Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

[Titanium100]

First in the world | Unmanned stealth fighter, next generation | kizilelma​

For the laymen

 

[manpk77]

Russian tech is trash don't compare that to Turkish tech..

The truth is that this is the only stealth unmanned fighter in the world period

Showing photos of aeroplanes without engines will not win wars.

 

[Trango Towers]

Showing photos of aeroplanes without engines will not win wars.

Back to the goats....there is a good boy

 

[manpk77]

Back to the goats....there is a good boy

I refer you to this post.

What is the reason for TAI to give repeated requests to Rolls Royce, GE and Eurojet to have joint development of engines then? It's been 5 years and they haven't done anything yet.

Prototypes are not a finalized product get that clear, its not suitable for military operations!

Instead TAi is installing readymade engines from GE.

 

[Basel]

They are same design flying wing Jet powered UCAV ... nothing else

but KIZILELMA is unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to carry even air to air missiles and GaN based AESA Radar for air to air combat as like Chinese J-20 5th gen Fighter Jet

KIZILELMA and J-20
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And only USA,UK,France,Turkiye,China have single crystal turbine blade and bliks technologies in the world

Why less stealthy design like J-20 is used in that UCAV?? Canards are not good for VLO stealth, it may restrict it to LO stealthy design.

 

[MMM-E]

Ahh copying me now...nothing original...truly Greek. Please ask your facist mate...they love making up lies

Bro dont waste your time with Greek troll Foinikas who has big hatred and butthurt feeling towards Turkiye

His mission on PDF = anti-Turkiye propaganda and to defame Turkish Defense Industry

 

[MMM-E]

Why less stealthy design like J-20 is used in that UCAV?? Canards are not good for VLO stealth, it may restrict it to LO stealthy design.

Turkiye has also flying wing stealth UCAV project ( TAI ANKA-3 ) which make the first flight in 2023

KIZILELMA with delta canards for aggressive maneuvers in air to air combat

KIZILELMA is future war concept fully equipped with artificial intelligence that it can make certain decisions on its own

An artificial intelligence algorithm beat a human Fighter pilot during a simulated dogfight

so how could a human win when an AI can withstand G forces that no human could survive ?

AI could win non stop eventually



in 2030s , twin engined KIZILELMA will be turned into a hell's weapon

-- High situational awareness with EOTS and AESA Radar , sensor fusion
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Composite body improves stealth capability incredibly
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Speed of mach 1.8 / mach 2
-- Aggressive maneuverability with delta canard and vertical stabilizers
-- fully equipped with artificial intelligence that it can make certain decisions on its own

 

[Foinikas]

Moderators please ban @Foinikas for consistently trolling what are otherwise great educational threads. This poster habitually shows up to Turkey related threads to troll and to instigate flame wars.

His behaviors brings down the quality of the forum and hijacks good threads. @waz @Deino

I am not trolling. It's MMM-E's provocative comments and rhetoric that demand reply.

I don't have problems with people like merzifonlu and even if dBSPL and I disagree on a lot,I don't have a problem with him.
If you don't see the problem in MMM-E's posts...then look again. Many others have.

@Foinikas Looool you reap what you sow. Have a nice day

How many times have you got banned again?

 

[Horse_Rider]

I doubt Turkey will be able to design their own powerplant, unless until they partner with GE and US will not give the turbine tech to Turkey.

GE has worked in Turkey for decades and has been involved with an engine design for the TFX also. I believe it's the upgraded version of the infamous GE-F404 but I could be off and it may be the 100X series that powers the F-16's.

Turkey is building their own power plant. The drive from the Turkish leadership is that "all strategic weapons MUST be built in-house". Way to go! It's the SAME theme I'd hope we adopt in Pakistan too starting from license assembly of systems like the J-10C / Akinci / KizilElma, etc in the future and build a local industry around these platforms to whatever degree possible.

 

[MMM-E]

Everyone's mission on PDF is to "defame the Turkish Defense Industry",according to you...

Not Everyone
but only you ..... full of trolling and babbling and trying to defame the Turkish Defense Industry


I have technical posts here about TFX and KIZILELMA

wth are you doing here with your false flagger account manpk77 ?

 

[Foinikas]

Not Everyone
but only you ..... full of trolling and babbling and trying to defame the Turkish Defense Industry


I have technical posts here about TFX and KIZILELMA

wth are you doing here with your false flagger account manpk77 ?

I'm at two places at the same time? Luxembourg and Greece?

 

[kingQamaR]

I wouldn’t want to be the test pilot in a test platform of an ambitious 5th generation fighter from a country that has never designed aircraft before

 

[MMM-E]

I wouldn’t want to be the test pilot in a test platform of an ambitious 5th generation fighter from a country that has never designed aircraft before

Dont worry you are nobody


Our test Pilots will do it with zero anxiety and fear


Turkiye produced Aircraft in 1936-1944

HURKUS

HURJET first flight in 2023

Turkiye's first indigenous Helicopter made first flight without any problem

KIZILELMA unmanned Fighter Jet made first flight without any problem

And TFX will shut up all enemies

 

[Foinikas]

I wouldn’t want to be the test pilot in a test platform of an ambitious 5th generation fighter from a country that has never designed aircraft before

See how polite he is? Now he'll say that you're part of the "anti-Turkiye troll team".

 

[kingQamaR]

Dont worry you are nobody


Our test Pilots will do it with zero anxiety and fear


Turkiye produced Aircraft in 1936-1944

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HURKUS

HURJET first flight in 2023
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Turkiye's first indigenous Helicopter made first flight without any problem
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KIZILELMA unmanned Fighter Jet made first flight without any problem
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And TFX will shut up all enemies
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Aircraft making is not that you will learn immediately. It needs a lot of experience before you claim to improve your plane or you were able to produce 5 generation fighter when you didn’t able to produce 1st 2nd 3rd 4th how can it be ? Magic?