Pakistani and Bangladeshi migrants having big families to claim benefits

[Dhruv V Singh]

Some Asian families in Britain are having too many children in order to claim extra welfare payments, Britain’s first female Asian peer claimed last night.Baroness Flather accused the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities of failing to adopt the values of British society and said they should have their benefits slashed.

Lady Flather, a former Tory who now sits as a crossbencher, said this abuse of the welfare system has been brushed under the carpet out of political correctness. She spoke out in the House of Lords during the second reading of the Welfare Reform Bill. Lady Flather, a former barrister who was born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, praised the Indian community in the UK for having taken on ‘the pattern’ of families in their adopted country, by limiting the size of their families.

But she took aim at the Pakistani community, saying uneducated immigrants are still following the traditions of their homeland by having more children because they end up getting a ‘bigger house’.She told peers: ‘The minority communities in this country, particularly the Pakistanis and the Bangladeshis, have a very large number of children and the attraction is the large number of benefits that follow the child.

‘Nobody likes to accept that, nobody likes to talk about it because it is supposed to be very politically incorrect.’
Lady Flather said parents of all backgrounds who have extra children should have no right to a larger council house. She added: ‘It is about time we stopped using children as a means of improving the amount of money they receive or getting a bigger house.

Read more: Migrants having big families for benefits, says Asian baroness | Mail Online

 

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born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, praised the Indian community

And this, The Baroness's peer pressure | Mail Online

She is the great granddaughter of Sir Ganga Ram, a philanthropist who pioneered irrigation systems in the Punjab, gave away millions to good causes and campaigned for better treatment of unmarried mothers and Hindu widows.
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There was plenty of money left for the family, who were on the party invitation list of leading figures like Indira Ghandi

Looks like a typical Indian with an axe to grind.

 

[Roybot]

And this, The Baroness's peer pressure | Mail Online

She is the great granddaughter of Sir Ganga Ram, a philanthropist who pioneered irrigation systems in the Punjab, gave away millions to good causes and campaigned for better treatment of unmarried mothers and Hindu widows.
[...]
There was plenty of money left for the family, who were on the party invitation list of leading figures like Indira Ghandi

Looks like a typical Indian with an axe to grind.

Well she was born in Lahore. Makes her a Pakistani. Are you saying Hindus can't be Pakistani?

 

[Developereo]

Well she was born in Lahore. Makes her a Pakistani. Are you saying Hindus can't be Pakistani?

She lived in Lahore before Pakistan's liberation (partition). From the above link,

Now 70, Shreela Flather was born into a prominent Indian family and came to London to read for the bar. In 1952, she married English QC Gary Flather

 

[CardSharp]

Looks like a typical Hindu with an axe to grind.

fixed for you.

 

[Roybot]

She lived in Lahore before Pakistan's liberation (partition). From the above link,

Now 70, Shreela Flather was born into a prominent Indian family and came to London to read for the bar. In 1952, she married English QC Gary Flather

There was no India before 1947. Something I learned on this forum. So she can't be an Indian.

 

[CardSharp]

There was no India before 1947.

But there certainly was Hindu and Muslim antagonism before 1947 (and after it seems).

 

[Developereo]

fixed for you.

I don't want to make assumptions about her religious agenda, but her political agenda -- as her family was on India Gandhi's invite list -- is pretty clear.

I highlighted the Hindu part to show her grandfather was selective in his philanthropy.

 

[Perceptron]

^^^^ Wow ; So you put 2 and 2 together to get 7 ? Brilliant deduction. Let me give you another.

Lady Flather, a former barrister who was born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, praised the Indian community in the UK for having taken on ‘the pattern’ of families in their adopted country, by limiting the size of their families.

So she being born in Lahore, is also a Pakistani with an axe to grind against India ; Or since Lahore being a part of British India she was an Indian ? It must be incredible for you to believe that what she comments must be based on facts & figures rather on Pakistani prejudices.

 

[Roybot]

But there certainly was Hindu and Muslim antagonism before 1947 (and after it seems).

I don't want to make assumptions about her religious agenda, but her political agenda -- as her family was on India Gandhi's invite list -- is pretty clear.

I highlighted the Hindu part to show her grandfather was selective in his philanthropy.

Was Ganga Ram Hospital, Lahore, Hindu only hospital?

 

[CardSharp]

I don't want to make assumptions about her religious agenda, but her political agenda -- as her family was on India Gandhi's invite list -- is pretty clear.

I highlighted the Hindu part to show her grandfather was selective in his philanthropy.

Reading the article this is pretty obviously the usual anti-immigrant hit piece by the daily mail, this time it seems they have someone who is ostensibly also an immigrant, but happy to push xenophobia. Worse part is this lady seems to be happy enough to score points for "Indian families" (her words not mine) at the expense of other immigrants.

 

[Perceptron]

fixed for you.

A+ for you sonny jim ; Now why would Chicoms bother about religion in this thread ? Or the deeper than the oceans and higher than the mountains brotherhood led you to detect an Islamophobic whiff here ?

 

[Roybot]

Well here's one from BBC.

BBC News - Immigrants have too many children, says Asian peer

 

[Developereo]

^^^^ Wow ; So you put 2 and 2 together to get 7 ? Brilliant deduction. Let me give you another.
So she being born in Lahore, is also a Pakistani with an axe to grind against India ; Or since Lahore being a part of British India she was an Indian ? It must be incredible for you to believe that what she comments must be based on facts & figures rather on Pakistani prejudices.

Lahore is a Pakistani city NOW, but it wasn't while she was living there. She has NOTHING to do with Pakistan and left the area before 1947, it seems. Certainly she was gone by 1952 when she married the English QC.

What we DO know is that her family was quite close to one of the most rabid anti-Pakistanis in Indian politics: the daughter of Nehru himself.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

A+ for you sonny jim ; Now why would Chicoms bother about religion in this thread ? Or the deeper than the oceans and higher than the mountains brotherhood led you to detect an Islamophobic whiff here ?

Yeah, get those bloody Chicoms!