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Pakistan warns US against 'harmful' allegations of providing 'safe havens to militants'

Seems Mr Daniel Coats is too old to be in senses ... as usual Mr Trump should relieve him from services.


Trump do not like him. THIS IS TODAY NEWS!!! Coincidence??

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/trump-dan-coats-rant/index.html

Trump singled out Dan Coats in morning rant about intelligence community


This old f@rt , Daniel Coats, is trying to put spanner in the works of ongoing peace process in Afghansitan by taking an untimely and out of blue dig at Pakistan. He is the face of American deep state.

Trump really needs to clip the wings of his country deep state, otherwise, whatever he is trying to achieve will come to nothing. Pakistan should help if needed. Pakistan is perhaps the only country with deep and historical institutional memory on the inner workings of American deep state. We should do, what American establishment was doing to us with puppets like Zardari and Nawaz. Its a golden opportunity to settle some scores.
 
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There are clear indications that all is not well within America. It seems the Trump administration is working on a different agenda while on the other hand, the well entrenched American deep state, to which this chap Daniel Coats is part of, are going about in tangent. The constant dragging of Trump into Russian affair is a clear sign that American deep state despise him.

Pakistan needs to work with Trump, provided, there are clear and "irreversible" actions done by Trump to clip the wings of American establishment. We want America out of Afghansitan and if Trump wants the same, going against the wishes of American establishment, we should work with him.

The CIA/Pentagon are on a different wavelength as opposed to the White House. The CIA/Pentagon is the real problem. This nexus wants to promote India as the policeman of the region. Our war is essentially against the CIA/Pentagon.

Pakistan should continue to work with Trump, but we cannot do more than we already are.

Also keep intensive cooperation with China, Russia and Iran. Our goal is to devise an Afghan policy with regional nations. The US is generally a lost cause in this regard.
 
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The CIA/Pentagon are on a different wavelength as opposed to the White House. The CIA/Pentagon is the real problem. This nexus wants to promote India as the policeman of the region. Our wars against the CIA/Pentagon.

Pakistan should continue to work with Trump, but we cannot do more than we a already are.

Also keep intensive cooperation with China, Russia and Iran.


This happened just today!! can you believe it? After Coats diatribes against Pakistan.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/trump-dan-coats-rant/index.html

Trump singled out Dan Coats in morning rant about intelligence community



Pakistani establishment needs to wise up and take this god given opportunity with both hands. You got someone in white house who we may not like, but atleast with whom we share common enemy which is the American establishment. These fkers have been playing this game against us with this likes of Zardari and Nawaz for far too long. Using them to disrespect our national intuitions and our establishment. About time we clear our debts. Information is the key, passing some of it to Trump about what has been going about all these years so he can use them against these lot will be a good start.
 
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There are clear indications that all is not well within America. It seems the Trump administration is working on a different agenda while on the other hand, the well entrenched American deep state, to which this chap Daniel Coats is part of, are going about in tangent. The constant dragging of Trump into Russian affair is a clear sign that American deep state despise him.

Pakistan needs to work with Trump, provided, there are clear and "irreversible" actions done by Trump to clip the wings of American establishment. We want America out of Afghansitan and if Trump wants the same, going against the wishes of American establishment, we should work with him.

the only problem with your theory trump does not think highly of pakistan. it makes it hard to work with trump.

This happened just today!! can you believe it? After Coats diatribes against Pakistan.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/trump-dan-coats-rant/index.html

Trump singled out Dan Coats in morning rant about intelligence community



Pakistani establishment needs to wise up and take this god given opportunity with both hands. You got someone in white house who we may not like, but atleast with whom we share common enemy which is the American establishment. These fkers have been playing this game against us with this likes of Zardari and Nawaz for far too long. Using them to disrespect our national intuitions and our establishment. About time we clear our debts. Information is the key, passing some of it to Trump about what has been going about all these years so he can use them against these lot will be a good start.

Trump is gone in 2020 or 2024. the CIA/Pentagon will be around
you might want to think before you try anything stupid
 
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It is abundantly clear the US Military Industrial Complex is not too keen to get out of Afghanistan or winding down their engagement in Afghanistan. Washington Post just carried an editorial on why US should not get out of Afghanistan and how now is not the right time to get out of there.
The US establishment wants to contain China and considers India as an key ally, including Japan and Australia for its policy of containing China in the East Asia and South Asia region. It is clear Indian concerns were included in that report to satisfy that need, however we should haste with building our border wall with Afghanistan as Trump is running out of time quickly. We must be prepared for any eventuality, our financial situation isnt very secure to begin with.

