Pakistani Nationalism

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Still feel we need our people to become a warrior like nation and fully prepared to back our armed forces in any confrontation.

Trust me, it will happen if it hasn't already. In fact the whole world knows about it. When it comes down to it, our people are probably more fearsome than the Army.....lol. When the neocons were destroyong Iraq and Afghanistan, some of them wanted to do the same to Pakistan as we along with the Iranians were next on their hit list. But the American military high command warned the neo cons that if you thought Iraq was bad, then Pakistan would be 100× worst for obvious reasons.......lol
It's the same reason why the indians are reluctant to attack Pakistan.

 

[Rafi]

The new nationalism has nothing to do with India or afghan. It is entirely positive and not in opposition to anyone. And I fck ing love it.

 

[T-123456]

Nationalism is not linked to religion. In Islam, nationalism does not have any place but patriotism does. The Two Nation theory on which Pakistan was created also tells us that all Muslims are a single nation. It means that we should not differentiate between ourselves by our country rather all Muslim countries no matter where they exist on the map are a single nation.
Every nationalist is a patriot but every Patriot is not a nationalist.

If all Muslims are a single nation then why are they killing each other all the time for ridiculous reasons,arent they all members of a single nation?
Maybe you should try to come back to reality.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Trust me, it will happen if it hasn't already. In fact the whole world knows about it. When it comes down to it, our people are probably more fearsome than the Army.....lol. When the neocons were destroyong Iraq and Afghanistan, some of them wanted to do the same to Pakistan as we along with the Iranians were next on their hit list. But the American military high command warned the neo cons that if you thought Iraq was bad, then Pakistan would be 100× worst for obvious reasons.......lol
It's the same reason why the indians are reluctant to attack Pakistan.

That's probably because Pakistan has a strong tough army backed with nuclear weapons. The tribes from FATA are fearless, citizens from the rest of the nation need to learn from their fierce fighting ways. When I visited Rawalpindi a few years ago I noticed the men are naturally tall and strong but very calm people.

 

[The Sandman]

Maybe you should try to come back to reality.

Majority of Pakistanis need's to come back to reality and i guess the process has started.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Trust me, it will happen if it hasn't already. In fact the whole world knows about it. When it comes down to it, our people are probably more fearsome than the Army.....lol. When the neocons were destroyong Iraq and Afghanistan, some of them wanted to do the same to Pakistan as we along with the Iranians were next on their hit list. But the American military high command warned the neo cons that if you thought Iraq was bad, then Pakistan would be 100× worst for obvious reasons.......lol
It's the same reason why the indians are reluctant to attack Pakistan.

After watching a week long DOCUMENTRY about partition, Tragic horrific stories emerged of how trains were attacked by gangs of Hindus and Sikhs carrying the first Muslim migrants travelling to the new state of Pakistan. These Pakistanis were slaughtered, women raped, young girls abducted, children butchered. Without being biased certain sections of the innocent Hindu and Sikhs communities also suffered the same fate. We can never allow this to happen again, Pakistan has an army blessed by Almighty Allah to defend its border but our people should still be prepared. Our brothers and sister in Indonesianan & Malaysia, although very peaceful and friendly learn a specific self defence art which can save their life if attacked. Silat has become apart of their culture and learning. It is taught in many schools.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

After watching a week long DOCUMENTRY about partition, Tragic horrific stories emerged of how trains were attacked by gangs of Hindus and Sikhs carrying the first Muslim migrants travelling to the new state of Pakistan. These Pakistanis were slaughtered, women raped, young girls abducted, children butchered. Without being biased certain sections of the innocent Hindu and Sikhs communities also suffered the same fate. We can never allow this to happen again, Pakistan has an army blessed by Almighty Allah to defend its border but our people should still be prepared. Our brothers and sister in Indonesianan & Malaysia, although very peaceful and friendly learn a specific self defence art which can save their life if attacked. Silat has become apart of their culture and learning. It is taught in many schools.

