Pakistan will soon get J10

[alimobin memon]

By Usman ANSARI

sorry but this guy is 'crap**a!

One high-profile Air Force procurement project, the FC-20, a Pakistani-specific variant of the Chinese Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon multirole fighter, may be adversely affected by the poor economic and political climate, he said.
Tufail said proceeding with this procurement is “far-fetched for the present.”

the payment for the J-10 system will not be made in one year, but will be spread over 'several' years to mitigate the impact on the PAF budget. the budget for PAF is going up for 2012-13 to cater for the induction of the 2nd tranche of JFT-blk-2 (50 a/c).

Thanks for clearing cuz i dont know what is going on here , this time budget has increased and for last 2 years there are talks of j10 ! and now when budget increased. than last year "it is impossible" that is one Crazy statement. Fatman's saying right it's not like we are to buy Fleet of j10 in one payment, Everyone pays installments and i said it before that , PAF pilots have actually 1 that i know has said , i dont think we are really in hurry to buy j10 we are fine now. The PAF pilots have had exercise with PLAAF and they have compared performances and are happy with jf17.

Technical knowledge, " some aircrafts are designed to carry 5000 kg of external payload , however to increase the payload the new composite material is added that increase for example 1000kg more payload but the cost of that material is thrice the previous composite material." Avionics wise there is not much of difference b/w jf17 and j10 no matter what u say about cost , the j10 has different engine and composites but avionics are same in both the aircraft , no matter what jf17.com says (it's unofficial) anyway the jf17 carries klj10 version of jf17 (klj7) the disk is small but everything is same the disk has decreased range for 5m^2 to 109km exact however with Active homing four bvr's and with sem active 2. and the EW suite JF17 has on tail tip is Different and powerful The development cost defines the fly away cost per unit , j10 cost of development is different . jf17 was made by only 500 mn $ why ? because it was based on the experience of PAF f16 and F7pg . There is diamond shaped jf17 as experiment for block 2 and 3 which media has no proof but it exist. However Jf17 of Pakistan airforce is cheap because it's development was cheap and easy manufacturing compared to western counterparts. and j10 initial program fund was 550 million $. in 2002-3 PAF was going to buy Mirage 2000 Hell i dont know what variant , because in 2002 PAF didnt expect Jf17 to be a so competent fighter but later when it rolled out the details and visiting of the Airforce for full testing phase impressed and shocked some that F16 mlu on bases of Avionics was no match for jf17. However Pakistan airforce is so secretive that no one knows the true capability of the fighter. What any1 is just half of it. my friend in PAF believes that the export variant wont be like jf17 of PAF but ofcourse the less. In the end i would say only one thing guys Hope for the Best expect the worst, even if we won't get FC-20 that means we already have something to deal with our enemies.

 

[abdulbarijan]

By Usman ANSARI

sorry but this guy is 'crap**a!

One high-profile Air Force procurement project, the FC-20, a Pakistani-specific variant of the Chinese Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon multirole fighter, may be adversely affected by the poor economic and political climate, he said.
Tufail said proceeding with this procurement is “far-fetched for the present.”

the payment for the J-10 system will not be made in one year, but will be spread over 'several' years to mitigate the impact on the PAF budget. the budget for PAF is going up for 2012-13 to cater for the induction of the 2nd tranche of JFT-blk-2 (50 a/c).

Look at the bright side, this at least confirms that

- We DO HAVE a procurement program for the FC-20 contrary to the belief of Indian counter parts, that are still waiting for "official" news..

 

[araz]

I personally feel no news will come out till the MMRCA result is made public. Behinfd the scene the specs are already being sorted out.
Araz

 

[The Great One]

I personally feel no news will come out till the MMRCA result is made public. Behinfd the scene the specs are already being sorted out.
Araz

I thought MMRCA result was made public some 4 months ago. Do you think PAF still hoping that our deal with the French will crash out.

 

[fatman17]

guys the JFT is going to the 'backbone' of the AF, just like sabres were in 65 and the F-6's / sabres in 71. the 'cutting edge' in 65 was the starfighter, mirage in 71. now the cutting edge will be the F-16s/J-10B's once they are inducted in 2014-15 window. by that time the JFT will be fully integrated in the PAF (for all 3 roles - CAS, AD, M-strike). then the PAF can turn their focus on the J-10B with the chinese powerplant, AESA and a bunch of other goodies. so chill guys.......remember many here said that JFT is a 'non-starter' because Russia wont give 'permission' for the engine, and the F-16C/D's wont see the light-of-day in PAF livery.....well guess what?

 

[alimobin memon]

There is not much difference b/w j10b and jf17 block2 , PAF will eventually negotiate for other fighter maybe jf17 blk3 or j20 or jxx

 

[fatman17]

There is not much difference b/w j10b and jf17 block2 , PAF will eventually negotiate for other fighter maybe jf17 blk3 or j20 or jxx

whatever, the point is a new weapons system will be inducted in the near-term.

 

[regular]

Okay guyz...Soundz cool info is distributed here...be happi and chillout then with the Red Chilli sauce......

 

[farhan_9909]

oh God

kaisar tufail has just given a hint

no official confirmation
of it being delayed or cancelled

you guys are just wasting time

 

[killerx]

PAF should buy more then 36 at least 75 and more F16B52 total 50

 

[manofwar]

PAF should buy more then 36 at least 75 and more F16B52 total 50

And you can fund all this from your salary..............

Seriously man, between increasing nukes , economic crisis, electricity crisis, growing military, decreasing military aid, how can Pakistan possibly find funds for these??
Instead, you can get Saab Gripen in the same range............and it isn't that expensive and doesn't carry the American name tag

 

[alimobin memon]

And you can fund all this from your salary..............

Seriously man, between increasing nukes , economic crisis, electricity crisis, growing military, decreasing military aid, how can Pakistan possibly find funds for these??
Instead, you can get Saab Gripen in the same range............and it isn't that expensive and doesn't carry the American name tag

Haahahaa what a joke u told now every one ROFL together for this wonderful joke !!

 

[killerx]

And you can fund all this from your salary..............

Seriously man, between increasing nukes , economic crisis, electricity crisis, growing military, decreasing military aid, how can Pakistan possibly find funds for these??
Instead, you can get Saab Gripen in the same range............and it isn't that expensive and doesn't carry the American name tag

we have proven our self brother beating you in JF17 and AL-khalid tank cheap built in less time cost half of indian counterparts so stop winingabout it and we can buy F16B52 and J10B so stop trolling

 

[ziaulislam]

And you can fund all this from your salary..............

Seriously man, between increasing nukes , economic crisis, electricity crisis, growing military, decreasing military aid, how can Pakistan possibly find funds for these??
Instead, you can get Saab Gripen in the same range............and it isn't that expensive and doesn't carry the American name tag

techincally besides all bad things our growth isnt much less than yours 5.1 %last quarter frowth.
if govt can give subsidy of over 500 billion on electrcrity or 150 billion for benazir income prog for poors, then 75 j-10s are nothing..
infact 5 years of PIA loses can pay for 75 j-10s over 5 years ..
so for 250 billion dollars economy, 3-4 billion over years is nothing. besides we have 6 billion defense budget..

the difference is priorities, current democratic govt priority is not defense at all.

dont show your ignorance, it seem schildish

 

[ababeel22]

to be honest Pakistan should buy used f16s upgrade them in turkey to the latest configurations they can. j10 is not a necessity, rather work should be done in to developing latter blocks of jf17 in to more potent one.