Pakistan to soon deploy a nasty surprise for Indian Aircraft Carriers.

[Hallian_Khan]

Bullshit alert... Bullshit alert... Bullshit alert

butt hurt alert.... burt hurt alert

 

[Ultima Thule]

CBG have something called fighter aircraft, you know what they can do to your coastal batteries & ships ?

And we have no answer for those we have no Fighter jets we have no AWACS, we have no BVR equipped jets, we have no long range ground basd radars, we are defenseless

 

[SQ8]

And we have no answer for those we have no Fighter jets we have no AWACS, we have no BVR equipped jets, we have no long range ground basd radars, we are defenseless

Better luck arguing with this, it has less of an ego.

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

we have hyper-sonic (CM-400 AKG 400 KM), supersonic (C-803 250 KM) subsonic (C-802 280 KM, Exosets 120 KM, harpoon 150-180 KM) and ZARB anti ship missiles with a range of 600 km,

Sources other than speculation that u have a hyper sonic missile in ur arsenal further what about its maneuverability

Another clown is detected i already said that we have no DF-21D, DF-26 like missiles,

And still say u could hit a CBG well away from your coastal shores far enough that none of your missiles could reach it or by pass the first line of defense hope u know what a CBG stands for

if you have solutions of all your problems BARAK-8 which have short to medium range then why you're buying S-400 and developing PAAD and AAD and ballistic missiles warheads traveled at hyper-sonic speed ( Mach- 5 and higher) not over Mach-1 ( supersonic speed) and we talking about saturation attacks on your CBG ( multiple supersonic, hyper-sonic and subsonic missiles attacking from a different directions)

lOGIC SIRRR...
s-400 : for defense against aerial threat on land
96L6E radar and equipment work separately (100 metres), 96L6E2 export version has the capability to track a maximum 100 targets. In mountainous terrain the system is resistant to false returns or clutter. Replaces the radar to detect low-level radar targets and conduct radar sector review. Omnidirectional to detect all aircraft types, including low-observable (not against ballistic missiles). Can perform the functions of a command post for battalions of S-300 (SA20/20A/20B)or S-400. 96L6-1 of S-400 and S-500. Maximum height for the detection of the target 100 km away and from all directions. Can use a special tower 966AA14. Detection capability against cruise missiles and stealth. It serves as the command post for the battalions. Phased-array radar and multipath.
Anti – stealth range 150 km
Maximum targeting range (detection radius is wider)

• For a ballistic target (speed of 4800 m/s and a radar cross-section of 0.4 square metres): 230 km
• For a target with RCS of 4 square metres: 390 km
• For targeting of strategic-bomber sized types: 570 km

for PAD & ADD
Introduced in light of the ballistic missile threat from mainly Pakistan,it is a double-tiered system consisting of two land and sea-based interceptor missiles, namely the Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) missile for high altitude interception, and the Advanced Air Defence (AAD) Missile for lower altitude interception. The two-tiered shield should be able to intercept any incoming missile launched from 5,000 kilometres away. The system also includes an overlapping network of early warning and tracking radars, as well as command and control posts.

ballistic missiles warheads traveled at hyper-sonic speed ( Mach- 5 and higher) not over Mach-1 ( supersonic speed)

Man you are so funny we know it well before u launch such a system and at the launch speed its well within mach 2 and at that point it can be taken down by our land based anti missile system
further sir its a known fact to me that a missile with range of 2200 km is going to have a range of mach 7 at its re entry point in atmosphere towards its target but its pre destined to some specific point while that CBG or for your "INCOMPETENT BRAIN" CARRIER BATTLE GROUP is moving at 30 knots and is fully armed with full situational awareness And your so called mirv with 3 -4 warheads are of no use against
The navy's new carrier battle group centered on Vikramaditya consists of the modern Kolkata class destroyers
Armament:

• Anti-air missiles:
• 4 × 8-cell VLS, for a total of 32;[8][9]
• Barak 8 missiles (Range: 0.5 km (0.31 mi) to 90 km (56 mi)[10])
• Anti-ship/Land-attack missiles:
• 2 × 8-cell UVLM for 16 BrahMos anti-ship and land-attack missiles[9][11]
• Guns:
• 1 × 76 mm gun Oto Melara SRGM
• 4 × AK-630 CIWS

