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Pakistan's Onslaught Against India at UNGA - What's Next?

If Kashmiris put up a strong resistance, it will be very easy for Pakistan to support them. But if they don't, I think that's game over.. without a proxy war, it is more or less over.

for me its like a gameover situation, because India is kidnapping and shifting the males (10 to 60 years old) from Valley to other parts off India, so whenever India will lift the curfew, there will be no one left to confront, protest and raise the voice against indian atrocities.
To get rid this sort of failure we need to encourage, train and equip the brave females of Kashmir Valley.
 
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Onslaught my foot, for onslaught Pakistani forces need to march to Srinagar across the LOC.
 
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A lot has already been said in favor of a brilliant and well balanced address of Prime Minister Imran Khan at UNGA. Even many of his critics thoroughly enjoyed and praised PMIK's speech and have been seen saying "proud of being a Pakistani today" after quite a long time. His speech was heard across the globe and at one point, #ImranKhanVoiceOfKashmir became a top trend on twitter. Approximately a million tweets have been posted since, which means that his address (positively or negatively... doesn't matter) is being discussed all over the world on social media.

The four concerns raised in PMIK's speech were placed in an extremely intelligent way. People might say that he wasn't reading from his notes, but honestly speaking, it wasn't a speech without a thorough preparation. The words he used, the sentences he spoke, the emotions he showed and the warnings he delivered were so nicely connected, and the concerns were so logically lined up, that it seemed Pakistani mission contracted a psychologist in addition to many other experts to assist in formulating this masterpiece delivered by PMIK today.

He started with environmental concerns, which attracted many people who might not know about the sub-continent let alone Kashmir, proving himself as a concerned citizen of the planet Earth. After attracting environmentalists (and everyone now considers himself as one) and those who are badly affected by global warming, he tried to attract all the countries that face poverty due to corruption supported by the richer economies by creating tax heavens. This speech is a reminder to those countries which only blame the third world countries of plunder-friendly laws, but conveniently close their eyes on their actions to provide security to the wealth of looters and money launderers. His address will also impact the next session of FATF as PMIK has tried to capture moral high ground here. It was then a turn to attract Muslims. The way he presented Islam I can see that every Muslim who has listened to his speech will do some soul searching. Has anyone from the Muslim Ummah raised these points at a liberal forum with such a confidence before him? In his 5 minutes, he completely separated radicals (belonging to any religion) from the mainstream. It was one of the best, if not the best defense of Islam in current turbulent times.

Once he gathered the attention of the above, he started his onslaught against India on Kashmir. I am sure 90% of the concerned Indian population might have changed the tv channels and gone back to bollywood songs during his address.

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OK, enough said about the address. 2019 has been an eventful year for all three parties i.e. Pakistan, India and Kashmiris. So far, Pakistan has responded effectively to the limited strikes, 5th generation war on media, and on the diplomatic fronts. For Indians, it was a good year indeed as they annexed Kashmir quite easily by striking or amending a couple of articles in their constitution. Realistically speaking, world will keep its eyes closed due to a over-a-billion-people's-market even after PMIK's desperate efforts to wake up the conscience of the world's leaders. In these desperate times, money can easily be preferred over justice, no doubt about it. We have been haplessly and helplessly watching the land being snatched from Palestinians and no one could do anything to stop Israelis.

Pakistan has played almost all the diplomatic cards as of today. By not escalating the situation in February this year and returning the Indian pilot, by engaging ourselves in the Afghan peace process, by offering our help in Middle East's crisis, by raining environmental concerns and by using different platforms to convey Kashmiri plight, we have shown the world that we are a peaceful nation which believes in coexistence. But is this enough? What if world again goes to sleep and we end up as a lone voice on Kashmir? Will India take any measures to help Kashmiris? What if India lifts curfew but Kashmiris are not able to put up a strong Taliban like resistance on their own? Will we continue to prove ourselves as a peaceful non-violent nation and helplessly see our brethren in Kashmir getting killed, sisters getting raped and children getting kidnapped?

