Pakistan’s Japanese-dominated car market set to attract Europe and Korea

[Saquib]

Start a campaign to open up the car market with common sense import duties - Juts Open up the market what are they frightened off!!!

 

[Moon]

let Inidan players in and you can drive this beast home for a little more than 30Lakh PKR ( High end)

Lol, nope. I know this guy who has a Tata Rexton, crappy built quality, it's panels were bloated, paint was peeling off, made a cloud of black smoke every time the gear would change, he got it for 90 lakh not 30, I would've bought a Surf instead.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

@AZADPAKISTAN2009while we got nothing except crappy models from the 80s.
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Actually more like the late 70s.

If I can share my experience/observations and after having spoken to many experienced car mechanics with 25+ years of experience French(Renault,Citeron,Peuget) and Italian(Alfa Romeo,Fiat,) they are garbage and should be avoided. A car should be spending more time carrying you about than at the garage being fixed! Fiat has bought Dodge and Chrysler well good luck to their owners.
Sporty Italian are no better but they are not at everyones reach plus sporty cars require far more maintanance as well.

The most successful engine ever made and unless I heard wrong is Honda V-Tec (petrol) type, overwhelming majorty are still running successfully.

I can't agree more with your assessments. All the French and Italian companies you mentioned are not sold in the U.S. probably since the late 90s due to poor reviews.

VW would be a good addition if it so because in china Volkswagen is very common ...and now we are making CPEC that would be of great help

Volkswagen has some historical bad rep in the U.S. It is only recently that any of their models have cracked the top 20 list.

because most people can't really afford to pay for a other than a bottom end suzuki.
Although introducing american junks would not be such a bad idea, they're still better than anything offered by suzuki or toyota in Pakistan.

Toyota Camry is the top selling sedan in the U.S. but keep in mind this is a $25K car. So that a big step up from $6500.

 

[razgriz19]

Toyota Camry is the top selling sedan in the U.S. but keep in mind this is a $25K car. So that a big step up from $6500.

I don't doubt that at all, but the camry in North America is much different than the one offered there.
Any my point was to actually bring american cars there and see how they do

 

[!eon]

We do not pay same price... and now a days Japanese are as good as European or American.
I believe no one can kill Mehran in Pakistan and CC play important part to its success.
You are posting pictures of Ford, now days it is not recognized as very reliable brand, but they have innovative engine technology, which may produce very high torque out of 1000 CC engines.

Mehran will be no where to seen if some competitors come. Its not a car worth 0.8 million.
If you mean CC in terms of fuel consumption then today it has not much importance. For example I got Mazda CX-5 with 2000 cc, 175 hp engine with almost equal fuel consumption to Mehran 800CC with 40 hp engine.
The only car in Pakistan with 2000 cc was Toyota 2.0 D with 74 hp engine.
What people in Pakistan don't care and not been told also, they should look for hp besides CC. Today's engines are not just mechanical.

However, I agree that other manufacturers should come, which are basically not coming due to mafiasim of car manufacturers in Pakistan.

Pakistanis are paying much much higher prices to these bloodsuckers of auto industry.
Wanted to buy Suzuki Kizashi for my father and was astonished after checking its price in Pakistan, 5000000 . Costs around $19000 in rest of the world including neighboring India.

 

[Mujraparty]

Lol, nope. I know this guy who has a Tata Rexton, crappy built quality, it's panels were bloated, paint was peeling off, made a cloud of black smoke every time the gear would change, he got it for 90 lakh not 30, I would've bought a Surf instead.

TATA Rexton .?? AFAIK they don't have any product called Rexton or did u mean SSANGYONG REXTON ..?

 

[Moon]

TATA Rexton .?? AFAIK they don't have any product called Rexton or did u mean SSANGYONG REXTON ..?

Lol sorry my bad, its a Sumo I mix them both, my mistake.

 

[mkg00179504]

This is exhibition car... most likely designed by some Italian designer, but this is not under production.

Any Pakistani business man can make contract with Mercedes for Engines and import assembly unit and there you go, 10 times better than what any bharti can ever dream.

P.S.: In history Pakistan had all UK, European and American auto brands... which could be seen on roads of Lahore as late as 80's. This was a time when human powered rickshaw ride was a dream of every bharti.



Do you know the size of the engine... it will be minimum 3.5 liter @MastanKhan ... come and put some sense to the fan boys, here as well.

That thing is has a 5.7 liter engine . In Pak people are dying to feed 1.3 and this guy is in really funny mood posting some heavy heavy stuff. My dad has a 2014 Chevy suburban it's a 5.7 beast but it's crazy on gas.

