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BBC News - Pakistani intelligence publicly accused of kidnapping

A woman in Pakistani-administered Kashmir has taken the unusual step of publicly accusing the intelligence services of kidnapping her husband.

It is thought that Qazi Khushal was abducted because he renounced the insurgency in Indian-administered Kashmir in the mid-1990s.

The uprising - analysts say - has always been supported by Pakistani intelligence who do not want it to end.

But an intelligence official said he was "not aware" of the case details.

Qazi Khushal was, according to his wife, arrested near an army post two weeks ago and has not been since since.

While such kidnappings are believed to be commonplace in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, few if anybody affected by them has dared speak out so stridently and so publicly.

This is believed to be one of the first times that the intelligence agencies have been directly accused of carrying out such a crime.

Few cases are reported to the police - or challenged in the courts - because people are fearful that they or their relatives may be harmed as a result.


The claims have been made by Shahnaz Akhtar, 35, a school teacher who lives in a refugee camp near the regional capital Muzaffarabad.

She told the BBC that her husband disappeared the day after his arrest, when he was brought to a hospital in the city for a "heart condition".

Ms Akhtar said that her husband was returning to Muzaffarabad on his motorbike when he was arrested at an army checkpoint.

"A friend of my husband's rang me up to tell me my husband had been admitted to a hospital," Ms Akhtar told the BBC.

"I went to the hospital and walked right up to his bed but some men in plain clothes rushed towards us and stopped us from talking to each other. They pushed me out of the ward," she said.

"I went there again the next morning but his bed was empty. No-one has told me what happened to him or where he was taken."

Muzaffarabad Deputy Commissioner Ansar Yaqoob said that he was "not aware of the case" and could not comment.

The couple crossed into the Pakistani side of Kashmir from Indian-administered Kashmir in 1990, when the separatist insurgency there was at its height.
 
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With all the denials by Pakistan regarding its backing of insurgency in Kashmir, how will Pakistan deny this charge??????

ISI, it is your turn to deny the charge.

May God bless the lady and good luck to the guy kidnapped!!!!! :fie:
 
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With all the denials by Pakistan regarding its backing of insurgency in Kashmir, how will Pakistan deny this charge??????

ISI, it is your turn to deny the charge.

God bless the lady and good luck to the guy kidnapped!!!!! :fie:

But if kidnapping is not proved then what charge does it have to deny?
 
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With some proof?

if speaking out publicly and accusing is not enough proof...then you pakistanis also have no damn proof for the accusation against indian forces.....all you rely on is some random kashmiri frothing his mouth out.....

what is sauce for goose should be sauce for gander too.....
 
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if speaking our publicly and accusing is not enough proof...then you pakistanis have absolutely no damn proof against indian forces too.....all you rely on is some random kashmiri frothing his mouth out.....

what is sauce for goose should be sauce for gander too.....

Speaking out publicly by a woman whose husband is missing. Now if the husband comes and says hes been held captive by Shuja Pasha that would be something.

She can say Mickey Mouse has kidnapped my husband. Won't make it true till she presents some evidence to back that accusation.
 
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Speaking out publicly by a woman whose husband is missing. Now if the husband comes and says hes been held captive by Shuja Pasha that would be something.

She can say Mickey Mouse has kidnapped my husband. Won't make it true till she presents some evidence to back that accusation.

similarly......just because some geelani says a lakh kashmiri muslims have been killed..thousands have gone missing, thousands have been raped does not make it true.....let him find the bodies of all the lakh killed, let those thousands who have been missing come and say they had been kidnapped by indian forces...let those thousands of women who were alleged to be raped provide proof that they have indeed been raped by indian sec forces.....then that would be something......


similarly we can say mickey mouse is responsible for all the missing persons and rape....wont make it true unless some one provides the evidence and proof for those accusations....


im just applying the same frame of reference....if you want your version to be accepted...then you gotta accept my version too.....
 
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BBC News - Pakistani intelligence publicly accused of kidnapping

A woman in Pakistani-administered Kashmir has taken the unusual step of publicly accusing the intelligence services of kidnapping her husband.

It is thought that Qazi Khushal was abducted because he renounced the insurgency in Indian-administered Kashmir in the mid-1990s.

The uprising - analysts say - has always been supported by Pakistani intelligence who do not want it to end.

