Pakistan vs India (2017) A hypothetical war scenario

[Reichsmarschall]

Many things are not considered in there, This video is solely based on numbers BUT not on strength, as we all know IAF is suffering from low serviceability rate, while IA has night vision problems among mechanized, armoured and even among infantry columns. IN is having problem with their submarine fleet, cant even stay underwater for continuous 7 or 8 hours except the Nuclear ones. & one more thing IN has never deployed Nuclear Subs in Arabian Sea, Last but not least, They never acts as one unit, Lack of co-ordination is the weakest point in Indian Doctrine.
So I totally disagree, because its a show off numbers, not power exactly.

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[Chhatrapati]

This video is solely based on numbers BUT not on strength, as we all know IAF is suffering from low serviceability rate,

It's over 60% percent and we are keeping it on tabs. The serviceability problem is old news. In a war like scenario, the serviceability will be greatly improved to meet the demands.

while IA has night vision problems among mechanized, armoured and even among infantry columns.

Wrong, the night vision goggles are being procured. In a war like scenario, within two or three weeks the equipment will be in place.

cant even stay underwater for continuous 7 or 8 hours except the Nuclear ones.

That's laughable . Diesel subs are not supposed to stay under forever. They can take turns, as Indian navy has 15 subs. We don't need to deploy all of them.
Also, we have a SSBN and SSN.

They never acts as one unit, Lack of co-ordination is the weakest point in Indian Doctrine.

That is another wrong statement. Almost all navies, air force and Army acts as independant unit.
India only lack a joint Chief of staff. Although there was some lack of coordination in the past that has been improved nowadays.
http://www.firstpost.com/india/indi...ation-among-three-military-wings-3404356.html

So I totally disagree, because its a show off numbers, not power exactly.

Of course numbers don't win war. Strategy does. And we are improving that with Joint exercises with some large navies like US, Japan and at times Russia.

And we have quite a history in war like scenarios.

So, I would say Indian forces has some advantages over Pakistan.
Provided both of them don't nuke each other to oblivion.

 

[sparten]

So servicibility will be worse in a peacetime senario, but better during wartime with much higher operational tempo and with enemy action hitting logistic dumps? Seriously?

And as for NVG, thanks for the laugh. Within two or three weeks? If we magically gave every Indian soldier and equipment NVG's they will barely be ready in two or three YEARS never mind weeks. Equipment is not like a new smartphone that you can unpack and start using. The operators have to be brought up to speed on its use in addition they have work in coordination with other Arms.

Armor and infantry will basically need to relearn night fighting from scratch to operate the systems effectively as parts of combined arms formation. That will take substantial time.

 

[django]

In the event of a nuclear exchange over Kashmir, the most artificial state that is India would disintegrate with the the Northeast states breaking off first , then the rest would follow PERIOD, the Ganga would become a dsytopian wasteland full of mutant Gangadeshis, no question about it.
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[CriticalThought]

Well if Pak armed forces conveniently follow the script given in the video, then yes the outcome is evident. The reality is, Nasr and MAD will come into play much earlier in case of any thrust by IA or IAF.

Another aspect that cannot be quantified in a numerical comparison is the use of proxies and subterfuge to take out Indian air defence radars.

EDIT: The video considers the number of missiles and cruise missiles as being limited. This is fallacious since we base our strategy on superior CM capability in terms of both quality and quantity. Contrary to what the video shows, Indian air bases all the way to Andaman&Nicobar will be hammered by our missiles, either cruise or ballistic.

 

[third eye]

In the event of a nuclear exchange over Kashmir, the most artificial state that is India would disintegrate with the the Northeast states breaking off first , then the rest would follow PERIOD, the Ganga would become a dsytopian wasteland full of mutant Gangadeshis, no question about it.
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Would you like to share your assessment of the fate of Pakistan ?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Would you like to share your assessment of the fate of Pakistan ?

Don't ask his answer will be BS like this.

 

[Alphacharlie]

My My...the Deep Psychosis Continues

Best Dichotomy Observations on this Gossip Forum :-
1) IAF suffers from Maintenance issues but PAF is perfect 100% Serviceability
2) Indian Navy Subs are Tanks, Pak Navy 70s Agosta are Sharks
2a) Zulfiqar Class Corvette are called Frigates !!! with no AshM Capability -- Floating target
3) India will not use 70% of Weaponry as it has to Defend Against China
4) Indian Tanks cant see, People Forget Indian Army as Over 1300 T90S/M, 2000T72 m1/m2 variants pitched against T59/69/T80 ---
5) J7, M3/5 are Rockstars, Mig21Bison which has avionics comparable to F16 Block 50 are duds
5a) Only 18 F16 Block 52 with Strings, Rest all Block 15--- How many SERVICABLE never Disclosed. How many Cannibalised unknown -- Uncle Amerika not giving spares
6) Ahhh Mig 29upg,MIG29K, M2K are Peanuts
7) Best of All Pakistanis eat Meat and Indian Eat Daal
--IAF will switch off BVR Radars for WVR Fights as Border distance is 20km!!
--S300 is a Dud

 

[django]

Would you like to share your assessment of the fate of Pakistan ?

Will be in better nick than Gangadesh,,,,,BTW that was the best case scenario in a limited exchange, when and if we unleash our full potential on you, their will be no one left bar a few scavenging mutants

Don't ask his answer will be BS like this.

Gangadesh mata ki Jia heheheeeee

 

[Dash]

The quality of posts has deteriorated so much that amateurish thinking is being allowed as mainstream policy baffles me as an old forumer.

And I pity Indian members who even post comments just that they have some bloody ego.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Gangadesh mata ki Jia heheheeeee

Will be in better nick than Gangadesh,,,,,BTW that was the best case scenario in a limited exchange, when and if we unleash our full potential on you, their will be no one left bar a few scavenging mutants

Only proves my point.

Don't ask his answer will be BS like this.

 

[django]

Sir Django proves his point that we Gangadwellers will be decimated

Well young fellow you should heed my advice and lobby your incompetent chai-wala to order an immediate withdrawal of all Gangadwellers from the beautiful land of Jammu and Kashmir, then and only then will we spare you.
Now do not waste my time with your incoherent ramblings.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Well young fellow you should heed my advice and lobby your incompetent chai-wala to order an immediate withdrawal of all Gangadwellers from the beautiful land of Jammu and Kashmir, then and only then will we spare you.
Now do not waste my time with your incoherent ramblings.

Go cry

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

1.6 million people will be defending Pakistan. and add reserves make it 2 million.

the boundary at loc is impossible to overrun as those high mountains support defensive forces.

Punjab is defended by most of our forces and water canal system along with anti tank weapons will be the biggest killer of any invading forces.
same goes for sindh where anti tank systems will destroy invaders in open. those who don't agree refer to Isis war in Mosul and see for yourself what happened to Iraqi armour.

Pakistan air force is not weak either. air defense is strong enough to support our slightly outnumbered air forces.it is all about strategy.
first generation jf 17 block 1 defeated f 16 block 52 many times in exercises. its about pilots skills not machines.

naval defense of Pakistan is slightly weak but could be made stronger by inducting more anti ship coastal missiles. our assets are our submarines. we got enough submarines to defend our small coast.

the thing needed to be understand is that Pakistan in defensive is more strong than any other country as we have very very large defense capabilities as compare to the land we are defending.
India on the other hand is a big country with very very small defense as compared to its area and coast it will be defending in case of any war.

 

[Rakshas]

Mig21Bison which has avionics comparable to F16 Block 50 are duds

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