Pakistan will launch a two-seater version of JF-17 - Induction of JF-17B in 2017

[帅的一匹]

ok, i try to calm down...

Do you think the model of JF17 on IDEX2017 is more sleeker?

 

[CriticalThought]

ok, i try to calm down...

Do you think the model of JF17 on IDEX2017 is more sleeker?

Can you post a picture?

 

[帅的一匹]

 

[DJ_Viper]

There is nothing which and cheap about it. As lot if thought had obviously gone into optimizing aerodynamically. As an example, that thicker spine ensures a smoother surface transition from the thicker end of the canopy. The protruding nose could be a prototype thing that gets dropped in production.

What is slightly problematic is that the canopy doesnt allow for looking around towards the back.

Google shock area rule to understand the thicker spine

I didn't mean to offend you. Thick spine meas more strength and more room to adjust for fuel cells and flight controls. Cheaper doesn't mean it in an insulting way, cheaper only means that they did it in the most cost effective manner possible, instead of modifying the air-frame.

 

[hussain0216]

ok, i try to calm down...

Do you think the model of JF17 on IDEX2017 is more sleeker?

The planes fine

PAF is part of the process and knew exactly what was happening

When you keep adding to the plane it will grow

So the plane is a balance between whst we need and the space available on a Jf 17

 

[帅的一匹]

The planes fine

PAF is part of the process and knew exactly what was happening

When you keep adding to the plane it will grow

So the plane is a balance between whst we need and the space available on a Jf 17

It makes me feel less frustrated when Iron brother ok with it.

 

[CriticalThought]

It looks similar to the one in the background.

 

[Arsalan]

It is reported on Chinese forums that JF17-B have made a successful first flight this morning in China.

Congratulations everyone!! This is a great day for us. Another milestone achieved in this highly successful program for PAF.

The plane is reported to feature new 3-axis FBW system.

The first flight is a bit early than originally scheduled, GREAT ACHIEVEMENT.

 

[帅的一匹]

This is what i expect

http://img0.utuku.china.com/uploadimg/mili/20170427/0ef4bec5-cfc8-4817-ab9e-28b0a92daf96.jpg

 

[[--Leo--]]

which engine using this version please tell

 

[Suff Shikan]

Engine the same?

Snecma M88 as per tips

 

[帅的一匹]

guys i need to take a leave, sorry for the emotional turbulence might disturb you.

 

[CriticalThought]

OK people. I think I can see where the design is coming from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Hawk#Design

The Hawk is an advanced trainer with a two-man tandem cockpit, a low-mounted cantilever wing and is powered by a single turbofan engine. Unlike many of the previous trainers in RAF service, the Hawk was specifically designed for training.[5] Hawker had developed the aircraft to have a high level of servicability, as well as lower purchasing and operating costs than previous trainers like the Jet Provost.[24] The Hawk has been praised by pilots for its agility, in particular its roll and turn handling.[25]

The design of the fuselage included a height differential between the two seats of the cockpit; this provided generous levels of visibility for the instructor in the rear seat.[26] Each cockpit is fitted with a Martin-Baker Mk 10B zero-zero rocket-assisted ejection seat.[26] Air is fed to the aircraft's rear-mounted Rolls-Royce Turbomeca Adour engine via intakes on each of the forward wing roots. During the aircraft's development, Hawker had worked closely with Rolls-Royce to reduce the engine's fuel consumption and to ensure a high level of reliability.[24]

Even within the development stages, a Hawk variant was intended to also serve as a single-seat ground-attack fighter; both the trainer and fighter models were developed with the export market in mind.[5] On single seat models, the forward cockpit area which normally houses a pilot is replaced by an electronics bay for avionics and onboard systems, including a fire control computer, multi-mode radar, laser rangefinder and forward-looking infrared (FLIR).[27] Some export customers, such as Malaysia, have extensive modifications to their aircraft, including the addition of wingtip hardpoint stations and a fittable inflight refuelling probe.[28]
The Hawk was designed to be manoeuvrable and can reach Mach 0.88 in level flight and Mach 1.15 in a dive, thus allowing trainees to experience transonic flight before advancing to a supersonic trainer.[29][30] The airframe is very durable and strong, stressed for +9 g, the normal limit in RAF service is +7.5/-4 g.[31] A dual hydraulic system supplies power to operate systems such as the aircraft's flaps, airbrakes and landing gear, together with the flight controls. A ram air turbine is fitted in front of the single tail fin to provide backup hydraulic power for the flight controls in the event of an engine failure,[32] additionally a gas turbine auxiliary power unit is housed directly above the engine.

The Hawk is designed to carry a centreline gun pod, such as the 30 mm ADEN cannon, two under-wing pylons, and up to four hardpoints for fitting armaments and equipment.[5] In RAF service, Hawks have been equipped to operate the Sidewinder air-to-air missiles. In the early 1990s, British Aerospace investigated the possibility of arming the Hawk with the Sea Eagle anti-ship missile for export customers.[33] In 2016, BAE Systems was studying the development of a so-called 'Combat Hawk', potentially equipping it with a new slotted wing, additional sensors and weapons, a head-mounted display, and a single large-screen display in the forward cockpit.[34]

 

[CriticalThought]

I didn't mean to offend you. Thick spine meas more strength and more room to adjust for fuel cells and flight controls. Cheaper doesn't mean it in an insulting way, cheaper only means that they did it in the most cost effective manner possible, instead of modifying the air-frame.

Would you like to comment?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/firs...ome-where-in-china.492142/page-5#post-9422148

 

[WarFariX]

JF-17B successfully made its first flight this morning at CAC.

damn it looks more beautiful