Pakistan's former ambassador to US 'lobbying against own country', says Aziz

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Can Pakistani diplomats counter him or would they just whine, cry and abuse in return?


Initiative? What initiative? To whine like a Maasi against Haqqani?

Is this a diplomatic strategy?

Of course they are countering him diplomatically. This statement of sartaj aziz is also a diplomatic jab at HH. But all of this doesn't hide from the fact that he's worked against the interest of Pakistan and that too as a Pakistani embassdor. And that's why he gets bashed by Pakistani populace.

 

[Lavrentiy]

The minimum "Ehd e Wafa" that we can do for our place birth is that if we cannot be loyal to it then at least don't betray it and work against its interest

LOLZ. I was talking about counter-narrative and all you have are shallow slogans of patriotism.

Of course they are countering him diplomatically. This statement of sartaj aziz is also a diplomatic jab at HH. But all of this doesn't hide from the fact that he's worked against the interest of Pakistan and that too as a Pakistani embassdor. And that's why he gets bashed by Pakistani populace.

This is certainly not diplomacy. This is being a crybaby.

Hussain Haqqani has a standing whether you like him or hate. Just try to counter his opinion.

 

[Bratva]

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As someone said, Opinions are like arseholes, everyone got one. This is so called do takay ka scholar can accuse Pakistan as much as he wants, where does his scholarly senses go when America is arming the terrorists and trying to topple government of Syria ? He can see Pakistan helping Taliban who in turns kill Us Soldiers, where does his scholarly analysis goes when America arms syrian terrorists and kurds who in turn killing syrian soldiers and turkish soldiers ? So it is easy to take digs at Pakistan, Lets see if he can take dig at his adopted Mai Baap Amreeka. Or his pants gets wet by criticizing America for arming terrorists in Syria ! If he cant understand why Pakistan help Taliban, then he should ask and try to understand why America is funding terrorists in Syria so to understand Pak-Afghan matrix.

 

[notorious_eagle]

As someone said, Opinions are like arseholes, everyone got one. This is so called do takay ka scholar can accuse Pakistan as much as he wants, where does his scholarly senses go when America is arming the terrorists and trying to topple government of Syria ? He can see Pakistan helping Taliban who in turns kill Us Soldiers, where does his scholarly analysis goes when America arms syrian terrorists and kurds who in turn killing syrian soldiers and turkish soldiers ? So it is easy to take digs at Pakistan, Lets see if he can take dig at his adopted Mai Baap Amreeka. Or his pants gets wet by criticizing America for arming terrorists in Syria ! If he cant understand why Pakistan help Taliban, then he should ask and try to understand why America is funding terrorists in Syria so to understand Pak-Afghan matrix.

Scholar ?

Calling someone like Hussain Haqqani a scholar is an insult to that word itself. Just read his book, its full of speculations and opinionated without an ounce of evidence or facts. The only reason why he managed to sold a few copies is because of its inherent Anti Pakistan Bias, that's all.

He is like a scorned women, whose lover had s** with her but didn't marry her. He failed in Pakistan, Big Time, and this is why he has made it his life's work to somehow embarrass the country where he was born. He failed as a politician, jumping to different political parties like a street hooker to somehow find prominence but failed. Off course he had to resort to his usual blackmailing tactics to gain the Ambassadorship to the US. The lure of Dollars was too much for him to resist, and being a Political Hooker he happily jumped on the bandwagon.

Now, since he's a nobody in the US, he is desperately trying to gain some attention by launching these Anti Pakistan tirades which sell like hot cakes in the US. I think discussing someone like Hussain Haqqani on this forum is an insult to ourselves.

 

[Djinn]

Initiative? What initiative? To whine like a Maasi against Haqqani?

Is this a diplomatic strategy?

The fact that he had to issue a counter narrative in a futile effort to prove his designation as an "IR scholar" goes to show that he is feeling the heat. His situation is just like that of a Massi who is caught stealing and then she pleads not guilty on account that she was only doing her job.

Why hasn't HH been booked for this alleged high treason as of yet, then? What is stopping Pakistani courts from taking said action? Please present the case post haste!

For the same reason when he was made an ambassador....Political affiliations.

 

[VCheng]

For the same reason when he was made an ambassador....Political affiliations.

There is a different government, and a different COAS in power. The old affiliations do not hold sway anymore.

