Pakistani community is under attack in GREECE

[venu309]

I think Pakistanis & most of us go overseas for education, betterment of life etc, if we want to do any criminal activities, form or join gangs, then there is no need to make the effort to go overseas we can do right at home. By carrying out this kind of activities we are not only spoiling our lives but also our country's name abroad.

 

[Desert Fox]

I thought about it too before, but Asian gangs did help reduce attacks by British nationalists in UK

My point was that when all hell breaks loose and anarchy is everywhere, those Europeans will have a whole arsenal at their disposal since it is their homeland and they have the home advantage. Who's going to help those stranded Pakistanis and their bunch of street thugs.

Watch this documentary:

 

[Desert Fox]

Dont take my post wrong- i said protection committees aka gangs- the type of gangs you infer were not my intentions-
We cannot let them to just target us while we engage ourselves in education and other positive activities-

The recent UK riots and the cooperation between Pakistanis and Indians is a good example to follow- let me tell you this alliance did not happen over night or was not a instance natural reaction- The gangs played an important part in protecting South Asians during the violence-

Thanks for clarifying your post, but i still stand by my statement, when all hell breaks loose, anarchy everywhere and there won't be any government to protect anyone, those Asian street gangs won't stand a chance against organized Nationalist militias who will have the backing of people in the police and armed forces who also share their Nationalist views.

 

[JonAsad]

^^ thats the worst case scenario you are talking about- which itself is rare- unless we Muslims become to them what Jews were to Nazi-

 

[Desert Fox]

^^ thats the worst case scenario you are talking about- which itself is rare- unless we Muslims become to them what Jews were to Nazi-

And what makes you think history won't repeat itself? The increase in joblessness, riots, anarchy and Islamophobia and rise of European nationalism is only a indication of what storm lies ahead. Read about pre-World War 2 Germany and you will see that the same events that led to the rise of Hitler and NAZI party are repeating themselves today.

The Nationalists are even going to the extent of spitting on the graves of the soldiers who fought against Hitlers Armies

No one ever thought that Germany would rise again as a world power after its defeat in WWI, but they were proven wrong, Germany came out stronger than ever and conquered most of Europe and it took more than 77 countries to defeat Germany, now imagine how many European countries are seeing the rise of Nationalist movements when that was just one Germany?

Germany too was a democratic country after its defeat in WWI, no one expected a racism fascist party would be able to infiltrate and take over the entire German Armed Forces and German Government.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

there are few stupid people in all countries.

 

[Developereo]

Thanks for clarifying your post, but i still stand by my statement, when all hell breaks loose, anarchy everywhere and there won't be any government to protect anyone, those Asian street gangs won't stand a chance against organized Nationalist militias who will have the backing of people in the police and armed forces who also share their Nationalist views.

I think the suggestion is for a multi-ethnic neighborhood watch protecting their neighborhood, not an ethnic criminal gang demarcating their turf.

It is a fact that many areas were safer during the UK riots because oridnary, local residents joined together to fight off the rioters.

 

[Desert Fox]

I think the suggestion is for a multi-ethnic neighborhood watch protecting their neighborhood, not an ethnic criminal gang demarcating their turf.

It is a fact that many areas were safer during the UK riots because oridnary, local residents joined together to fight off the rioters.

And what were those ordinary local residents armed with? Bats, swords (in the case of sikhs) and workshop tools? Who were their adversaries in the riots? a bunch of teenagers looting ps3's and Xbox360's?

Come on, reread my posts, i'm talking about organized, well armed, well backed, nationalist movements who have connections in the police and armed forces and have the advantage of home ground, not some teenagers on a rampage.

 

[JonAsad]

And what makes you think history won't repeat itself? The increase in joblessness, riots, anarchy and Islamophobia and rise of European nationalism is only a indication of what storm lies ahead. Read about pre-World War 2 Germany and you will see that the same events that led to the rise of Hitler and NAZI party are repeating themselves today.

The Nationalists are even going to the extent of spitting on the graves of the soldiers who fought against Hitlers Armies

No one ever thought that Germany would rise again as a world power after its defeat in WWI, but they were proven wrong, Germany came out stronger than ever and conquered most of Europe and it took more than 77 countries to defeat Germany, now imagine how many European countries are seeing the rise of Nationalist movements when that was just one Germany?

Germany too was a democratic country after its defeat in WWI, no one expected a racism fascist party would be able to infiltrate and take over the entire German Armed Forces and German Government.