This is now crystal clear that Pakistan will not support any proxy war, and will not initiate a limited or full scale war. My question to all Pakistani forum members.. What now? Please shed some light on what do you think about the next few months/ years.. and predict the next steps of India and Pakistan.


@Dubious @Mangus Ortus Novem @Shane @Signalian @ali_raza @Path-Finder @war&peace @Areesh @Farah Sohail @Zibago and others

Should have had this song as background to his speech:-

 
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A lot has already been said in favor of a brilliant and well balanced address of Prime Minister Imran Khan at UNGA. Even many of his critics thoroughly enjoyed and praised PMIK's speech and have been seen saying "proud of being a Pakistani today" after quite a long time. His speech was heard across the globe and at one point, #ImranKhanVoiceOfKashmir became a top trend on twitter. Approximately a million tweets have been posted since, which means that his address (positively or negatively... doesn't matter) is being discussed all over the world on social media.

The four concerns raised in PMIK's speech were placed in an extremely intelligent way. People might say that he wasn't reading from his notes, but honestly speaking, it wasn't a speech without a thorough preparation. The words he used, the sentences he spoke, the emotions he showed and the warnings he delivered were so nicely connected, and the concerns were so logically lined up, that it seemed Pakistani mission contracted a psychologist in addition to many other experts to assist in formulating this masterpiece delivered by PMIK today.

He started with environmental concerns, which attracted many people who might not know about the sub-continent let alone Kashmir, proving himself as a concerned citizen of the planet Earth. After attracting environmentalists (and everyone now considers himself as one) and those who are badly affected by global warming, he tried to attract all the countries that face poverty due to corruption supported by the richer economies by creating tax heavens. This speech is a reminder to those countries which only blame the third world countries of plunder-friendly laws, but conveniently close their eyes on their actions to provide security to the wealth of looters and money launderers. His address will also impact the next session of FATF as PMIK has tried to capture moral high ground here. It was then a turn to attract Muslims. The way he presented Islam I can see that every Muslim who has listened to his speech will do some soul searching. Has anyone from the Muslim Ummah raised these points at a liberal forum with such a confidence before him? In his 5 minutes, he completely separated radicals (belonging to any religion) from the mainstream. It was one of the best, if not the best defense of Islam in current turbulent times.

Once he gathered the attention of the above, he started his onslaught against India on Kashmir. I am sure 90% of the concerned Indian population might have changed the tv channels and gone back to bollywood songs during his address.

============================================

OK, enough said about the address. 2019 has been an eventful year for all three parties i.e. Pakistan, India and Kashmiris. So far, Pakistan has responded effectively to the limited strikes, 5th generation war on media, and on the diplomatic fronts. For Indians, it was a good year indeed as they annexed Kashmir quite easily by striking or amending a couple of articles in their constitution. Realistically speaking, world will keep its eyes closed due to a over-a-billion-people's-market even after PMIK's desperate efforts to wake up the conscience of the world's leaders. In these desperate times, money can easily be preferred over justice, no doubt about it. We have been haplessly and helplessly watching the land being snatched from Palestinians and no one could do anything to stop Israelis.

Pakistan has played almost all the diplomatic cards as of today. By not escalating the situation in February this year and returning the Indian pilot, by engaging ourselves in the Afghan peace process, by offering our help in Middle East's crisis, by raining environmental concerns and by using different platforms to convey Kashmiri plight, we have shown the world that we are a peaceful nation which believes in coexistence. But is this enough? What if world again goes to sleep and we end up as a lone voice on Kashmir? Will India take any measures to help Kashmiris? What if India lifts curfew but Kashmiris are not able to put up a strong Taliban like resistance on their own? Will we continue to prove ourselves as a peaceful non-violent nation and helplessly see our brethren in Kashmir getting killed, sisters getting raped and children getting kidnapped?

