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'Pakistan's attempt to reconcile with Bangladesh will fall flat'

Fortunately your authority is not mentally unstable like your kind . We also have such kind of mentally unstable people in Bangladesh and we call them chetona clown(extremely anti Pakistan people).

Both types are burden for civilization.

PS : You edited your message that said that you are happy with current condition of relationship between Bangladesh and Pakistan . From now I will quote whole message instead of few lines as evidence that should be keep here.

Foreign Policy is other thing, Personal emotions are different.

What Govt is doing is following realist foreign policy, trying to make good gesture toward a country which can't harm us even if gesture failed and can bring a diplomatic ally if succeed.

What i stated was the sentiment of people, we will not legitimize treason of Bengali, we will not allow anyone to declare our elders genocidal terrorists.

i repeat If price is to apologize to Hasina and his other traitor kind, then i am quite satisfied with current state of relationship with Bangladesh.
 
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Diplomacy alone cannot do anything. Diplomacy must be backed with force. Do you think China, USA, Russia will listen to Bangladesh's request? No.

Moreover delaying the Rohingya repatriation will create problems for Bangladesh. As time will pass people will forget the Rohingya crisis and the Rohingya will become mixed with the mainstream Bangladeshi population.

I believe the Rohingya repatriation is already lost cause. Bangladesh should give them citizenship because we cannot feed them for hundreds of years.
i don;t understand what you're trying to convey at one point you say bangladesh shouldn't have enmity and hostility and other you say diplomacy should be backed by force... what camp are you in exactly

Rohyngas are being shifted at extremely slow rate, Bangladesh doesn't have any form of leverage thanks to it's foreign policy docility.

They shouldn't be given citizenship at any cost... the amount bangladesh spent behind them is miniscule compared to the foreign aid bangladesh received to feed them
 
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i don;t understand what you're trying to convey at one point you say bangladesh shouldn't have enmity and hostility and other you say diplomacy should be backed by force... what camp are you in exactly

Rohyngas are being shifted at extremely slow rate, Bangladesh doesn't have any form of leverage thanks to it's foreign policy docility.

They shouldn't be given citizenship at any cost... the amount bangladesh spent behind them is miniscule compared to the foreign aid bangladesh received to feed them
Hostility part was about India not Myanmar.

Bangladesh must be aggressive against Myanmar until and unless the Rohingya issue gets solved.
 
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Yes, 26 March was the cold blooded murder of a gun-less people by another gun-trotting people. They just fired guns and machine guns at bystanders and at the windows that killed innocent onlookers.

Yah murder is when you kill other human(s) with intent. There are degrees (1st, 2nd, 3rd etc) depending on level of premeditation etc.

Manslaughter is when you kill other human(s) without intent to do so.

Legally the distinction is very wide one.
 
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Yah murder is when you kill other human(s) with intent. There are degrees (1st, 2nd, 3rd etc) depending on level of premeditation etc.

Manslaughter is when you kill other human(s) without intent to do so.

Legally the distinction is very wide one.


But but separatists, Biharis, Indian Army.......

Revolt; mast crush; Haaaaaalk smash!

Heard another new one the other day : Communists.
 
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You wanna bet? By the looks of things, india is making big moves to annex bd. They want to deploy their army in bd for security assistance
Why do you think so? Have you received any real intelligence from the DGFI, ISI, or the CIA? one should not spread false rumors that involves our sovereignty. You are talking like a child. However, a country is not something like children's play thing.

By the way, you are fondly spreading a false rumor. May I ask what would be your own role in such a dire situation? Will you fight against the IA troops or will keep on spreading more rumor?

About IA troops to invade BD, they have been expelled in March 1972 by Mujib. 1971 was an extra-ordinary time. Now it is not.
 
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Why do you think so? Have you received any real intelligence from the DGFI, ISI, or the CIA? one should not spread false rumors that involves our sovereignty. You are talking like a child. However, a country is not something like children's play thing.

About IA troops in BD, they have been expelled in March 1972 by Mujib. 1971 was an extra-ordinary time. Now it is not.
I'm talking based on insider information. India did suggest deployment of their army to assist with coronavirus work... which the govt. firmly rejected in strong language. Army leadership is now torn to two (china/India centric as evidenced by recent allegations by Sarwardy and subsequent outburst of ISPR, which i've since verified too) and there was a huge disturbance regarding suggestions of such measures that the govt. had to ensure that it wouldn't do anything questionable to our interest.
you shouldn't check out the news, the indians are now playing damage control
 
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But but separatists, Biharis, Indian Army.......

