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[Major Sam]

I agree with you that this is not the way should be. But thank you for noting that what I say is the way it is now. Nothing is forever, but the longer the problem is allowed to fester, the bigger and bigger it becomes. After all, it took several decades to get this bad already, and if we delay the solutions for another five years, it can only get worse and worse to resolve. That is just the way it is.

as i think, we should work on multiple projects simultaneously rather than focusing on one thing beside that govt. should encourage new housing schemes and industries to produce their own power.

 

[Leader]

I agree with you that this is not the way should be. But thank you for noting that what I say is the way it is now. Nothing is forever, but the longer the problem is allowed to fester, the bigger and bigger it becomes. After all, it took several decades to get this bad already, and if we delay the solutions for another five years, it can only get worse and worse to resolve. That is just the way it is.

This much you agreed, hope you wont be saying impossible again...its possible... but hey dont forget the efforts pmln govt would put to solve the issue, this would be something, it wont be like we would be sitting like lame ducks as we were in the last five years or overlooked the arising energy needs. so I am hopeful that problem wont grow bigger but either be reduced or remain more or less at the same state.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

as i think, we should work on multiple projects simultaneously rather than focusing on one thing beside that govt. should encourage new housing schemes and industries to produce their own power.

The problem with housing schemes and industries producing their own power is that the unit cost is very high because economies of scale are much smaller, compared to large scale projects.

This much you agreed, hope you wont be saying impossible again...its possible... but hey dont forget the efforts pmln govt would put to solve the issue, this would be something, it wont be like we would be sitting like lame ducks as we were in the last five years or overlooked the arising energy needs. so I am hopeful that problem wont grow bigger but either be reduced or remain more or less at the same state.

Anything is possible, but you must also look at how likely something is to happen. Loadshedding remaining at the same state? 18 hours per day with no power. Lots of work done by this government? only 6 hours per day with no power. Yes, that is much better, but it is still lots of loadshedding.

 

[Major Sam]

The problem with housing schemes and industries producing their own power is that the unit cost is very high because economies of scale are much smaller, compared to large scale projects.

well it can be for small industrial estates not for only one industry because even unit price is may be higher but in llonger run if is much beneficial. rather than turning off industry 3,4 days a week.

other thing is govt. should give awareness about other alternative energy sources we have largest canal system of teh world so small power units can be build there and beside that govt. should cut import duty on any thing related to power generation like solar panels, batteries and highly efficient inverters.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

well it can be for small industrial estates not for only one industry because even unit price is may be higher but in llonger run if is much beneficial. rather than turning off industry 3,4 days a week.

other thing is govt. should give awareness about other alternative energy sources we have largest canal system of teh world so small power units can be build there and beside that govt. should cut import duty on any thing related to power generation like solar panels, batteries and highly efficient inverters.

Even for industrial estates a few tens or hundreds of MW is still vastly more expensive than the several thousand MW megaprojects. Given higher energy costs, the products become uncompetitive in international markets given that industries in other countries benefit from much lower per unit costs for energy.

The same problem holds true for small scale generation on canals and alternative sources.

 

[Contrarian]

Even for industrial estates a few tens or hundreds of MW is still vastly more expensive than the several thousand MW megaprojects. Given higher energy costs, the products become uncompetitive in international markets given that industries in other countries benefit from much lower per unit costs for energy.

The same problem holds true for small scale generation on canals and alternative sources.

You are thinking long term.
If the industries are allowed to generate their own power, they might not be as competitive, but something is better than nothing.

At the very least it would take some load off the residential requirements. That is something.

 

[Gentelman]

idher gappain marnay say bijli banti to Pakistan main bijli ka burhan na hoota……

idher gappain marnay say bijli banti to Pakistan main bijli ka burhan na hoota……

You are thinking long term.
If the industries are allowed to generate their own power, they might not be as competitive, but something is better than nothing.

At the very least it would take some load off the residential requirements. That is something.

here i know 2-3 Industrial groups who are fullfilling their energy requirements by generating electricity themselves soo industries are definately allowed to generate electricity………

 

[ejaz007]

US to support Diamer Bhasha Dam construction: Olson

ISLAMABAD: US Ambassador Richard G Olson on Wednesday said the United States would support the construction of Diamer Bhasha Dam to help reduce energy problems being faced by Pakistan.

Talking to Finance Minister Ishaq Dar he said the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) would finance the feasibility studies for the construction of Diamer Bhasha Dam. The US support would comfort the international financial institutions, he added.

Olson termed the recently concluded programme with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) good and said the ‘US supports the programme.’

Dilating on the details of the progress made so far with the IMF, Senator Ishaq Dar termed them positive, saying the only pending issues that needed to be resolved, were the size and tranches of the loan.

Dar welcomed the interest shown by the US Congress for its support in carrying out feasibility studies for Pakistan’s flagship storage project Diamer Bhasha Dam.

During the meeting, the issue of Bilateral Investment Treaty (BIT) between the two countries also came under discussion and the Finance Minister said he intended to obtain input from all the stakeholders.

