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Hi,

The Paf almost got away with it the first time---let the enemy come in and get out---even though the enemy had DECLARED INTENT TO STRIKE in advance---.

what should have been considered an ACT OF WAR by India on Pakistan---Paf inteionally took it as a violation of LOC---and so did the DSG ISPR.

But neither did the Paf and nor did the ISPR expected the angry reaction from pakistani public from all floras of life---. They literally got smacked hard by the public---.

For that reason---they had to re-think their strategies because they found out that the Pakistani public had gotten thru their lies and deceit---and demanded actions---.

Even though the Air Chief Marshall was instructed by the PM ahead to time to give no leeway to the enemy---he opted to play with a lackadaisical attitude just like everything was running like always---.

The reaction of his officers in the control room was like ordinary---no urgency visible---no visible action and confrontation plan ahead of time.

Actually the ACM and his team had no concept that any violation after the enemy's intent to strike action across the LOC is not a violation of LOC or international border---but it is an Act Of War---.

Nobody in the pakistani air force war room had any idea of the circumstantial change that had taken place after the Indians had declared intent to strike---. They had been living in the time of Nawaz---Zardari---Musharraf and the 90's.

No more---. Things have to change---. Order of operation has to change---the perception has to change---.

If one wing of the military is not informed of any action---and they have not been informed---once they find out about any coming action---they will have to be prepared and be ready to fly support---even though they had not been asked for---.

The ideology of " I am My Brother's Keeper " would be upfront and foremost---.
 
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Chacha mastan take a break man. PAF is the only air Force in 21st century that has an air to air kill in it name and JF17 is the only jet in 21st that is battle tested for Air to Air kill.

Digest this.
 
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Hi,

The Paf almost got away with it the first time---let the enemy come in and get out---even though the enemy had DECLARED INTENT TO STRIKE in advance---.

what should have been considered an ACT OF WAR by India on Pakistan---Paf inteionally took it as a violation of LOC---and so did the DSG ISPR.

But neither did the Paf and nor did the ISPR expected the angry reaction from pakistani public from all floras of life---. They literally got smacked hard by the public---.

For that reason---they had to re-think their strategies because they found out that the Pakistani public had gotten thru their lies and deceit---and demanded actions---.

Even though the Air Chief Marshall was instructed by the PM ahead to time to give no leeway to the enemy---he opted to play with a lackadaisical attitude just like everything was running like always---.

The reaction of his officers in the control room was like ordinary---no urgency visible---no visible action and confrontation plan ahead of time.

Actually the ACM and his team had no concept that any violation after the enemy's intent to strike action across the LOC is not a violation of LOC or international border---but it is an Act Of War---.

Nobody in the pakistani air force war room had any idea of the circumstantial change that had taken place after the Indians had declared intent to strike---. They had been living in the time of Nawaz---Zardari---Musharraf and the 90's.

No more---. Things have to change---. Order of operation has to change---the perception has to change---.

If one wing of the military is not informed of any action---and they have not been informed---once they find out about any coming action---they will have to be prepared and be ready to fly support---even though they had not been asked for---.

The ideology of " I am My Brother's Keeper " would be upfront and foremost---.

You are a disgusting man. I read your posts yeaterday. So anti paf that you were firmly in the indian camp. All day you were probably drunk because your boys got bitch slapped and now you are back with your bile
 
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First you was saying they arent doing anything when they did something you was happy now your upset again make up your mind
 
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I firmly stand with mastan khan. It was the Pakistani public reaction which has the airforce grow - - - - - - -

Okay if we had followed Indian jets on day one of engagement the fate which India saw today would have been ours. Pakistani public reaction was foolish because wars are not fought with emotions but brains. India lost their jets because they made the mistake of following our strike party.
 
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Marry him
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Okay if we had followed Indian jets on day one of engagement the fate which India saw today would have been ours. Pakistani public reaction was foolish because wars are not fought with emotions but brains. India lost their jets because they made the mistake of following our strike party.
Bro we were afraid of the precedents set in Kargil salal and obl hence all this hoo haa
 
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Bro we were afraid of the precedents set in Kargil salal and obl hence all this hoo haa

Bro Modi needed this for elections. Look at India nothing is happening good there from Farmers to small business 90% of their population is in messed up condition. War is the only way for them to survive. They cannot feed so many humans and they need war to get hold of their population. Please open your eyes, India once exporter of agriculture is now importer.
 
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Mastan saab, with all due respect, may be it is YOU who got a slap in the face. You - who takes every opportunity to endlessly criticise PAF and the JF17.

Now I dont want to question your loyalty, but is it possible that you are actually disappointed that PAF made us all proud and the JF17 proved to be the machine we had hoped it was?
 
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Bro Modi needed this for elections. Look at India nothing is happening good there from Farmers to small business 90% of their population is in messed up condition. War is the only way for them to survive. They cannot feed so many humans and they need war to get hold of their population. Please open your eyes, India once exporter of agriculture is now importer.

We want peace in asia but not at the cost of our integrity. They better learn to behave and come out of their back hawk down mentality

otherwise if someone is so adamant on pushing us against the wall - - - - - - - - well vicho'n lung jaava dy :butcher:
 
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Okay if we had followed Indian jets on day one of engagement the fate which India saw today would have been ours. Pakistani public reaction was foolish because wars are not fought with emotions but brains. India lost their jets because they made the mistake of following our strike party.


Even if I agree what you said, I also agree with what Mastakhan said.

Why we would have been in IndiaS situation? It’s because :
We are not in position to dictate anything and that should change.
Had the Indians known what would be our response they would never have done what they did.

Everyone knows what do Asian hornet so you know you must not enter in their 5 meters of confort
 
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I read most of Mk's post, he is not anti Pak or PAF, he just has his opinion as to how it should have been and or should be. He is not criticizing for the sake of it, he usually makes some good points, however sometimes little too over board, but as Arm Chair General we are all entitled too.
 
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The thing is, Mastan Khan is the devil's advocate for PAF. He is the criticism PAF badly needs. He actually has some very valid points on PAF's procurement decisions, its historical acts and its leaderships decisions.

In th present instance, whichever out of the various possible reasons lead to the PAF action, we must give credit where it s due @Mastan Khan sb. In matters such as these, emotions can often cloud judgement. PAF took decisive action and the speed of the response was probably the one factor that surprised the enemy and led to the resounding success that it was.

I should add that the by the looks of it the IAF was absolutely not expecting PAF aircraft to cross over and strike them. And they were so sure of their superiority in the air that they went after PAF planes across the border. It is interesting to think why they were so (over-)confident of their ability to shoot down PAF planes.
 
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