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Pakistan's economy is only stable when USD is fixed at 99 Rs: Maryam Nawaz

Bro sorry to say all I see is your Bugz-e-Pakistan, artificial overvaluation and in turn subsidy on imports has caused much harm already, we won't survive another round of artificial currency valuation.

I disagree, we should manipulate the currency as China and Japan did, to our advantage. Why let the internal market decide the rate of currency when it can be very easily manipulated by some of the richest in Pakistan?
 
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I disagree, we should manipulate the currency as China and Japan did, to our advantage. Why let the internal market decide the rate of currency when it can be very easily manipulated by some of the richest in Pakistan?
They manipulated the currency and devalued it to support their exports, what you are saying is opposite. Pakistan is following what China and Vietnam did.
 
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Whatever PMLN want is bad for Pakistan and Pakistanis. They are only interested in siphoning Pakistan's wealth into their own bank accounts and running the country like a kingdom.

You cannot expect them to be stupid enough to expect returns from a sinking ship!

They can only milk Pakistan when it is properly fed and able to provide milk and cream; a starving and financially encumbered Pakistan makes no sense to those who seek to enhance their own fortunes.
 
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They manipulated the currency and devalued it to support their exports, what you are saying is opposite. Pakistan is following what China and Vietnam did.

What I said, and explained in the sentence, is to manipulate the currency like China and Japan did, but to our advantage. When we needed to import, we needed an artificially lowered USD; when we start exporting above our weight, we should then devalue the rupee. Devalued rupee when we still need to import has hurt us real bad. We should have kept a parity between imports, exports, remittances and debt servicing until our local industry was well established for lowing of imports by offering local alternatives as well as moving towards higher exports.
 
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You cannot expect them to be stupid enough to expect returns from a sinking ship!

They can only milk Pakistan when it is properly fed and able to provide milk and cream; a starving and financially encumbered Pakistan makes no sense to those who seek to enhance their own fortunes.

Then why did they keep the rupee stable by taking unsustainable loans, which they and every analyst at the time said would have disastrous concequences?

Why did they loot the coffers right before they lost the election and handed power over to the interim government?

Why did they do literally nothing in terms of improving beaurocracy or administration across Pakistan despite having a clear mandate and political power for it?

Why was Pakistan's foreign office muffled for years, and why did Nawaz order officials to never speak out about the ills and tragedies caused by India against Pakistanis?

These people arent some benevolent dictators who want to invest in the future, they are crooks who want to steal every rupee they can before people catch on and they are hanged in the streets.
 
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Your papa has alot of money go buy dollars from open market and start selling in for Rs.99. And yeah your papa has some deep connections with Money exchange companies (Hint: Motorway kickbacks that I know personally and the people who use to go deliver it to your door step)
 
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Bro you are going one step ahead, you can not increase your exports by overvalued currency it makes your exports less competitive. China currency is still undervalued it never overvalued it's currency to begin with.
To attain a natural balance between imports and exports and not starve your own industries of local market, the best way is to let the market determine the value of rupee.
Pakistan is not even able to meet it's interest payment requirements on its own and takes additional loans for it, and you want to burn your reserves (built on borrowed loans) by subsidizing imports and on top of it finance CAD on external loans as well?
Do you understand what debt trap is? Why not just sell the country and be done with it?

Are you an importer?
 
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Then why did they keep the rupee stable by taking unsustainable loans, which they and every analyst at the time said would have disastrous concequences?

Why did they loot the coffers right before they lost the election and handed power over to the interim government?

Why did they do literally nothing in terms of improving beaurocracy or administration across Pakistan despite having a clear mandate and political power for it?

Why was Pakistan's foreign office muffled for years, and why did Nawaz order officials to never speak out about the ills and tragedies caused by India against Pakistanis?

These people arent some benevolent dictators who want to invest in the future, they are crooks who want to steal every rupee they can before people catch on and they are hanged in the streets.

Same numerical order of responses:

1. The rupee remained stable and all loans were sustainable with a growing economy. The judicial over-activism and unnatural role of the establishment worked the same on economy as acid on skin. And analysts may have agreed or disagreed with the management; financial experts they are not.

2. Because looting is what they do best, they did it for the entire duration of their stay in power and not just before handing power to the interim Government.

3. What has any Government done to improve Bureaucracy? How would you do it? In my opinion the entire crap system of CSS should be abolished and flushed down the toilet. Ministries should be handled by technocrats who are specifically educated, trained and experienced in the position for which they are recruited.

4. Because foreign office was being handled directly by the establishment, there is no secret about it.

5. They are crooks alright, but see they are smart. They know that if Pakistan makes a 100 rupee, they can steal 5 rupees but if Pakistan makes 1000 rupees, they will be able to steam 50 rupees and hence the effort.
 