The American deep state has been very unhappy with the wall that the Pak army is building. The US media coverage regarding the wall has been largely negative. The wall thwarts CIA/Pentagon designs to freely infiltrate Pakistan and send over assets to create havoc.

Pakistan must at all cost finish the wall. This is an insurance policy.
 
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Trump do not like him. THIS IS TODAY NEWS!!! Coincidence??

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/trump-dan-coats-rant/index.html

Trump singled out Dan Coats in morning rant about intelligence community


This old f@rt , Daniel Coats, is trying to put spanner in the works of ongoing peace process in Afghansitan by taking an untimely and out of blue dig at Pakistan. He is the face of American deep state.

Trump really needs to clip the wings of his country deep state, otherwise, whatever he is trying to achieve will come to nothing. Pakistan should help if needed. Pakistan is perhaps the only country with deep and historical institutional memory on the inner workings of American deep state. We should do, what American establishment was doing to us with puppets like Zardari and Nawaz. Its a golden opportunity to settle some scores.

why does the world have to revolve around pakistan ?
trump is fuming over something related to putin/russia
 
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the only problem with your theory trump does not think highly of pakistan. it makes it hard to work with trump.



Trump is gone in 2020 or 2024. the CIA/Pentagon will be around
you might want to think before you try anything stupid

There CIA/Pentagon game of propping India is over.

There is general consensus among Pakistan, China, Russia and Iran that the CIA/Pentagon war in Afghanistan must at all cost be defeated. The CIA/Pentagon is a common enemy of China, Iran, Pakistan and Russia. We are on path of handing out total defeat. Trump or no Trump won't change that policy one bit.

We are collectively going to annihilate CIA/Pentagon presence in the region. You should have no doubt.

why does the world have to revolve around pakistan ?
trump is fuming over something related to putin/russia

It is Daniel Coats who mentioned Pakistan. You should ask your own representatives to stop obsessing about Pakistan.

As far as we are concerned America lost the war in Afghanistan and you need to fvck off from this Pakistani defence forum.

Don't you claim to be an American? Why are you discussing topics on a Pakistani forum if Pakistan is irrelevant to you? On the one hand you claim that the world doesn't revolve around Pakistan, yet you roam around on a Pakistani forum 24/7 begging for attention. Make up your mind buddy 'cause you don't sound very convincing.
 
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It is Daniel Coats who mentioned Pakistan. You should ask your own representatives to stop obsessing about Pakistan.

As far as we are concerned America lost the war in Afghanistan and you need to fvck off from this Pakistani defence forum.

Daniel Coats mentioned a lot of things. pakistan is not the one trump is fuming about
 
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Daniel Coats mentioned a lot of things. pakistan is not the one trump is fuming about

Frankly we don't give a fvck about Trump or America. It is Trump who wrote a letter to Imran Khan. It is Graham who proposed FTA. It is Daniel Coats who mentioned Pakistan. It is America that keeps obsessing and mentioning Pakistan.

We have already shown you the middle finger. America doesn't figure anywhere. We are too busy building bridges closer to home. Pakistan has no time for games. Don't use our supply routes and face us if you got something on your mind. Don't play a duplicitous game. You cannot contain China. Nor can you promote India as an alternative. We will thwart and frustrate you all along the way. You got too many enemies in this region who are all united and ready to decimate you. The CIA/Pentagon got its rear kicked for the past 17 years and today you have to beg Pakistan to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table. Don't kid yourself. The whole world knows it.
 
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Frankly we don't give a fvck about Trump or America. It is Trump who wrote a letter to Imran Khan. It is Graham who proposed FTA. It is Daniel Coats who mentioned Pakistan. It is America that keeps obsessing and mentioning Pakistan.

We have already shown you the middle finger. America doesn't figure anywhere. We are too busy building bridges closer to home. Pakistan has no time for games. Don't use our supply routes and face us if you got something on your mind. Don't play a duplicitous game. You cannot contain China. Nor can you promote India as an alternative. We will thwart and frustrate you all along the way. You got too many enemies in this region who are all united and ready to decimate you.

I wouldn't know from all the fuming on this forum
 
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Rand Paul: 'Ludicrous' to call a withdrawal from Afghanistan and Syria 'precipitous'

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Thursday it was "ludicrous" for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to call taking troops out of Syria and Afghanistan “precipitous.”

“To call it a precipitous withdrawal after 17 years is ludicrous,” Paul said on Fox News. “We’ve been there 17 years.”

The libertarian-leaning lawmaker said the U.S. had secured a victory in Afghanistan because it “got bin Laden” and “disrupted the people who attacked us.”