The concept of Neo Nazi in west is comparable to practiced radical islamization in the east-
If what you say is true then it will not be just Pakistani Muslims that will be target there- include all immigrants- jews- hindus- sikhs in the target list- the leftist wont let this happen again- So its rare- plus it will effect the new world order- which currently no one wants-

 

[Desert Fox]

The concept of Neo Nazi in west is comparable to practiced radical islamization in the east-
If what you say is true then it will not be just Pakistani Muslims that will be target there- include all immigrants- jews- hindus- sikhs in the target list- the leftist wont let this happen again- So its rare-

Even leftists are beginning to change their views, and they are even losing support in many cases as Islamophobia continues to rise. Its not as much against Jews or hindus as it is against Muslims, a recent article was about a Sikh in the EDL ( nationalist British party). As i said, read about pre-World War 2 Germany, and you will see a lot of similarities in the current events and those of the 1930's (when Hitler came to power).

 

[JonAsad]

Even leftists are beginning to change their views, and they are even losing support in many cases as Islamophobia continues to rise. Its not as much against Jews or hindus as it is against Muslims, a recent article was about a Sikh in the EDL ( nationalist British party). As i said, read about pre-World War 2 Germany, and you will see a lot of similarities in the current events and those of the 1930's (when Hitler came to power).

Bro if you are talking about Neo Nazi then their ideology or philosophy does not target Muslims only- It is another chaos in the making not for Muslims only- but for the whole world-

Plus the number of Muslims outweighs the then targeted Jews-

 

[Desert Fox]

Bro if you are talking about Neo Nazi then their ideology or philosophy does not target Muslims only- It is another chaos in the making not for Muslims only- but for the whole world-

Plus the number of Muslims outweighs the then targeted Jews-

I'm not only talking about Neo Nazi's but i'm also talking about other European Nationalist Movements, note that i mentioned in my posts "Nationalist Movements", in other words i'm not only talking about just Neo Nazi's. In the end all of them have the same objective, and share the same "Pan-European Nationalism", and to stop the continuous flood of immigrants into their countries and the displacement of the local indigenous European population. And no, the number of Muslims does not outweigh the then number of Jews, what is your source of evidence that states so? And even if there are more Muslims than there were Jews, but there aren't more Muslims than the local indigenous European population, and neither do Muslims enjoy heavy influence in the armed forces of European countries the way the European Nationalist movements do.

 

[JonAsad]

I'm not only talking about Neo Nazi's but i'm also talking about other European Nationalist Movements, note that i mentioned in my posts "Nationalist Movements", in other words i'm not only talking about just Neo Nazi's. In the end all of them have the same objective, and share the same "Pan-European Nationalism", and to stop the continuous flood of immigrants into their countries and the displacement of the local indigenous European population. And no, the number of Muslims does not outweigh the then number of Jews, what is your source of evidence that states so? And even if there are more Muslims than there were Jews, but there aren't more Muslims than the local indigenous European population, and neither do Muslims enjoy heavy influence in the armed forces of European countries the way the European Nationalist movements do.

Isn't that what i just said before- we need not worry as if we are the targets- include every immigrant as a target- If this happens it will happen in much bigger scale- Again i didn't meant by "outweigh" literally by numbers- i meant by resources- the influences- the concerned independent free Muslim States that exists now in the world- Their dependency on us- The fora we have to complaint- to act- I see no similarity between Nazi Germany Jews and us Muslims now-

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

always something negative to say

well, I did live in Turkiye for a little over 3 years and I was more than welcome wherever I went.....I got a few free cab fares, some dinners at streetside cafes where I ate a full entree, some sweets and 3 'finjans' of chai and when the guy noticed slight accent in my Turkish and I told him I was from Pakistan --he'd rip up the bill just like that and say "Pakistan kardesh ulke" (Pakistan brother country)


so yes --- being Pakistani in west or in some other countries may not be most 'fashionable' nowdays no thanks to negative image portrayed in biased media --- but in Turkiye we will always be welcomed warmly the same way Turks would be in Pakistan.

I was received warmly in Cairo during both visits (last one in 2008). Hell -- even here in DC I have no problems or qualms mentioning my nationality. In fact, it causes me the inconvenience of having to shake hands and spend 4 hours discussing Pakistan and giving our side of the story. (not necessarily a bad thing)



Muse ---- go outdoors, get some exercise, and change your bad attitude towards everything.



not everything is cast in steel. Personal interactions make a huge difference. And quite frankly, if somebody doesn't like Pakistan they have the permission to bend over and kiss our a$ses

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sorry to put you on the spot

but when i read crap, i wont sit idly

 

[jha]

Pretty soon these nationalist movements will target every immigrant.. Evrything boils down to economy..
When the natives are not getting job and the people from outside are coming and taking them, its natural for them to react this way...