Regardless of the cc or capacity of engine , the focus should be on "QUALITY" vehicles when you spend money you get a vehicle that is

a) Safe
b) Produces no emissions
c) Reliable
d) Modern technology

If we go by CC value might as well stick to Tanga

If Pakistani has 10 Lakh rupees , and if he can get a FORD or GM for 10-14 Lakhs , what would you think he would spend his money on !!

Germany did not provide Submarine to Pakistan so VW should be allowed in Pakistan

Which ford or GM is for 10 lack . Ford, Cadillac, Lincoln, GMC, please let me know. Don't tell
Me the crappy revo even that's not for 10 lack or $ 10,000. Also you need a whole new setup of workshops to understand American engines, transmissions and electrical systems, module systems. Even mechanics here scratch their heads sometimes. Where the cheap parts are going to come from. A set of shocks ordering from a US ford dealer for an ordinary car will cost like $700-1000, you expect people back there to pay RS 70000-100,000 just for two shocks . My dads has a 2014 Chevy suburban each tire cost like $ 450.Beside that US cars has really heavy engines . How many Pakistanis can afford a V8 engine or a V6 . They cry when they feed a 1.3 L.

 

[mkg00179504]

VW has a good chance in Pakistan. I really like their cars they are awesome for speed and for tight corners. Also you get many options on the car and the best of all German tech.
VW Passat can compete with Camry and accord and beat the hell out of it . It's 2.0 turbo engine is fast and good on fuel, also better handling when you push it hard in the corners. It is also available in V6 can take on Toyota Mark X anyway.
VW Jetta can compete with Corolla and Civic and again give them beating of its life time. 2.0 turbo is fast it beats them in every way. Also available in a 2.5 non turbo version and actually diesel too.
VW golf GTI this is the car for young guys and people who like to thrash the car. Honda and Toyota do not have answer to this atleast in Pakistan. This thing is small but it has put many V6 cars to shame. It's 2.0 turbo is super fast. And the VR6 is just on another level , it will smoke any Toyota or Honda.

 

[Moon]

How old is the Sumo??.... The first Sumo was out in the market in early 90's....if not maintained properly that old Mercedes will also be in the same condition.

2008 I believe, yes you're right the car has no local maintenance fascility no spares available and to top it all it's in Clifton (very moist air) but my mom's Toyota Mark 2 Grande is older than the Sumo Grande but it's in mint condition (almost).

 

[Bombaywalla]

What? How on Earth did someone from Karachi manage to buy himself a Tata Sumo? I'm pretty sure you meant that in 2008, he bought a Ssangyong Rexton, before Mahindra bought it over in 2011.

 

[Moon]

What? How on Earth did someone from Karachi manage to buy himself a Tata Sumo? I'm pretty sure you meant that in 2008, he bought a Ssangyong Rexton, before Mahindra bought it over in 2011.

Aman ki Asha........ Its a Sumo it's Tareef was heard across the border. And it's Karachi a port city you can get these cars fresh off imports at auctions. Indian goods are very much present here. And I mistakenly wrote Rexton as I mixed both of them l btw there are a couple of Rextons in Karachi too.

 

[Bombaywalla]

Aman ki Asha........ Its a Sumo it's Tareef was heard across the border. And it's Karachi a port city you can get these cars fresh off imports at auctions. Indian goods are very much present here. And I mistakenly wrote Rexton as I mixed both of them l btw there are a couple of Rextons in Karachi too.

I didn't know that. All I've heard of wrt Indian vehicles in Pakistan is that either they're consulate cars, or used imports from Dubai. No direct sales. Anyway, the Sumo, used to Tata's bread and butter product as it brought in much revenue through sales in the rural MUV taxi market before more up-to-date and safer products were launched by the vehicle giant in recent years.

 

[Viper0011.]

No Chinese car companies?

There are a couple already in negotiations with the Punjab government to build a plant in Punjab and make cars with TOT to Pakistan.

 

[Moon]

I didn't know that. All I've heard of wrt Indian vehicles in Pakistan is that either they're consulate cars, or used imports from Dubai. No direct sales. Anyway, the Sumo, used to Tata's bread and butter product as it brought in much revenue through sales in the rural MUV taxi market before more up-to-date and safer products were launched by the vehicle giant in recent years.

Indian vehicles are extremely expensive after import taxes and registration is done. The reason why Japan hails supreme is because of easily available spares and maintenance centres as spares are built within the country.