BUT if it were some determined yet ruthless statesman such as de Gaulle, then there is hope. Pakistani 'badmaashia' has to go, the question however remains who will send them and when.

 

[dravidianhero]

For an outsider like me,can u people tell how serious the situation in pak is.Are people boiling with anger?does this protest have the potential to create pandemonium in the country?one more thing I am unable to comprehend is how nawaz Sharif who was in the opposition could rig or manipulate the elections?Isn't that something a ruling party does?

 

[syedali73]

For an outsider like me,can u people tell how serious the situation in pak is

It depends who you are asking to. For me, it is serious.

Are people boiling with anger?

Unfortunately no. Pakistani people appear to have a very high threshold of withstanding insult and sufferings in the hands of their rulers.

does this protest have the potential to create pandemonium in the country?

Highly unlikely.

one more thing I am unable to comprehend is how nawaz Sharif who was in the opposition could rig or manipulate the elections?Isn't that something a ruling party does?

PPP and PML(N) have an unholy alliance of taking turn to rule (rob) Pakistan. Both help each other to take the turn, and complete their terms unless one idiot is determined to shoot himself in the foot (like Nawaz did last time).

 

[Fracker]

PML(N) has taken way too long to defuse the situation. It would have not reached to this point if:

1. Election tribunal had resolved the issue of 4 highly disputed constituencies.
2. Nawaz had put Khawaja Saad, Khawaja Asif, Rana Sana, Rana Mashhood, Nisar, and Ishaque on leash.

Even today, if the above two issues are resolved, Imran would remain with nothing to sell to the public.

You mean go against process? Why so? Since IK said so? Dear those 4 Halqas were in Court, not with Election Tribunal.

Problem is you think IK is God or something, what ever he says should be accepted whether it's against Law, with law. And you can't accept all steps which were much superior then 4 halqa but do want to detail the democracy since IK has to stand in front of those 1 person who beat IK in election. Please your morality finished when you pointed out small steps while ignoring major steps by the government.

PMLN doesn't believe on Table talk with the opponents nor its language is democratic and people says this is well experienced party . Look the language of Law minister and others...Law minister doesn't talk like that.
This government doesn't believe on table Talk with the opponents but brings Non state actor like arsalan iftikhar to eliminate opponent politics, and uses Gullu butts + Punjab police as political wing as shown in media many times.

No body bring Arsalan Iftikhar, it's IK who bring Arsalan Iftikhar, gullu butt was PML-N worker, but PML-N disowned any of his steps and also given him to the Police. Police try to maintain Law and order and yet since it's accompany your leaders agenda you are siding with anti-law forces.
ohh please I posted some major steps by Government based on IK, and you are coming up with this excuse. Bhai please leave me, I can't discuss on that low.