It was mainly the sikhs. We had a holocaust committed against us by them. The sikhs tried to eliminate our race and nation from the face of the earth............they failed. The creation and survival of Pakistan is a miracle. As time goes on, more and more Pakistanis are realizing that our future lies with China, Turkey and the nations West of us of whom we share the most in common with. I am happy with this development.

 

[RealNapster]

Still feel we need our people to become a warrior like nation and fully prepared to back our armed forces in any confrontation.

We will take care of this.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

It was mainly the sikhs. We had a holocaust committed against us by them. The sikhs tried to eliminate our race and nation from the face of the earth............they failed. The creation and survival of Pakistan is a miracle. As time goes on, more and more Pakistanis are realizing that our future lies with China, Turkey and the nations West of us of whom we share the most in common with. I am happy with this development.

Yes the Sikhs initiated the assault as they bombed a train carrying innocent Muslims travelling to Pakistan through Sikh occupied Punjab. However I do not hold the Sikh faith responsible as Pakistan is home to important Sikh Gurdwaras which are protected by our state. Still firmly believe our people need to establish a strict fighting discipline to frighten the enemy of their misguided plans. I agree, Pakistan needs to forge closer ties with China, Turkey Azerbaijan, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and African states. SAARC is a dead horse a puppet show orchestrated by Hindustan and its miniature provinces such as Bangladesh, AFG & Nepal. Turkey is a nation that stands out for me and millions of other Pakistanis. Turkish language, culture arts and food should be welcomed with open arms. We have much in common with the Turks, much more than the Arabs.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes the Sikhs initiated the assault as they bombed a train carrying innocent Muslims travelling to Pakistan through Sikh occupied Punjab. However I do not hold the Sikh faith responsible as Pakistan is home to important Sikh Gurdwaras which are protected by our state. Still firmly believe our people need to establish a strict fightin discipline to frighten the enemy of their misguided plans. I agree Pakistan needs to forge closer ties with China, Turkey Azerbaijan, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and African states. SAARC is a dead horse a puppet show orchestrated by Hinduatan and its miniature provinces such as Bangladesh, AFG & Nepal.

SAARC is more dead and useless than the African Union. I don't hate the Sikh faith per se but I hate the indian sikh community with a passion. They committed a holocaust against my people which they have never been held accountable for. They thoroughly deserved 1984. Too bad they are now a worthless, insignificant, small and inferior entity on the world stage.

 

[Narcissist]

SAARC is more dead and useless than the African Union. I don't hate the Sikh faith per se but I hate the indian sikh community with a passion. They committed a holocaust against my people which they have never been held accountable for. They thoroughly deserved 1984. Too bad they are now a worthless, insignificant, small and inferior entity on the world stage.

Alot of them have fucked off to Canada. Here they cry about 1984 24/7, have actual khalistani terrorist group supporters, and have probably been performing sexual favors to Trudeau jr. TJ even apologized for some teeny tiny event that killed 20 sikhs that happened almost a century ago. Some boat was denied entry or something.

His party in Canada has a high concentration of condom-heads, but very low Muslims. I'm not sure there's even 1 Pakistani in there.

Any dual passport Canadian here needs to think twice or thrice before voting for a sikh lover like Trudeau jr next elections.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Alot of them have fucked off to Canada. Here they cry about 1984 24/7, have actual khalistani terrorist group supporters, and have probably been performing sexual favors to Trudeau jr. TJ even apologized for some teeny tiny event that killed 20 sikhs that happened almost a century ago. Some boat was denied entry or something.

His party in Canada has a high concentration of condom-heads, but very low Muslims. I'm not sure there's even 1 Pakistani in there.

Any dual passport Canadian here needs to think twice or thrice before voting for a sikh lover like Trudeau jr next elections.

