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Dear Sir (Batmannow), please don't get upset with me.
The link regarding the Mirages is the Title of this thread and the discussion that has taken place so far in this thread.
I am merely making my arguement in this thread that if there is any possibility of getting these (DAM) Mirages then we should seriuosly pursue it as it has several potential advantages for us. However, if it is a completely dumb arguement then why was this thread opened at all ????
well i had a chat with an airforce office in air headquarter yesterday and he said france is offering many things including Rafael too but we are not going for anything like that.
so this thread is a crap
France has never said no to us ever yes they have being screwing with the prices typical of them. We are the only country in the world which has given them a platform that there planes are better than other, We have the largest fleet of Mirages in the world.
Problem is not that if we want it or not, Yes why not couple of SQD of Rafael would be an excellent addition to what we have and what we will have. Its the Money we cant buy French Fighters with American money which is given to us against WOT. That is why I have always said that we will never get B/52 or if we get them it will be too late USA has always made the deal and then put a stipulation on it to make the process go slow, So slow that after 20 years we have got what we paid for. If we would have kept 675million $$ in a bank for 20 years we would have had **** loads of money. JAS 39 with a flying fuel tanker is not a bad deal they are really lethal. What I like about them was change of configuration which truly made them a Swing role fighter.
Thanks very much, dear sir but my concern correlates with the saying, 'Nessecity knows no law'. And if your dissemination is true then how ISRO gets ready made delivery from U.S? How does it order JSF ahead of others without perticipating in its developing project? My point is MIA BIBI RAJI TO KYA KOREGA KAZI, also means if buyer and seller are in good marriage then its possible. I think selling and imaginative art need to be stretched in procurement comittee. Another reason why I am pushing for 'Off the shelf' delivery or even Joint-partnership along with NATO type of combined Islamic force is that all indications are there on pointing big guns next on PAK soon. If engine is the issue then why GOP doesn't take Kwaiti or Quatari Mirrages as lease as stop gap measure and upgrade them MK2-5 + standard? Why PAFers were willing to pay $1.5 B for block-50s without AESA and DFRM whilest those Mirages were sitting for sale and could be updated without the cost of innocent Pakistani lives? It is very unfortunate that our strategic brilliance isn't as par with Indians and we aren't efforting to fill that gap, thanks.Pakistan will buy whatever version comes close to providing capabilities that PAF wants and needs. May that is the reason that the version it needs was not available. Aircrafts are not something that you can pick up off the shelf. Also the first production goes to PLAAF.
What Pakistan really needs is a "First look, first shoot, first kill" capability. They may not get 100% of what they wish but anything close will be grabbed.
Thanks very much, dear sir but my concern correlates with the saying, 'Nessecity knows no law'. And if your dissemination is true then how ISRO gets ready made delivery from U.S? How does it order JSF ahead of others without perticipating in its developing project? My point is MIA BIBI RAJI TO KYA KOREGA KAZI, also means if buyer and seller are in good marriage then its possible. I think selling and imaginative art need to be stretched in procurement comittee. Another reason why I am pushing for 'Off the shelf' delivery or even Joint-partnership along with NATO type of combined Islamic force is that all indications are there on pointing big guns next on PAK soon. If engine is the issue then why GOP doesn't take Kwaiti or Quatari Mirrages as lease as stop gap measure and upgrade them MK2-5 + standard? Why PAFers were willing to pay $1.5 B for block-50s without AESA and DFRM whilest those Mirages were sitting for sale and could be updated without the cost of innocent Pakistani lives? It is very unfortunate that our strategic brilliance isn't as par with Indians and we aren't efforting to fill that gap, thanks.
but sir i have a question why are none of the charactersitics of the mirage fighter that pakistan has being copied by the chinese not even the engines are being copied from russian desgins