Absolutely appreciate your frankness. this is what I enjoy about this forum, we can exchange great ideas insights (minus the noise of chinese bots on their section)
this is exactly the issue - Let us take material sciences - in the education institutions, there will be engineering or research programs but how many can take it to next level because you dont have actual industries that can make use of it. Alloys and new materials are key for very high pressure blasts. In terms of artillery - let us for the moment forget about alloys - let us focus on basebleed projectiles. has anyone been looking to see propellent or further improvisation that can occur or even at a much lower level e.g. 76mm or 105mm level. This kind of research needs to start with baby feet. I dont see that happening. That is what makes it worrisome; people want the end product but dont realise what is going into it. Similarly on aircraft front - if you look at Super M... did we see any innovation in terms of next levels; in past 40 yrs; it just moved from one version to next - in fact i digress - your hockey sticks are more innovative in using composites vs PAC - just food for thought (Malik is my fav stick).
I would have loved to see based technology - let us take the much useless old barrels of older UK pounders and be used to research base projectiles.
Fortune favours those who are bold and willing to take inniatives; if there is an idea - it needs to be kept in wraps and added to priority of R&D project works. This is where the decoupling of R&D needs to happen. Monies need to be added for this work. Take CSIR or even Turkish institutions; they are getting a lot of funding from the govt; that is where incubation hubs are.... they are not in dodo brained general controlled institutions - you cannot think or have free thought - you are just a bot.
I digressed. I will write to put a small write up later on some work i did for G5/G6 long back.
I wish I could add something to this but you said all I wanted to and more, much better than I ever could have.
Pakistans military “industry” has just been settled at whatever the military needs from them. The bare minimum. And so are their foreign acquisitions. There’s no future proofing…even if we excuse the lack of progress so far, at least whatever they’ve made has given them some experience, the Al-Khalid, the JF-17, whatever else, I don’t see that experience being used to do enough research, because they feel like the research is too basic and won’t get them anything, but if no one ever starts then there’s no future in any of these projects.
The frankly non-ideal solution I see for this is the next generation of people reaching the top, it will be a slow process, even more so than what it has been so far, but eventually someone will get up there that will be more visionary and realize this, they’ll start it off and things will follow. I just hope it doesn’t come so late that the second cycle of Pakistani defense production starts just as the first one is going right now.
it’s like healthcare, caring about preventive healthcare, making yourself healthy so you never have to worry about being sick and going to the doctor, or never caring about preventive healthcare and then getting really sick and having to go to a doctor. Eventually Pakistan is gonna get sick, be it sanctions, geopolitical issues, whatever. Pakistan is not preparing for that so far, as it wasn’t prepared when sanctions hit it the first time and it was forced to make some progress in the 90s and early 2000s. We can’t have that, but we’re holding out on hope, at least there’s small glimmers of it in projects like AZM.
Thank you for your insight though. It is a discussion forum after all, and these are the kinds of opinions we need.
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