He argued that the money spent on the war could be better spent domestically, including on a border wall.

The U.S. has been leading an international coalition against ISIS in Syria since 2014, while the war in Afghanistan began in late 2001.

Senators are planning to vote Thursday afternoon on an amendment sponsored by McConnell that warns “the precipitous withdrawal” of U.S. forces from Syria and Afghanistan “could put at risk hard-won gains and United States national security.”

The measure is meant as a rebuke of the Trump administration, with GOP lawmakers concerned over President Trump's reluctance to listen to top military and intelligence advisers.


The Trump administration instructed the military to begin removing troops from Afghanistan, two officials told The New York Times last month, though the White House contradicted that report.

The U.S. and the Taliban are coming closer to an agreement that could include withdrawing troops, The Washington Post reported Monday.

“It would recognize the danger of a precipitous withdrawal from either conflict and highlight the need for diplomatic engagement and political solutions to the underlying conflicts in Syria and Afghanistan," McConnell said of his resolution earlier this week.

"We are the leader of the free world, and it’s incumbent upon the United Stares to lead, to maintain a global coalition against terror and to stand with our partners engaged in a daily fight against terrorists," he added.

McConnell will challenge Trump on Syria, Afghanistan troop withdrawals
By Bob Fredericks

January 31, 2019 | 12:58pm | Updated


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Sen. Mitch McConnell will flex his foreign policy muscles Thursday and challenge President Trump’s decision to bug out of Syria and cut the 14,000 US troops in Afghanistan by half.

The Senate majority leader plans to introduce an amendment to the Strengthening America’s Security in the Middle East Act, which affirms the US commitment to Israeli security, deepens ties with Jordan and holds those responsible for crimes against Syrian civilians accountable.

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McConnell pushes back against Syria, Afghanistan troop withdrawl

“My amendment to S.1 would allow Senators to go on the record about what the United States should be doing in Syria and Afghanistan. ISIS and al Qaeda have yet to be defeated and American national security interests require continued commitment to our missions there,” McConnell tweeted Thursday morning.

That puts him at odds with the commander-in-chief, who said that ISIS had been defeated when he abruptly announced pulling troops from Syria, a decision that prompted Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to quit in frustration.

The Kentucky lawmaker, who normally defers to Trump on most issues, scheduled the Senate vote for later Thursday, and a number of other Republicans have indicated that they are on board.

He also stressed the importance of coordination between the White House and Congress to develop long-term strategies in both nations, “including a thorough accounting of the risks of withdrawing too hastily.”

McConnell’s positions on ISIS and Afghanistan mirror those of the US intelligence community.

Director of National Security Dan Coats, appearing with CIA Director Gina Haspel and FBI chief Christopher Wray, told a Senate panel Tuesday that ISIS remained a dire worldwide threat, and contradicted the president’s foreign policy views on Iran, North Korea and Russian election meddling.

An enraged Trump later slammed Coats, and tweeted that the 17 US intelligence agencies he oversees were “naive,” “wrong,” and “should go back to school.”
 
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All official departments of western powers are always in hand-in gloves for their combined strategy that is to control and subdue everyone to follow them. Same old colonist attitude, everyone is aware of everything indeed permitting to make accusation one day and praise the other day. It just seems the prelude tactics to buy time/device appropriate policy/blame/subdue/blackmail/provoke/building false opinion/destabilizing etc for some sort of Sanctions some day.

Seems testing the resolve of nations for peace till break even point for them to make a case for sanctions.

Will accuse for long till you make a blunder for imposing sanctions or agree to their conditions. Either way is win-win situation for them.
 
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The American deep state has been very unhappy with the wall that the Pak army is building. The US media coverage regarding the wall has been largely negative. The wall thwarts CIA/Pentagon designs to freely infiltrate Pakistan and send over assets to create havoc.

Pakistan must at all cost finish the wall. This is an insurance policy.

I havent read much about Pak-Afghan wall coverage in the US media, in my opinion they really dont care about it. They have the usual Pakistani's are saying this and Afghans are saying this, make your own mind approach. However this could change in the future, but it wont affect building of wall in any way shape or form.
Pakistan must and will finish this wall.

Rand Paul: 'Ludicrous' to call a withdrawal from Afghanistan and Syria 'precipitous'

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Thursday it was "ludicrous" for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to call taking troops out of Syria and Afghanistan “precipitous.”

“To call it a precipitous withdrawal after 17 years is ludicrous,” Paul said on Fox News. “We’ve been there 17 years.”

