Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[falcone]

Does this mean the PAF is going to receive less aircraft? Please elaborate (anyone).

Saab [to] renegotiate Surveillance contract with Pakistan
Saab AB | May 29, 2007

With reference to the sale of Saab Airborne Surveillance Systems to Pakistan, the customer has for financial reasons and in accordance with the original contract, asked to renegotiate part of the contract concerning a reduction of the number of systems. Together with Saab terms and conditions then have been agreed, concerning a reduction. Saab and the Government of Pakistan continue as planned with the delivery of the system.

As a result of the renegotiation, the order value is decreased by approximately SEK 1.35 billion. Income will decrease proportionally to the volume change, but other commercial terms and conditions will remain unchanged. Concerning the fiscal year 2007 there is no impact on turnover or income as a result of the new conditions.

The Saab Airborne Surveillance System includes Saab 2000 turboprop aircraft equipped with Saab Microwave Systems airborne radar system ERIEYE and associated support equipment.

 

[EagleEyes]

It was reported a while back that unecessary things will be removed. Thats what it is. Plus, Chinese AWACs has influenced this decision a little bit.

 

[Neo]

Erieye is basically a close gap purchase, the backbone of future Awacs will be a Sino-Pak JV expected to be ready by 2010-12.

 

[EagleEyes]

Its not something that can be called a close gap measure. It is a permanent solution with the Chinese AEW&Cs. Also... Erieye is only going to help the joint venture.

 

[Neo]

Don't get me wrone webby, its a very capable platform that will serve PAF for atleast two decades but its a AEW platform, what we need is an AEW&CS from a friendly and more reliable source.
That is obviously China.

 

[falcone]

Thank you both for your very timely and enlightening replies.

 

[EagleEyes]

The money will be used for R&D of the Chinese AEW&Cs. I would like to just give a hint that we spent only in the millions range for the development of the JF-17.. just wonder! We have saved more than that.

 

[BATMAN]

Does this mean the PAF is going to receive less aircraft? Please elaborate (anyone).

Saab [to] renegotiate Surveillance contract with Pakistan
Saab AB | May 29, 2007.

Perhaps this piece of news help answer your question.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...ab-2000-aewc-contract-with-pakistan/index.php

Sweden Finalizes Saab 2000 AEW&C Contract With Pakistan
Posted 30-May-2007 10:12

Saab recently finalized a Skr 8.3 billion (approx. $1.15 billion at then-rate conversion) provisional contract to supply S100B Argus turboprop airborne early warning (AEW&C) systems to Pakistan. According to earlier reports at Pakistani Defence , Pakistan will acquire 14 SAAB 2000 aircraft from Sweden: 7 of these aircraft will be dedicated for the PAF's AEW&C role as Argus aircraft, while the remaining 7 will be acquired by the PIA airline to replace its fleet of 11 aging and largely-grounded Fokker short-haul turboprop aircraft [DID note: the mix now looks like 6 and 6].

The Saab aircraft beat a number of other competitors, including Bombardier's Dash-8/Q200 and US offers to sell the E-2C Hawkeye system. The Argus AEW&C award also caps a 25-year quest by the Pakistani Air force - but the buy was recently reduced for financial reasons....

 

[malik ateeq]

daer me read some web radar system that on saab air craft have range 500km+ and track 500 to 1000 target at a time.he had three dircation to track targat.each dircation cover 120 degree.some NATO country millitry person said that radar use on saab very difficult to brack or jam that system with AWAC/AEW&C coz Awac have track range 450 km only. so saab system see frist and counter him before Awac do some thing else.

 

[Neo]

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Pakistan purchases six Swedish aircraft

LAHORE: After years of haggling and delays caused by political differences, Pakistan has finally closed a deal to obtain six AWACS aircraft from Sweden, reported Strategypage.com on Friday. The purchased systems is a SAAB 2000 airliner mounting a Swedish Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which consists of thousands of tiny radars that can be independently aimed in different directions. This is similar to the AESA radar used on the American JSTARS aircraft, enabling it to locate vehicles moving on the ground. Pakistan is getting the six SAAB 2000s with the Ericsson PS-890 Erieye radar and another SAAB 2000 configured for regular (fifty seats) passenger service for $1 billion.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\06\02\story_2-6-2007_pg7_49

 

[Interceptor]

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Pakistan purchases six Swedish aircraft

LAHORE: After years of haggling and delays caused by political differences, Pakistan has finally closed a deal to obtain six AWACS aircraft from Sweden, reported Strategypage.com on Friday. The purchased systems is a SAAB 2000 airliner mounting a Swedish Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which consists of thousands of tiny radars that can be independently aimed in different directions. This is similar to the AESA radar used on the American JSTARS aircraft, enabling it to locate vehicles moving on the ground. Pakistan is getting the six SAAB 2000s with the Ericsson PS-890 Erieye radar and another SAAB 2000 configured for regular (fifty seats) passenger service for $1 billion.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\06\02\story_2-6-2007_pg7_49

Reported from strategypage.com that site bias and weird, they make imaginary reports against Pakistan.

 

[EagleEyes]

Defence Industry Times is an unreliable source too.

 

[ahussains]

well what to prove???PHALCON IS THE WORLDS MOST ADVANCED AIRBORNE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM...even more advanced than NATO's E-3 C sentry which uses machanically rotating antenna(rotodome) so let alone eyrie...


this link will prove that phalcon is the worlds most advanced awacs.(read carefully)



http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/phalcon.htm

Did u people knows the equipment which is used by the indians are always the best in the World even American and Westrens can not use these things same like the MIG 21 how many indians lost them when they are in the Air ... They are also one of the Best planes india ever equired ?

 

[Interceptor]

Jane's Defence Mag, 06 June 2007

 

[Always Neutral]

Did u people knows the equipment which is used by the indians are always the best in the World even American and Westrens can not use these things same like the MIG 21 how many indians lost them when they are in the Air ... They are also one of the Best planes india ever equired ?

The Phalcons were the same aircrafts that the Chinese wanted and nearly got until Big Brother stepped in. So I guess they must be state of art and better then the swedish ones. No fears in two years the ESM duels will be fought between the AWACS of India and Pakistan without violating air space just like it happened in the Cold war times and the results will slowly trickle down to us here and all of us will know who the winner is ! Good thing about AWAC wars is that they can be fought without countries going to war. I look forward to hear comments of our erudite friends in Pakistan and India who serve on these AWACs in the near future.

Regards