As someone said, Opinions are like arseholes, everyone got one. This is so called do takay ka scholar can accuse Pakistan as much as he wants, where does his scholarly senses go when America is arming the terrorists and trying to topple government of Syria ? He can see Pakistan helping Taliban who in turns kill Us Soldiers, where does his scholarly analysis goes when America arms syrian terrorists and kurds who in turn killing syrian soldiers and turkish soldiers ? So it is easy to take digs at Pakistan, Lets see if he can take dig at his adopted Mai Baap Amreeka. Or his pants gets wet by criticizing America for arming terrorists in Syria ! If he cant understand why Pakistan help Taliban, then he should ask and try to understand why America is funding terrorists in Syria so to understand Pak-Afghan matrix.

Deriding his opinion may be cathartic, but ultimately useless. What Pakistan needs to put forward is a better counter-narrative to nullify any perceived harm HH might be doing inside the Beltway. That is far more productive. Where is that effort? Otherwise, wrong and biased and all the things you said above he might be, he is thus far unchallenged where it matters.

 

[Djinn]

There is a different government, and a different COAS in power. The old affiliations do not hold sway anymore.

It's an open secret that PPP and PMLN are each others cohorts and unlike the politics of the previous decades they don't go after each other now. And despite that if the Foreign ministry has issued a statement to muzzle Huqqani it could most probably at behest of the only institution which remains loyal to this country.

 

[VCheng]

It's an open secret that PPP and PMLN are each others cohorts and unlike the politics of the previous decades they don't go after each other now. And despite that if the Foreign ministry has issued a statement to muzzle Huqqani it could most probably at behest of the only institution which remains loyal to this country.

That is why I said that a different COAS is in power. And a different facade. Think about that for a moment.

 

[Djinn]

That is why I said that a different COAS is in power. And a different facade. Think about that for a moment.

And hence you got an official Pakistani statement now, No?

 

[Kaniska]

I know you are here to halal your whatever you get, He is saying this because the only way he can stay in US is by doing these kind of stunts against Pakistan. he get to stay in US out of reach of Pakistan courts and he gets paid.

But does it matter no, even what the congress says these days dosen't matter as gone are days when US gets to dictate Pakistan and we will keep doing whats in Pakistan interest and not US so they can enjoy afghanistan.

I think you are still in delusion...US, Europe and Gulf nations still matters to developing nations because it allows immigration to their own country...And in that way, developing nation gets foreign currency.

 

[VCheng]

And hence you got an official Pakistani statement now, No?

Yes. But such a statement is pathetic, compared to the dignity and force of a formal and due process in a court of law, if there is indeed a case here. Which there is not. The only outrage of the howler-brayer brigade is against HH's audacity to speak out a different thought process than that prescribed by the military. This presumption that only the military can define who is a patriot, and who is not, is totally false, of course.

 

[Djinn]

Yes. But such a statement is pathetic, compared to the dignity and force of a formal and due process in a court of law, if there is indeed a case here. Which there is not. The only outrage of the howler-brayer brigade is against HH's audacity to speak out a different thought process than that prescribed by the military. This presumption that only the military can define who is a patriot and who is not is totally false, of course.

Befits him well, he once held an important Pakistani designation and since he is exploiting that to peddle Anti Pakistan propaganda obviously for the vested interests of his sponsors. It's imperative that he be given a loud & clear SHUT UP call and if that doesn't work then some stricter actions should be in place. Of course the military cannot take decisions on peoples patriotism, but military is in charge of the National security and interests..........And if some people try to undermine these in any capacity, the call to discredit them is highly merited.

 

[VCheng]

It's imperative that he be given a loud & clear SHUT UP call and if that doesn't work then some stricter actions should be in place.

A mere statement is no "shut up call". The only stricter action that would be valid is due process in a court of law. Anything less is useless.

 

[Djinn]

A mere statement is no "shut up call". The only stricter action that would be valid is due process in a court of law. Anything less is useless.

Provoked his venomous reaction, seems to have done the job. As for his punishment, how can his case proceed in a court if he is absconding. Stripping him off his Pakistani nationality(if he has any) would be a wise move....but that of course depends upon the Pakistani establishment's resolve to take stern actions.

 

[iPhone]

I say good thing sartaj aziz called him out, I would've preferred if had mentioned his name. But even a veiled hint smoked this rat out. This goes to show you what a rat he is, he sensed they were talking about him and came crawling out of his rat hole.