Pakistan’s army is building an arsenal of ”tiny” nuclear weapons—and it’s going to backfire

[AUz]

In that case.. all this Tactical Nukes is a waste of resources. Good luck at wasting your national resources.

How is it a waste of resources when it destroyed indian dreams of fighting a quick campaign to punish Pakistan but not to push the limits towards nuclear war?

Without NASR, indians (by miracle!) could've surprised us with a quick campaign on a smaller scale and inflicted a "punishment" on us without crossing our nuclear threshold.

Now, EVEN IF india gets a miracle--it would still lose or get annihilated. So Nasr is a great weapon system in our multi-layered defence mechanism and it has made our defence...literally..unbreakable!

 

[911]

Why would India invade Pakistan at first place? Unless terrorist attack, which can be done by an 'outside' power. Not good for the region.

 

[VCheng]

Why would India invade Pakistan at first place? Unless terrorist attack, which can be done by an 'outside' power. Not good for the region.

Nuclear armed nations cannot be attacked directly. However, they can collapse due to internal failures of governance and the economy. Just look at what happened to USSR.

 

[aanshu001]

So Pakistan's massive conventional military, our jets, bombs, AWACS, radars, ships, tanks, and so on are there so that indians won't be able to launch a "surprised" attack and we'll check mate indians before they get any successful conventional break-through. We have been successful in doing it and have NEVER failed since 1947 in this regard (talking about W.Pakistan strictly). Today, it is impossible for indians to launch any "surprise" attack because we have AWACS can can see 300km inside indian borders

And Pakistan can attack on India because Indian Satellite, AWACS, UAV, Recon Planes are dud they cannot see inside Pakistan despite less strategic depth (although they are based on much sophisticated tec and more in number) but useless against against a 60 km range of tactical nuke system.

Why Pakistan Army Generals are shouting or crying (tactical nuke) because they know they don't stand a chance against Indian might

And do you know A&N has 325 islands with total land area of these islands is approximately 8,073 km2(3,117 sq mi) and last one is just 150 km from Indonesia, Which one of your assets can track those islands or you are going to fire 325 nuclear tip missile

 

[VCheng]

And Pakistan can attack on India because Indian Satellite, AWACS, UAV, Recon Planes are dud they cannot see inside Pakistan despite less strategic depth (although they are based on much sophisticated tec and more in number) but useless against against a 60 km range of tactical nuke system.

Why Pakistan Army Generals are shouting or crying (tactical nuke) because they know they don't stand a chance against Indian might

And do you know A&N has 325 islands with total land area of these islands is approximately 8,073 km2(3,117 sq mi) and last one is just 150 km from Indonesia, Which one of your assets can track those islands or you are going to fire 325 nuclear tip missile

Pakistan's nuclear posture will remain defensive in all likelihood, as it has been from the start.

 

[aanshu001]

Pakistan's nuclear posture will remain defensive in all likelihood, as it has been from the start.

But always itching to be fire one on it's eastern border

How is it a waste of resources when it destroyed indian dreams of fighting a quick campaign to punish Pakistan but not to push the limits towards nuclear war?

Without NASR, indians (by miracle!) could've surprised us with a quick campaign on a smaller scale and inflicted a "punishment" on us without crossing our nuclear threshold.

Now, EVEN IF india gets a miracle--it would still lose or get annihilated. So Nasr is a great weapon system in our multi-layered defence mechanism and it has made our defence...literally..unbreakable!

Quite enough to give chill in spine of Pakistan's defense establishment, to start nuclear crying ( Hamko maroge to N-bomb mar denge, kasam se jhood nahi boal rahe hain)

 

[S.Y.A]

And Pakistan can attack on India because Indian Satellite, AWACS, UAV, Recon Planes are dud they cannot see inside Pakistan despite less strategic depth (although they are based on much sophisticated tec and more in number) but useless against against a 60 km range of tactical nuke system.

Why Pakistan Army Generals are shouting or crying (tactical nuke) because they know they don't stand a chance against Indian might

And do you know A&N has 325 islands with total land area of these islands is approximately 8,073 km2(3,117 sq mi) and last one is just 150 km from Indonesia, Which one of your assets can track those islands or you are going to fire 325 nuclear tip missile

Those Indian Satellite, AWACS, UAV, Recon Planes can stop not a ballistic missile. and we possess the same things(except sats), so no chance of india launching a surprise attack at all.
The islands you mentioned have no significant strategic value, Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta, Bangalore on the other hand are within range of Pakistani missiles.

 

[khail007]

The morons again thinking they will be celebrating in Lahore. Last time, what I know they were dragging their bloody @$$ in outskirts; though they attacked like cowards which is one of their basic instincts.

This time they won't live to see it bleeding nor will be able to drag .... if these miniaturised will blowback then why this Dehati Aurat is doing R@ndi Rona to their masters?

 

[aanshu001]

Those Indian Satellite, AWACS, UAV, Recon Planes can stop not a ballistic missile. and we possess the same things(except sats), so no chance of india launching a surprise attack at all.
The islands you mentioned have no significant strategic value, Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta, Bangalore on the other are within range of Pakistani missiles.

But those island can launch thermonuclear tip Agni-5 and India can track all Pakistan bases but can Pakistani AWACS system can track bases of Maharashtra, TN, AP, Gujarat etc well beyond 300 km reach.

India is seriously working on ABM system, Radars like Green Pine, Swordfish, laser system S-400, etc and what did Pakistan had, Even a single system to stop Su 30 MKI flying at 17,300 m (56,800 ft) at Mac 2.2

 

[illusion8]

Pakistan experiment is a doomed failure. .its neither a democracy...neither a Islamic state..neither a military state...its a mish mash of all this...The few elites are what's holding up pakistan foe their own benefits..while all social indicators are going south...They hop into beds of NATO, Muslim ummah..and now lately the Chinese Russian equation. .no one takes them seriously..except China who wants an alternative route to their underdeveloped West. .so that there is some resource security and use the pakistanis as a nuisance value against India.