, Shivalik

• Anti-air missiles:
• 32-cell VLS launched Barak 1 missiles
• 24 × Shtil-1 medium range missiles
• Anti-ship/Land-attack missiles:
• 8 × VLS launched Klub, anti-ship cruise missiles
• or
• 8 × VLS launched BrahMos, anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles
• Guns:
• 1 × OTO Melara 76 mm naval gun
• 2 × AK-630 CIWS

and Talwar-class frigates

• 24 × Shtil-1 medium range missiles
• 8 × Igla-1E (SA-16)
• 8 × VLS launched Klub, anti-ship cruise missiles (F40, F43, F44)
• 8 × VLS launched BrahMos, anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles (F45, F50, F51)
• 1 × 100mm A-190E, naval gun
• 2 × AK-630 CIWS (F45, F50, F51)
• 2 × Kashtan CIWS (F40, F43, F44)
• 2 × twin 533mm DTA-53-11356 torpedo tubes
• 1 × RBU-6000 (RPK-8) rocket launcher[5]

, Kamorta-class anti-submarine warfare corvettes and new tankers. INS Chakra II is expected to fill the sub-surface component.hope u are smart not to engage with me next time
you your self are confused see

we talking about saturation attacks on your CBG ( multiple supersonic, hyper-sonic and subsonic missiles attacking from a different directions)

i already said that we have no DF-21D, DF-26 like missiles

ZARB anti ship missiles with a range of 600 km

 

[The Accountant]

Man you are so funny we know it well before u launch such a system and at the launch speed its well within mach 2 and at that point it can be taken down by our land based anti missile system
further sir its a known fact to me that a missile with range of 2200 km is going to have a range of mach 4 at its re entry point in atmosphere towards its target but its pre destined to some specific point while that CBG or for your "INCOMPETENT BRAIN" CARRIER BATTLE GROUP is moving at 30 knots and is fully armed with full situational awareness
you your self are confused see

Man the way you are bragging your head against wall I am sure its broken ...

Lets address some of your misconceptions ...

From where the hell you got that ballistic missile speed is going to be Mach 4? Mach 4 speed can be attained by a simple AAM ... MRBM ballistic missiles are atleast Mach 10 plus ... Can barak 8 take out a ballistic missile traveling at Mach 10 + speed? It is not designed to do that ... not a single air defense is capable of taking out ballistic missile at terminal phase it is the most difficult task ... even US is using THAAD i.e. taking ballistic missile out of atmosphere as they do not have any meaningful tech to take ballistic missile out at terminal phase

Anti-ship ballistic missiles are different them normal ballistic missiles which are destined to fixed place ... Pakistan's MRBM will take around 30 minutes from launch till impact ... so within that time where will your CBG can move while it is already established fact that we will be monitoring live feed from Chinese missile and off-course antiship missile will be with active seeker ... don't tell me you believe that an anti-ship missile will be without active seeker ...

last but not the least ... From where the hell in the world will you know about the launch of a missile before its launch? Is it a martian technology or what ?

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

Lets address some of your misconceptions ...

From where the hell you got that ballistic missile speed is going to be Mach 4? Mach 4 speed can be attained by a simple AAM ... MRBM ballistic missiles are atleast Mach 10 plus ...

and what does this make u think its going to be at mach 10+ sir re read i stated its going to be mach 7

even US is using THAAD i.e. taking ballistic missile out of atmosphere as they do not have any meaningful tech to take ballistic missile out at terminal phase

To be frank hope u get it in one go how are u going to put a active seeker on something moving at as per your recommendations at mach 10+ do u have a martian fiber technology . Further THAAD IS A MULTI LAYERED defense mechanism of USA and EU .

Anti-ship ballistic missiles are different them normal ballistic missiles which are destined to fixed place

WOw i thought

i already said that we have no DF-21D, DF-26 like missiles

so how are u going to hit it ...

 

[The Accountant]

and what does this make u think its going to be at mach 10+ sir re read i stated its going to be mach 7

To be frank hope u get it in one go how are u going to put a active seeker on something moving at as per your recommendations at mach 10+ do u have a martian fiber technology . Further THAAD IS A MULTI LAYERED defense mechanism of USA and EU .