The libertarian-leaning lawmaker said the U.S. had secured a victory in Afghanistan because it “got bin Laden” and “disrupted the people who attacked us.”

He argued that the money spent on the war could be better spent domestically, including on a border wall.

The U.S. has been leading an international coalition against ISIS in Syria since 2014, while the war in Afghanistan began in late 2001.

Senators are planning to vote Thursday afternoon on an amendment sponsored by McConnell that warns “the precipitous withdrawal” of U.S. forces from Syria and Afghanistan “could put at risk hard-won gains and United States national security.”

The measure is meant as a rebuke of the Trump administration, with GOP lawmakers concerned over President Trump's reluctance to listen to top military and intelligence advisers.


The Trump administration instructed the military to begin removing troops from Afghanistan, two officials told The New York Times last month, though the White House contradicted that report.

The U.S. and the Taliban are coming closer to an agreement that could include withdrawing troops, The Washington Post reported Monday.

“It would recognize the danger of a precipitous withdrawal from either conflict and highlight the need for diplomatic engagement and political solutions to the underlying conflicts in Syria and Afghanistan," McConnell said of his resolution earlier this week.

"We are the leader of the free world, and it’s incumbent upon the United Stares to lead, to maintain a global coalition against terror and to stand with our partners engaged in a daily fight against terrorists," he added.

McConnell will challenge Trump on Syria, Afghanistan troop withdrawals
By Bob Fredericks

January 31, 2019 | 12:58pm | Updated


Modal Trigger
mitch-mcconnell-donald-trump.jpg

Getty Images
Sen. Mitch McConnell will flex his foreign policy muscles Thursday and challenge President Trump’s decision to bug out of Syria and cut the 14,000 US troops in Afghanistan by half.

The Senate majority leader plans to introduce an amendment to the Strengthening America’s Security in the Middle East Act, which affirms the US commitment to Israeli security, deepens ties with Jordan and holds those responsible for crimes against Syrian civilians accountable.

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McConnell pushes back against Syria, Afghanistan troop withdrawl
“My amendment to S.1 would allow Senators to go on the record about what the United States should be doing in Syria and Afghanistan. ISIS and al Qaeda have yet to be defeated and American national security interests require continued commitment to our missions there,” McConnell tweeted Thursday morning.

That puts him at odds with the commander-in-chief, who said that ISIS had been defeated when he abruptly announced pulling troops from Syria, a decision that prompted Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to quit in frustration.

The Kentucky lawmaker, who normally defers to Trump on most issues, scheduled the Senate vote for later Thursday, and a number of other Republicans have indicated that they are on board.

He also stressed the importance of coordination between the White House and Congress to develop long-term strategies in both nations, “including a thorough accounting of the risks of withdrawing too hastily.”

McConnell’s positions on ISIS and Afghanistan mirror those of the US intelligence community.

Director of National Security Dan Coats, appearing with CIA Director Gina Haspel and FBI chief Christopher Wray, told a Senate panel Tuesday that ISIS remained a dire worldwide threat, and contradicted the president’s foreign policy views on Iran, North Korea and Russian election meddling.

An enraged Trump later slammed Coats, and tweeted that the 17 US intelligence agencies he oversees were “naive,” “wrong,” and “should go back to school.”

Mitch and other establishment republicans and democrats along with all the pro war media is already trying to sabotage Trumps withdrawal plans. I am not a fan of Rand Paul but from day one he is consistent about bringing American troops back.

The US establishment can try what it may, but eventually they will have to leave Afghanistan. The 2020 election campaign is already getting interested on Democratic side. Establishment Democrats such as Kamala, Biden, Gillibrand, Beto and Corey are up against Warren, Tulsi and probably Bernie are all vying for the Democratic Presidential candidacy. And lets not forget the newly elected congress that includes AOC, Khanna etc batch of progressives, most are anti-war and anti interventionist. The democrats will be moving to the left, and regardless of what the US pro war establishment wants, they must withdraw from Afghanistan.

Trump is still the best bet for establishment, compared to Democrats.

All official departments of western powers are always in hand-in gloves for their combined strategy that is to control and subdue everyone to follow them. Same old colonist attitude, everyone is aware of everything indeed permitting to make accusation one day and praise the other day. It just seems the prelude tactics to buy time/device appropriate policy/blame/subdue/blackmail/provoke/building false opinion/destabilizing etc for some sort of Sanctions some day.

Seems testing the resolve of nations for peace till break even point for them to make a case for sanctions.

Will accuse for long till you make a blunder for imposing sanctions or agree to their conditions. Either way is win-win situation for them.

Of course, that is what US lead west is always up to. Case and point, Venezuela.
 
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