Pakistan will soon get J10

[The Great One]

But the order was for 36 J10B aircrafts..Even that order is not confirmed.

Ah...........
Who gives a c rap. Let them live in their alternate universe where J-10B is superior to Rafa and close to EF.

 

[Zarvan]

But the order was for 36 J10B aircrafts..Even that order is not confirmed.

Sir that order is for the first batch Pakistan Plans to have more than 100 J-10 B and for your information J-10 B was developed for Pakistan Pakistan was not very happy with the J 10 A so they asked China to develop a better model of J-10 and they developed the J-10 B

Ah...........
Who gives a c rap. Let them live in their alternate universe where J-10B is superior to Rafa and close to EF.

Sir you should stop living in paradise China and Pakistan both watch at your Armed Forces and what planes you are getting and than they also develop better stuff or at least of same level they are not fools to let you have all the fun

 

[MiG-21]

J-10B is, a poor man's Rafale

JF-17 is, a poor man's F-16

 

[Awesome]

Sorry If I may just cut across to make space for my argument. What other options did PAF have for the Indian MMRCA??

It's more to do with the options that are to make it to FC-20 (Pakistani J-10 variant). The options would be geared towards the threat perceptions of PAF.

 

[killerx]

the model the is presented by china in the pic is of J10 twin seat model take a close look WTF ?

 

[Beast]

J-10A twin seat aka J-10BS. This will be the version deliver to PAF. But radar might be AESA. Engine will run by WS-10A.

 

[killerx]

Sorry ruin the flow but gotta love this pic!

what about his one its J10B right the model is different its J10A zoom it

need more pics of the model hand over in hq to comfirm what PAF is buying under the name of FC20

 

[SBD-3]

the model the is presented by china in the pic is of J10 twin seat model take a close look WTF ?

I told you guys before that the model presentation means nothing. I dont why people dont understand the difference. Deals are not made in such a way. If PAF Chief hands over an F-16 Model to SLAF Air Chief would that mean Pakistan be selling its F-16s?
These are just exchanges. Procurement dicisions don't happen this way.

J-10A twin seat aka J-10BS. This will be the version deliver to PAF. But radar might be AESA. Engine will run by WS-10A.

Like you sold the L-15 as multirole fighter.....duh!....

Interesting, at least 12 Indian members visiting the thread....

 

[DrSomnath999]

Sir J-10 B is equal ant to Rafale and close to Euorofighter and Pakistan is planning to get more than 100 J-10 B because Pakistan needs to have at least 3 different platforms in its Air Force

oh yeah !!

kindly say how just both have canards u r telling they are equal !!!

Sir you should stop living in paradise China and Pakistan both watch at your Armed Forces and what planes you are getting and than they also develop better stuff or at least of same level they are not fools to let you have all the fun

well india was also not fool to allow u to have better stuffs like french avionics & mica missiles for ur JF 17.

 

[killerx]

any time frame of the delivery and no to be deliverd

oh yeah !!

kindly say how just both have canards u r telling they are equal !!!



well india was also not fool to allow u to have better stuffs like french avionics & mica missiles for ur JF 17.

yet it lives flying and block2 to on the way thanks for mate focus on tejas where its 70% parts come from you are really good

 

[DrSomnath999]

My posts regarding the JF-17 comes from Eagle Hannan, a credible engineer who works in Nanjing.



Chinese Avionics Advances Ripple Throughout Asia | Defense News | defensenews.com

mate i think u should nt have posted this link

if u read the entire article it states somewhere that Chinese expert CHANG i quote

If that is the case, analyst and Chinese specialist Andrei Chang said the new radar is unlikely to be an AESA type.

"The phased-array radar testing on the J-10B is a passive model," he said.

Chang said he does not think the Chinese have developed "a useful AESA radar for the JF-17 and J-10B," but they could in the future.

now would u beleive it or not

yet it lives flying and block2 to on the way thanks for mate focus on tejas where its 70% parts come from you are really good

well dont worry !! this is another secret advantage of MMRCA deal

we would utilize those technology used to built rafale in building LCA /PAKFA

CHEERS

 

[sancho]

Europe is not known to possess the wind tunnels, technologies, integral components such as very powerful engines, or the industrial capability to build fifth generation fighters. Whether they are able to do so if they did remains a separate story.

Oh please.

Wrong. The first RBE2 AESA just rolled off the line for the Rafale...
...For comparison, China's first airborne AESA entered service in 2004.

Not really, China as you pointed out is testing now AESA radars in fighters with first demo versions, while Rafale and EF did the same years ago, so they have developed this technology way before China was able to do it, that's a fact! They are just putting it in operational service now, which China will also do in some years only, possibly with J10B as the first platform.

As I said, China has more money for developments, that's why you have a higher pace to develop new things. But the Europeans are way ahead in terms of know how and experience and not only in the radar field.

Rafale, Eurofighter may still more advanced then J-10, but in view of the terrible economic situation in Europe, the further improvement of Rafale and Eurofighter will likely fall behind J-10.

Therefor J10 needs to catch up to them in technological terms first, but they were developed with more advanced even with the base versions, so that will be difficult, because there are limitations to the upgrade possibilities.

Thanks to the project of J-20, China aero industry will soon surpass Europe and catch up with USA...

That's true though, sooner or later and if China continues to put that much money in these development they will catch up with Russia and Europe, but the US will stay ahead for sure.

 

[killerx]

mate i think u should nt have posted this link

if u read the entire article it states somewhere that Chinese expert CHANG i quote


now would u beleive it or not



well dont worry !! this is another secret advantage of MMRCA deal

we would utilize those technology used to built rafale in building LCA /PAKFA

CHEERS

finaly you copy cats

 

[DrSomnath999]

finaly you copy cats

well it would be legall copying with agreements like joint venture, as we are paying for it not stealling /reverse engineering it like
"?????" u know who i am referring

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

well dont worry !! this is another secret advantage of MMRCA deal

we would utilize those technology used to built rafale in building LCA /PAKFA

CHEERS

You have JV on Su-30Mk and still your LCA is not inducted.
As LCA is light combat fighter, you can't use Sead and spectra technology of Rafale in small Light fighter LCA already said by indian member.
LCA has Mayawi ECM suite and it dosent have the power for something like SPECTRA onboard