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Reading through the comments here I cannot help but get the feeling that people are against a stronger rupee only because PML/Maryam/Dar/NS managed it as opposed to actually trying to figure which is better for Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Woh kuch aisa kehte hain na ke Hubbe-Muawia mai nahi bugz-e-Ali mai!
No one is against a stronger Rs but an inflated currency is the worst thing to happen for a developing economy
1. The rupee remained stable and all loans were sustainable with a growing economy. The judicial over-activism and unnatural role of the establishment worked the same on economy as acid on skin. And analysts may have agreed or disagreed with the management; financial experts they are not.
No they were not the growth was led by consumption and spending not exports
We were going for a huge bust Miftah only managed to delay it just till the elections by devaluing the Rs in last months
 
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PM candidate Maryam Nawaz has shared words of economic wisdom. She proudly claimed in a TV interview recently that Pakistani economy is only stable when USD is fixed to 99 RS for 5 years 😂
Entire party leadership of Pmln is still following Darnomics despite nearly bankrupting Pakistan in 2018
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so after failing in medicine she is now an economic genius ?...the next Milton Friedman?


Does she know how to do that without burning our reserves? Does she even know how the reserves get replenished?


Yes she does.. go to IMF...
 
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You cannot expect them to be stupid enough to expect returns from a sinking ship!

They kept the dollar artificially low so that they can move their looted money oversea. If you have 100K rupee, and want to convert it to dollar, its better for the rate to be lower.

This is just an example:

100K @ 164 = $610

100K @ 124 = $810

That is why they kept the dollar low using loans that this country couldn't afford. Move their ill gotten money oversea.

What I said, and explained in the sentence, is to manipulate the currency like China and Japan did, but to our advantage. When we needed to import, we needed an artificially lowered USD; when we start exporting above our weight, we should then devalue the rupee. Devalued rupee when we still need to import has hurt us real bad. We should have kept a parity between imports, exports, remittances and debt servicing until our local industry was well established for lowing of imports by offering local alternatives as well as moving towards higher exports.

China and Japan have a strong economy, and foreign reserves (3trillion China/ 300billion Japan) that can be used to keep dollar low. We barely have a foreign reserves of $15 billion to burn. Yes keeping the dollar low helps, by allowing us to import machinery at lower price. However, if you look at the data, imports of machinery was low compared to other goods. Because of low dollar, we started importing finished goods, instead of raw materials or machinery for our local industry. This killed our local industry. This was one of the factors that forced textiles business to move to Bangladesh. When you have such a competitive environment, business will always choose the route that gives the most profit. And when business shut down, you get higher unemployment.



https://tradingeconomics.com/china/foreign-exchange-reserves

As for subsidiaries, yes they help the lower income people. But how do you pay for it. When you subsidize something, government pays a part of the cost, so that it will be cheaper for the end consumer. If you got no business operating in Pakistan, how can you collect tax to use on subsidiaries. And if you take loans from other country, Its going to be expensive, and those loans have to be paid back one day, and without any plans of generating income that is difficult.

If you subizied lets says clothes or shoes, using foreign loans, the only way those loan can generate income for you is on the tax collected when consumer buys the product. But if your tax system is already terrible, there is very little hope of you generating any sizeable income to pay the loan off.

Now if you were to use the loans to subsidized machinery or help the local industry, you get a bigger income to collect tax from. They will have orders from all over the world, a much bigger customer segment to generate taxable profit for business, not to mention the locals would have a job. Those employed people will also have money to buy goods to keep the economy going. If there is no business, there is no employed person, and if there is no employed person, there is no money flowing through the economy.
 
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Same numerical order of responses:

1. The rupee remained stable and all loans were sustainable with a growing economy. The judicial over-activism and unnatural role of the establishment worked the same on economy as acid on skin. And analysts may have agreed or disagreed with the management; financial experts they are not.

2. Because looting is what they do best, they did it for the entire duration of their stay in power and not just before handing power to the interim Government.

3. What has any Government done to improve Bureaucracy? How would you do it? In my opinion the entire crap system of CSS should be abolished and flushed down the toilet. Ministries should be handled by technocrats who are specifically educated, trained and experienced in the position for which they are recruited.

4. Because foreign office was being handled directly by the establishment, there is no secret about it.

5. They are crooks alright, but see they are smart. They know that if Pakistan makes a 100 rupee, they can steal 5 rupees but if Pakistan makes 1000 rupees, they will be able to steam 50 rupees and hence the effort.


1. Yes this was so sutainable that they were looking to get IMF bailouts before they were booted out of power:


2. That's true but if they wanted what was best for Pakistan then they would simply allowed the interim government to do their jobs, instead they made it monumentally more difficult for nobody's gain but their own.

3. The point being that if they were interested in development then they would actually do something about it. Now we have a government which actually seems to care, and they are far too preocupied cleaning the mess of the past 30 years as well as the present day crisis's.

4. Sure so when the former spokesperson of the FO says that the PM ordered them to not speak about India, that was the establishments fault yes?


Oh and the past and present FM's we had were all part of the establishment right? Please. Stop thinking one-dimensionally and use some logic, the establishment has their role but the foreign policy of Pakistan is always primarily driven by the government of the day.

5. No they steal 100 Rs, take out a high interest loan to finance the other 900 Rs and then steam another 50 Rs after.
 
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