Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Interceptor]

The money will be used for R&D of the Chinese AEW&Cs. I would like to just give a hint that we spent only in the millions range for the development of the JF-17.. just wonder! We have saved more than that.

I can back that up, Jane's reported that Pakistan and China are working on a AWACS together another JV I say, this was back in November 2006.

 

[ARSENAL6]

I usume that the Sino-Pak AWACS will not be bigger than the Beiong version

It will be say 20 meters in length ?

Correct ? or are both China and PAkistan building bigger planes rivaling 747 ?

And speavkin of ACAW what about detecting stealth bombers any news ?

 

[Adnan pakistani]

Hey ! Thats true that the Phalcon Radar system is a far more superior AWACS System then the Erieye , What i suggest is PAF should go for the even more Advanced American WedgeTail AWACS System which the Americans have made for the Royal Austrailian Airforce .

I think this acquisition would be a big blow for the IAF.

 

[Adnan pakistani]

The only Solution for the Phalcon is the American Wedgetail ,Its a Far more superior system then the Phalcon . PAF go for the Wedgetail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Neo]

Hey ! Thats true that the Phalcon Radar system is a far more superior AWACS System then the Erieye , What i suggest is PAF should go for the even more Advanced American WedgeTail AWACS System which the Americans have made for the Royal Austrailian Airforce .

I think this acquisition would be a big blow for the IAF.

Phalcon and Erieye are two different platforms, the former being an AEW&CS and the latter and advanced AEW system.

Phalcon on paper is superior to the Erieye which does not neccessarily mean that IAF will have an overall advantage over PAF in this field. Erieye will be inducted in larger numbers than the Phalcon, i.e. 7:3 and will provide an intensive datalink to PAF.
Erieye is largely considered as a stop-gap measure that will enable us to improve technology and performence of the future Sino-Pak AEW&CS JV wich currently is under development and should be completed within next five years. This will be a true answer to the Phalcon or any western design.

PAF evaluated US designs, the E-2C Hawkeye was offered by the US but we deliberately declined the offer and selected the Erieye for political reasons.
Only later we would learn about the Sino-Pak JV wich is already in advanced stage of development.

 

[Neo]

The only Solution for the Phalcon is the American Wedgetail ,Its a Far more superior system then the Phalcon . PAF go for the Wedgetail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, this would not be wise because US weapons will remain a subject to santions and embargoes and we can't afford to ground an expensive platform like the AWACS. China is leaping forward in terms of technology and she's far more reliable source and a true ally.
Lets stick with the current JV.

 

[Keysersoze]

Phalcon and Erieye are two different platforms, the former being an AEW&CS and the latter and advanced AEW system.

Phalcon on paper is superior to the Erieye which does not neccessarily mean that IAF will have an overall advantage over PAF in this field. Erieye will be inducted in larger numbers than the Phalcon, i.e. 7:3 and will provide an intensive datalink to PAF.
Erieye is largely considered as a stop-gap measure that will enable us to improve technology and performence of the future Sino-Pak AEW&CS JV wich currently is under development and should be completed within next five years. This will be a true answer to the Phalcon or any western design.

PAF evaluated US designs, the E-2C Hawkeye was offered by the US but we deliberately declined the offer and selected the Erieye for political reasons.
Only later we would learn about the Sino-Pak JV wich is already in advanced stage of development.

Don't forget the three hawkeye 2000's on the p-3 platform.....those platforms are being inducted as well.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Here is an example for those who don;t know what a wedge tail AWACs looks like

 

[hoodhood1]

In this day and age of Jet Aircrafts, PAF are buying Saab 2000, which are twin engine turboprop. These Aircrafts have come to Mid Life point after serving with some commercial airlines in cold climates. There are only 52 such Aircrafts left in the world and are no longer being produced.
PAF should have bought few Emberar 195 with the same system.

 

[Bull]

Phalcon on paper is superior to the Erieye which does not neccessarily mean that IAF will have an overall advantage over PAF in this field.

Erieye will be inducted in larger numbers than the Phalcon, i.e. 7:3 and will provide an intensive datalink to PAF.

You mean for every 3 Phalcons you will have 7 Erieye, well IAF is extending the order from 3 to 6 by this fiscal. So will PAF have 14 AEWs. 14 AEWs for 150 - 250 JF-17, and 96 F-16.

14 AEW will require a good protection around itself, say for eg if they need 5 - 6 planes around it that takes away 100 planes from the theatre of operation and leaves PAF with just 300 planes to operate against IAF and IN.

 

[intruder]

Erieye will be inducted in larger numbers than the Phalcon, i.e. 7:3

Bro, can you please provide us some link for above ..

 

[Keysersoze]

You mean for every 3 Phalcons you will have 7 Erieye, well IAF is extending the order from 3 to 6 by this fiscal. So will PAF have 14 AEWs. 14 AEWs for 150 - 250 JF-17, and 96 F-16.

14 AEW will require a good protection around itself, say for eg if they need 5 - 6 planes around it that takes away 100 planes from the theatre of operation and leaves PAF with just 300 planes to operate against IAF and IN.

Care to provide a link for the above? I have seen a article saying that the IAF would like another 3 but nothing else.

 

[irfan1173]

AoA
Didnt we reduce the order for Erieye from 6 to 5? Remember reading it couple of months back or something.

 

[Bull]

Care to provide a link for the above? I have seen a article saying that the IAF would like another 3 but nothing else.

Give me some time i shall post.

 

[Keysersoze]

Bro, can you please provide us some link for above ..

heres is a link for the Erieye......

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...-aewc-contract-with-pakistan-02377/#more-2377

also here is a link for the Hawkeye 2000's

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2007/Pakistan_07-03.pdf

As to the reduction in numbers it would probably be from 7 to 6......They probably wanna invest more in the Chinese system.