The sikhs in canada and elsewhere in the world are a meaningless, irrelevant, inferior and wothless entity on the world. The brilliant & glorious events of 1984 have ensured that there WILL NEVER be a sikh homeland or nation ever. There will never be a sikh consciousness or meaningful entity on the world stage ever. The aim of their religion is to wipe out Islam and Muslims. There are no more than 27 millions sikhs worldwide and there is not even 1 sikh country. There are nearly 2 billion Muslims worldwide and there are around 60 Muslim countries. That alone tells who the REAL winners are

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Alot of them have fucked off to Canada. Here they cry about 1984 24/7, have actual khalistani terrorist group supporters, and have probably been performing sexual favors to Trudeau jr. TJ even apologized for some teeny tiny event that killed 20 sikhs that happened almost a century ago. Some boat was denied entry or something.

His party in Canada has a high concentration of condom-heads, but very low Muslims. I'm not sure there's even 1 Pakistani in there.

Any dual passport Canadian here needs to think twice or thrice before voting for a sikh lover like Trudeau jr next elections.

In the UK there are many Indian Muslims from the Gujurat state who have strong family links to Canada. What's the population of Pakistanis

Alot of them have fucked off to Canada. Here they cry about 1984 24/7, have actual khalistani terrorist group supporters, and have probably been performing sexual favors to Trudeau jr. TJ even apologized for some teeny tiny event that killed 20 sikhs that happened almost a century ago. Some boat was denied entry or something.

His party in Canada has a high concentration of condom-heads, but very low Muslims. I'm not sure there's even 1 Pakistani in there.

Any dual passport Canadian here needs to think twice or thrice before voting for a sikh lover like Trudeau jr next elections.

whats the population of Pakiyanis in Canada? I know a few Indian Muslims from the Gujurat state who have strong family ties to Canada.

 

[Narcissist]

In the UK there are many Indian Muslims from the Gujurat state who have strong family links to Canada. What's the population of Pakistanis

whats the population of Pakiyanis in Canada? I know a few Indian Muslims from the Gujurat state who have strong family ties to Canada.

Approximately 215K-220K per my estimates.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Nationalism is not linked to religion. In Islam, nationalism does not have any place but patriotism does. The Two Nation theory on which Pakistan was created also tells us that all Muslims are a single nation. It means that we should not differentiate between ourselves by our country rather all Muslim countries no matter where they exist on the map are a single nation.
Every nationalist is a patriot but every Patriot is not a nationalist.

You know where this thread will go by replying to that post.
@Azlan Haider @LA se Karachi

The Two Nation Theory on the basis of which Pakistan was created tells us that Muslims living in British India were a single nation. The whole idea of Indian Muslim Nationalism developed by Sir Syed and Aligarians that ultimately led to the creation of Pakistan was inspired by the political theories of John Locke, Milton and Thomas Paine. Orthodox Muslims had rejected this idea outright.

Bitterly opposed to this idea were people like Jamaluddin Afghani and Maududi .. Afghani severely criticized Sir Syed for the rejection of the idea of Pan-Islamism by the latter, and Mullah Maududi described the idea of Muslim Nationalism as unlikely as a ”chaste prostitute” ... (Abul Ala Maudoodi, Mussalman Aur Maujooda Syasi Kashmakash, quoted in K. K.Aziz, The Making of Pakistan, p. 148.)




Afghani was in India from 1879 to 1883, detained in Hyderabad for his political activities against the British. He was approached by the so called Ulama to give a fatwa declaring Sir Syed a heretic. Afghani’s fatwa condemned Sir Syed as a collaborator, who threw off his religion, converted to Christianity, and claimed that all the prophets were Necharis and did not believe in God (The Fatwa was published first in Persian in 1881 in Hyderabad, then in Urdu in 1884 in Calcutta, and in Arabic in 1885 from Beirut).


We chose Afghani and Maududi over Sir Syed and Jinnah .. In Pakistan, Jinnah and Sir Syed are held in high regard, but their ideological opponents (i.e, Afghani and Maududi) are followed by the vast majority of Pakistanis ... This "contradiction" has resulted from the state-sponsored religious-chauvinistic indoctrination via distortion .