The new war on terror is again a joke when terrorists who do not mean harm to pakistan are roaming freely and planning birthday bashes.

How is it a waste of resources when it destroyed indian dreams of fighting a quick campaign to punish Pakistan but not to push the limits towards nuclear war?

Without NASR, indians (by miracle!) could've surprised us with a quick campaign on a smaller scale and inflicted a "punishment" on us without crossing our nuclear threshold.

Now, EVEN IF india gets a miracle--it would still lose or get annihilated. So Nasr is a great weapon system in our multi-layered defence mechanism and it has made our defence...literally..unbreakable!

It boils down to nuisance value..its like the US wants to turn north Korea or Iran to rubble..but there is a loss factor..where even the death of a hundred US or south korean citizen's is more valuable than a million north Koreans....even when no one wants them around.

 

[Trisonics]

I do not understand why Pakistanis ride on this fake bravado while displaying deep victimization sentiments. Not one poster has made any sense of the article which does have pertinent points. No logical responses, no counter strategies..nada. This for me is a disturbing trend of a population that is effectively and systematically being dumb-ed down with inability to exercise one of Man's inherent but important trait, curiosity. Curiosity leads to questions which leads to reasoning. In this case, the army says Nasar is the ultimate weapon, an ultimate response, so much so that we will launch it when India reaches Mars and the Pakistani populace scream, "Hell Yeah!". Not one reason..not one question..

 

[Abdullah S.]

But those island can launch thermonuclear tip Agni-5 and India can track all Pakistan bases but can Pakistani AWACS system can track bases of Maharashtra, TN, AP, Gujarat etc well beyond 300 km reach.

India is seriously working on ABM system, Radars like Green Pine, Swordfish, laser system S-400, etc and what did Pakistan had, Even a single system to stop Su 30 MKI flying at 17,300 m (56,800 ft) at Mac 2.2

We made Shaheen 3 specifically for Andaman and Nicobar Islands. So don't you worry about us.

We can comfortably hit targets with our ballistic missiles and submarine launched Babur cruise missile even in Assam or Tamil Nadu, forget Maharashtra, Gujrat etc. Our on ground intelligence is always there, and we have complete access to Chinese military satellites over India, and we have military grade signals of Beidu.

We have AWACS and F-16 block 52s + JF-17s with AMRAM 120Cs and SD10s + HQ9s to counter any Indian aerial threat. I guess you're still living under a rock cuz Su30MKIs bubble burst a long time ago.

 

[S.Y.A]

But those island can launch thermonuclear tip Agni-5 and India can track all Pakistan bases but can Pakistani AWACS system can track bases of Maharashtra, TN, AP, Gujarat etc well beyond 300 km reach.

India is seriously working on ABM system, Radars like Green Pine, Swordfish, laser system S-400, etc and what did Pakistan had, Even a single system to stop Su 30 MKI flying at 17,300 m (56,800 ft) at Mac 2.2

whatever you can track, or not, you cannot stop a ballistic missile when it is launched this close to India. the recent tests of Pakistani missiles have shown that Pakistan has incorporated radar evading features in the missiles, for example continuously changing trajectory, which makes the missile difficult to track. and I have not even mentioned cruise missiles yet.

But those island can launch thermonuclear tip Agni-5 and India can track all Pakistan bases but can Pakistani AWACS system can track bases of Maharashtra, TN, AP, Gujarat etc well beyond 300 km reach.

India is seriously working on ABM system, Radars like Green Pine, Swordfish, laser system S-400, etc and what did Pakistan had, Even a single system to stop Su 30 MKI flying at 17,300 m (56,800 ft) at Mac 2.2

2ndly, you should really read something about Mutually assured destruction. This is what it is.

 

[aanshu001]

We made Shaheen 3 specifically for Andaman and Nicobar Islands. So don't you worry about us.

We can comfortably hit targets with our ballistic missiles and submarine launched Babur cruise missile even in Assam, forget Maharashtra, Gujrat etc. Our on ground intelligence is always there, and we have complete access to Chinese military satellites over India, and we have military grade signals of Beidu.

which of your submarine is going to reach on the cost of Bengal by passing all ASW assets of IN without any support on it own good luck. Speed of Agosta 90B is 12 knots (22 km/h; 14 mph) surfaced, 20.5 knots (38.0 km/h; 23.6 mph) submerged , 10.5 knots (19.4 km/h; 12.1 mph) submerged (snort/ AIP)

First test fire Babur from submarine.
Oh! China is giving you Satellite cover and what about Indian access on GLONASS.

Your ground intelligence and what about your entire military, politicians & media crying about RAW assets and their hand in every attack on Pakistan soil

How many Shaheen 3 are you going to fire on a group of 325 island

 

[Chika_Pika]

Pakistan's nuclear posture will remain defensive in all likelihood, as it has been from the start.

Sir, correct me if I am wrong but Pakistan is always offensive force in all 3and1/2 indo pak wars

47 war started when
Tribal forces fromPakistan attacked and occupied parts of the princely state forcing the Maharajah to sign the Agreement to the accession of the princely state to the Dominion of India to get Indian military aid

65 war started following Pakistan'sOperation Gibraltar, which was designed to infiltrate forces into Jammu and Kashmir
71 war started After a large scalepre-emptive strike by Pakistan on Indian forward bases
99 Kargil war started after Pakistani troops infiltrated across the Line of Control(LoC) and occupied Indian territory mostly in the Kargil district