This is now crystal clear that Pakistan will not support any proxy war, and will not initiate a limited or full scale war. My question to all Pakistani forum members.. What now? Please shed some light on what do you think about the next few months/ years.. and predict the next steps of India and Pakistan.


@Dubious @Mangus Ortus Novem @Shane @Signalian @ali_raza @Path-Finder @war&peace @Areesh @Farah Sohail @Zibago and others

Modi single well anticipated move on Aug5 has severely exposed Pak’s weaknesses. Without Kashmiris shoulders to fire on nuke armed Pak is only capable of talkathons. IK is running pill or to post meeting all leaders and sundry of the world with zero effect. Now Pak knows what isolation really means.

Pak brand is way too damaged for any meaningful results.

Many of Pak posters may disagree, but if Pak had taken some meaningful action engaging China to ease the stress on Chinese muslims the world would be willing to lend a ear. You cannot be championing Kashmiri Muslim’s plight without saying anything about Uiger community.
 
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What will happen?
Nothing.
Business as usual. Let's get back to nation building and citizen welfare.
 
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if situation remain same, Kashmir will become another Palestine i.e joke for the world, no one will take us serious.
 
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To Indian posters asking with chest thumping what now?

You will know 2-4 years down the line. This is going to be a snowball effect, the start is always slow and clumsy but its gonna flow like a river soon and would wipe out whatever comes in its way.
 
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Modi single well anticipated move on Aug5 has severely exposed Pak’s weaknesses. Without Kashmiris shoulders to fire on nuke armed Pak is only capable of talkathons. IK is running pill or to post meeting all leaders and sundry of the world with zero effect. Now Pak knows what isolation really means.

Pak brand is way too damaged for any meaningful results.

Many of Pak posters may disagree, but if Pak had taken some meaningful action engaging China to ease the stress on Chinese muslims the world would be willing to lend a ear. You cannot be championing Kashmiri Muslim’s plight without saying anything about Uiger community.
And uiger community lives freely in their province/China, only anti china sentiment is not allowed but you look on IOK opposite is true @Mace
You're the biggest threat/mess for the Peace of subcontinent @Mace
JAY TERRORIST HIND @Mace
 
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Modi single well anticipated move on Aug5 has severely exposed Pak’s weaknesses. Without Kashmiris shoulders to fire on nuke armed Pak is only capable of talkathons.
You very well know,war is no solution and it would give birth to more problems.You can do as much moves you desire but at the end of day Pakistan won't back off neither would accept Bharat as new darogh of region.

Wars dont erupt announced.

Those who have invested in this war will not back Down on their investments that easily.

This is an opportunity of a lifetime for Pakistan as it has in the biggest Stage of them all washed her hands clean of the sin.
War would allow us to kill lot of bastards without noise.

He has said.. if India attacks us, it will be a nuclear war. But what if India doesn't attack? This is my question.
Nothing,kashmiris would continue dying in scores,after events of this year Bharat would increase it's cruelty towards peoples of IOJK.Because it knows that world doesn't cares about Muslims.
 
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i'll tell you what's next. India will lift the Curfew very soon. there is no way around it.
Eventually it has to. On a +ve side, the longer it goes on, the more exposed india gets.

War would allow us to kill lot of bastards without noise.
Are you implying that traitors like Mehmood Achkzai, will be dealt with?
 
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Eventually it has to. On a +ve side, the longer it goes on, the more exposed india gets.


Are you implying that traitors like Mehmood Achkzai, will be dealt with?
my only concern is boys being forced into sexual harrasment by indian army and women being forced..
they picked up 13000 boys already.
 
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He has said.. if India attacks us, it will be a nuclear war. But what if India doesn't attack? This is my question.
Out of frustration it just might. It has been cornered.

my only concern is ************ by indian army and women being forced..
they picked up 13000 boys already.
Kindly rephrase, we have respectable women on this forum.
 
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