Revolt; mast crush; Haaaaaalk smash!

Heard another new one the other day : Communists.

People can do revisionism and false justification as much as they want on it.

It all comes from a psyche... there are such things as false memory syndrome of an especially large disturbing variety too....where a person can genuinely believe in it and has it all compartmentalised and ordered even.

I have served some number of months of ban in total for referring and exploring it somewhat (like what does it exactly drive today and possibly tomorrow as well).... it is no-go subject at large here past a certain depth level.

They assumed because I questioned the 3 million figure (after some extremists from BD side kept pushing that for darker purpose here too), that I took their side in their absolute way (that no genocide happened at all).

No it is not the case, a very foul inexcusable set of events (whatever number it was in the end, God knows in the end) happened that showed belief in the basic fabric of nation concept either was eroded enough, completely gone or was never there (esp. among those having and exerting the most power)....each possibility is bad in own way.

But we are ALL mortals, we are imperfect...we are granted only so much time on this world, and we know it and can't escape it.

Never forget that my friend....we are all quite brittle on some matters and we prefer to be that brittle out of convenience. Genuine great souls, that put such convenience aside...and quite inconveniently (to them) challenge every single thing around them and come to greater grand realisation are very rare among us....exceedingly rare.
 
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Better asked from your Modi , who in a ceremony during his Bangladesh tour said that former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee had played an active role in separating Bangladesh from Pakistan and he also openly admitted that he had also come to Delhi in 1971 to participate in the Satyagraha Movement launched by Jana Sangh as a volunteer to garner support for 1. the Mukti Bahini members who wear the Pakistani army uniforms and massacred and raped million innocent bangalies and west Pakistani was in east Pakistan.

The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize the Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of an Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds, and thousands of rapes and genocide. 2. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a vast theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by the Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of. The total figure, a mix of soldiers and civilians, was deliberately floated by Indians, and later by Bangladeshis to support their victimization. In Pakistan, a clever Bhutto used this for various reasons for his politics. No one ever wanted to clarify. This is the right time for both countries that sit together and start communication and do a meritious investigation of what happens and who is the real culprit behind million people massacred on both sides.


Spot on

and just the total number of soldiers were 43000 in total or 3 divisions

the 3M dead is such a non sense figure to date there has never been a UN fact finding report ..

Further India never even prosecuted a single Pakistani soldier.

they controlled the land where the alleged crimes took place and the alleged culprits for 2 years !

the fact there was never a genocide and therefore nothing to apologize about.
 
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a "sorry" means accepting Pakistan Army as aggressor, genocidal, legitimizing treason of Bengali traitors and declaring those harami Ibne haramis innocents.

Sorry means accepting some wrongs were done, and they were. Mistakes happened, that is why enemy found an opening.

More than that, mentality of our two people are totally different. Pakistan would be able to stay in the same country with Afghans, Tajiks, and Turkics, but not Bangladeshi people

I support Imran Khan if he wishes to issue a national apology, but it should only be verbal, we do not need to pay any reparations, etc. It was a legitimate war, now let's accept outcome and move on.

India is the big problem for both of us. I am glad China is helping Pakistan rid the bad blood which Iran and BD had against Pakistan and which India used again and again.
 
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Playing cricket with Bangladesh for me is enough. No point in anything larger than that. Even try religious reason .... hahaha .....

Just leave the ball in BD government court. Whatever ties they want, we are ready.

No use thinking more or less about it.

With China there, BD's anti-Pakistan sentiment will decrease significantly. It is not like they want to upset China at this moment.
 
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She will tow BD army line, or else end up like Mujib.

@Hakikat ve Hikmet Thoughts brother?
Money is sweeter than honey...

A man may forgive the murderer of his father, but not the loss of patrimony - Socrates

As for the Muslims in BD, they did the "100% closure" vis-à-vis Pak by eliminating the Mujib regime showing the utmost hatred toward everything he stood for. They hate India 10X more than the Paks do for they're 10X more in the receiving end. Muslim President Zia-ur Rehman, an ex Pak infantry/intelligence officer, wanted to emulate Pak. He went down via a RAW ops....
 
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