But an intelligence official said he was "not aware" of the case details.

Qazi Khushal was, according to his wife, arrested near an army post two weeks ago and has not been since since.

While such kidnappings are believed to be commonplace in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, few if anybody affected by them has dared speak out so stridently and so publicly.

This is believed to be one of the first times that the intelligence agencies have been directly accused of carrying out such a crime.

Few cases are reported to the police - or challenged in the courts - because people are fearful that they or their relatives may be harmed as a result.


The claims have been made by Shahnaz Akhtar, 35, a school teacher who lives in a refugee camp near the regional capital Muzaffarabad.

She told the BBC that her husband disappeared the day after his arrest, when he was brought to a hospital in the city for a "heart condition".

Ms Akhtar said that her husband was returning to Muzaffarabad on his motorbike when he was arrested at an army checkpoint.

"A friend of my husband's rang me up to tell me my husband had been admitted to a hospital," Ms Akhtar told the BBC.

"I went to the hospital and walked right up to his bed but some men in plain clothes rushed towards us and stopped us from talking to each other. They pushed me out of the ward," she said.

"I went there again the next morning but his bed was empty. No-one has told me what happened to him or where he was taken."

Muzaffarabad Deputy Commissioner Ansar Yaqoob said that he was "not aware of the case" and could not comment.

The couple crossed into the Pakistani side of Kashmir from Indian-administered Kashmir in 1990, when the separatist insurgency there was at its height.


hahahaha ha ha ha ha hahaha
thanks i needed that laugh
 
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similarly......just because some geelani says a lakh kashmiri muslims have been killed..thousands have gone missing, thousands have been raped does not make it true.....let him find the bodies of all the lakh killed, let those thousands who have been missing come and say they had been kidnapped by indian forces...let those thousands of women who were alleged to be raped provide proof that they have indeed been raped by indian sec forces.....then that would be something......
You can't. If Geelani said that for an individual case I would understand. But its been thoroughly proven through William Baker, through Human rights activists, through Indian Army's own confessions and trials, through mass graves.

Nobody is accusing India without any proof. Moreover - the issue with India is no that they are committing human rights violations thats a thing on the side, the main issue is that they are not allowing the Kashmiris a right to self-determination. Because all indications prove that they will determine against India.
 
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You can't. If Geelani said that for an individual case I would understand. But its been thoroughly proven through William Baker, through Human rights activists, through Indian Army's own confessions and trials, through mass graves.

Nobody is accusing India without any proof. Moreover - the issue with India is no that they are committing human rights violations thats a thing on the side, the main issue is that they are not allowing the Kashmiris a right to self-determination. Because all indications prove that they will determine against India.

Its about time this un enforceable UN resolution be laid to rest.

This hogwash of right to self determination has been laid to rest as far as India is concerned while Pak continues to flog a dead horse.

It is ironical that a nation which in itself does not have rights to self determination within itself ( military rule ) clamours for one outside its borders.

Enough of it.
 
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With some proof?
Proof lies buried in those 6000 of mass graves recently discovered in IOK.Lady must approach UNHRC to get those graves dug up by GOI to search her missing husband.It might be possible that her hubby might have inadvertently crossed LOC and systematically captured and killed by indian forces.

With all the denials by Pakistan regarding its backing of insurgency in Kashmir, how will Pakistan deny this charge??????

ISI, it is your turn to deny the charge.

May God bless the lady and good luck to the guy kidnapped!!!!! :fie:
Its the GoI which is in denial hence it refuses to dug up graves to do DNA testing.which might answer many questions of missing persons both in IOK and Azad kashmir.
 
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Speaking out publicly by a woman whose husband is missing. Now if the husband comes and says hes been held captive by Shuja Pasha that would be something.

She can say Mickey Mouse has kidnapped my husband. Won't make it true till she presents some evidence to back that accusation.

Indian spy hamring Kashmiris and getting them killed well what is punishment for treason??
 
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if speaking out publicly and accusing is not enough proof...then you pakistanis also have no damn proof for the accusation against indian forces.....all you rely on is some random kashmiri frothing his mouth out.....

what is sauce for goose should be sauce for gander too.....
You have more valid proof buried in IOK dug up those first for missing persons validation of remains.
 
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