The forthcoming visit of Secretary of State John Kerry also came up for discussion.

The US Ambassador informed the Finance Minister the US Secretary of State was looking forward to meet him and discuss current bilateral economic issues.

The Finance Minister said Pakistan was looking forward to his visit and expressed hope meetings with the US Secretary of State would be productive and mutually beneficial. app

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[A1Kaid]

Sindh allots 908 acres for 500MW wind farms


Read it here Sindh allots 908 acres for 500MW wind farms

 

[A1Kaid]

Construction of 147MW Patrind Hydro project begins in AJK




July 22, 2013
INP



ISLAMABAD - Second hydro IPP of 147 MW in the private sector, processed by Private Power and Infrastructure Board (PPIB) has started construction and its ground breaking is likely in the next month. The estimated investment on the project namely Patrind Hydro power is 362 million US dollars and located in the AJK.

The project would start its commercial operation in 2017. First hydro has already started its operation and contributing 84 MW and last week the Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif inaugurated it.


In line with the policy of the federal government, PPIB is working on various projects of about 1100 MW to be completed during next five years. Sources told INP that the PPIB is expediting the Gulpur hydro project of 100 mw, the third hydro IPP in the private sector to be completed by December 2017. All the major formalities are being finalized and the project is in the Financial Close phase.


PPIB has already successfully managed to induct 29 independent private projects under 1994, 1995 and 2002 policies, totaling about 8657 MW in the national grid which is more than 50 % of the total generation of the country. Due to these projects the country received a foreign direct investment of $ 9.4 billion and attracted leading international and local investors to the Pakistan’s power sector.

Excerpt: Construction of 147MW Patrind Hydro project begins in AJK


Good job by the new Government taking the lead already on the energy issue.

 

[salman77]

China to set up 50 MW wind energy project in Sindh

KARACHI - A Chinese company will set up a 50-megawatt wind energy project at Gharo area of the province.
Official sources said the project would be completed at a cost of US $120 million and would start generating power by June 2015.
On completion‚ the project would not only help reduce the power shortage‚ but would also create job opportunities for the local people.
The company was also planning to launch nine more similar projects in the province if the scheme was met with success.

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[salman77]

Russian firm ready to invest in 500-600MW coal-fired projects

ISLAMABAD: A Russian company has shown interest in implementation of 500-600MW coal-fired thermal power projects near the cities of Muzaffargarh and Jamshoro in the public sector, and also in modernization and conversion of some other power projects in the country to coal.

A Russian delegation comprising of Eng. Alexey Semenkov, Director of Overseas Projects, M/s. South Centre of Power Engineering PLC (SCPE), Eng. Valery Davydyuk, Deputy General Director, & Eng. Dimitry Solodyankin, Deputy General Director M/s. ECM, called on Chairman BOI Mohammad Zubair in Board of Investment. M/s ECM is the consortium partner of SCPE.

Semenkov apprised that SCPE is the leading Russian state-controlled engineering company, widely known in the power industry.

In order to mobilize funding for the coal-fired and other thermal power projects, SCPE in cooperation with the leading Russian banks is ready to hold talks with Pakistani authorities on the structuring of the financing in the amount of 85 % from the cost of these projects for a period of not less than 14 years.

The company was also agreed for modernization and conversion to coal the unit No. 1 of TPP “Guddu”; dispersal of power from 747 MW thermal power plant “Guddu” (construction of HV transmission line with the capacity of 500 kV); upgrading and construction of HV transmission lines and substation 220 kV in the districts of D.I.Khan.

He further apprised that the Russian companies are keen to participate in international tenders for projects such as hydroelectric power station “Tarbela” (lot 1 of the construction work), HPP “Tarbela” (lot 2 of the Electromechanical works), as well as hydroelectric power station “KeyalKwar”.

Chairman BOI said that I am sure that the plans will contribute to further intensification of cooperation between Russia and Pakistan in the field of electric power industry, and the implementation of the projects.

Russian firm ready to invest in 500-600MW coal-fired projects Pakistan Business

 

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[Al Bhatti]

Dubai population at the moment is around 2 million and it plans to produce 20MW by 2020 from landfills.

Given the population of Pakistan of around 180 million and the amount of waste produced and the shortage in electricity production, can't we by using something like this produce atleast 1000s of MW all over Pakistan, and with time increase the number of such plants to produce more electricity.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...overy-plant-region-s-first-produce-power.html

 

[arushbhai]

Dubai population at the moment is around 2 million and it plans to produce 20MW by 2020 from landfills.

Given the population of Pakistan of around 180 million and the amount of waste produced and the shortage in electricity production, can't we by using something like this produce atleast 1000s of MW all over Pakistan, and with time increase the number of such plants to produce more electricity.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...overy-plant-region-s-first-produce-power.html

Its expensive. First, we have to collect waste from all over pakistan and gather it at one site where the plant is. Do you know how much man force, money, petrol you need to do that? The electricity unit will probably cost around 100 Rs if we make energy from trash.