WOw i thought

so how are u going to hit it ...

You are talking complete non-sense here ...

Ok lets play with your arguments ...

You said that MRBM can go upto March 7 i.e. hypersonic ... and on the same basis you claim that there could not be any active seeker on that ... bravo ... then what the hell your DARDO and Russia are claiming with Brahmos 2 hypersonic Mach 6 plus anti-ship missile ?
So for you the martians tech is available whereas for others its an unachievable martian tech whereas 2 countries are already using these techs ...

ABout Mach 10 claim ,,, if you follow missile then you will know what are the general speed of solid fuel based MRBM ... ICBM can go even much higher speed somewhere around Mach 17 ... but my friend you have no knowledge on the field ...

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

You are talking complete non-sense here ...

Ok lets play with your arguments ...

You said that MRBM can go upto March 7 i.e. hypersonic ... and on the same basis you claim that there could not be any active seeker on that ... bravo ... then what the hell your DARDO and Russia are claiming with Brahmos 2 hypersonic Mach 6 plus anti-ship missile ?
So for you the martians tech is available whereas for others its an unachievable martian tech whereas 2 countries are already using these techs ...

ABout Mach 10 claim ,,, if you follow missile then you will know what are the general speed of solid fuel based MRBM ... ICBM can go even much higher speed somewhere around Mach 17 ... but my friend you have no knowledge on the field ...

Sir With due respect
When u talk about an MRBM u r not going to use a seeker since i haven't heard of any such further for bramhos its not a predetermined trajectory missile which means it can be re shaped from its path

Flight phases
The following flight phases can be distinguished:

• boost phase: 3 to 5 minutes; it is shorter for a solid-fuel rocket than for a liquid-propellant rocket; depending on the trajectory chosen, typical burnout speed is 4 km/s (2.5 mi/s), up to 7.8 km/s (4.8 mi/s); altitude at the end of this phase is typically 150 to 400 km (93 to 249 mi).
• midcourse phase: approx. 25 minutes—sub-orbital spaceflight with a flightpath being a part of an ellipse with a vertical major axis; the apogee (halfway through the midcourse phase) is at an altitude of approximately 1,200 km (750 mi); the semi-major axis is between 3,186 and 6,372 km (1,980 and 3,959 mi); the projection of the flightpath on the Earth's surface is close to a great circle, slightly displaced due to earth rotation during the time of flight; the missile may release several independent warheads and penetration aids, such as metallic-coated balloons, aluminum chaff, and full-scale warhead decoys.
• reentry/terminal phase (starting at an altitude of 100 km, 62 mi): 2 minutes – impact is at a speed of up to 7 km/s (4.3 mi/s) (for early ICBMs less than 1 km/s (0.62 mi/s));

Further sir lets assume that ur missile has an actual range of 3000 km, then lets assume it took 29 minutes to reach its destination from starting of its launch . then this means its moving at 3856 m/h then implying 1.071 m/s approx defining it that its moving at mach 5 approx Thus in turn eliminating human error ur missile which is without any seeker moving at a predetermined path it going to go at mach 7 max.

 

[The Accountant]

Sir With due respect
When u talk about an MRBM u r not going to use a seeker since i haven't heard of any such further for bramhos its not a predetermined trajectory missile which means it can be re shaped from its path

Flight phases
The following flight phases can be distinguished:

• boost phase: 3 to 5 minutes; it is shorter for a solid-fuel rocket than for a liquid-propellant rocket; depending on the trajectory chosen, typical burnout speed is 4 km/s (2.5 mi/s), up to 7.8 km/s (4.8 mi/s); altitude at the end of this phase is typically 150 to 400 km (93 to 249 mi).
• midcourse phase: approx. 25 minutes—sub-orbital spaceflight with a flightpath being a part of an ellipse with a vertical major axis; the apogee (halfway through the midcourse phase) is at an altitude of approximately 1,200 km (750 mi); the semi-major axis is between 3,186 and 6,372 km (1,980 and 3,959 mi); the projection of the flightpath on the Earth's surface is close to a great circle, slightly displaced due to earth rotation during the time of flight; the missile may release several independent warheads and penetration aids, such as metallic-coated balloons, aluminum chaff, and full-scale warhead decoys.
• reentry/terminal phase (starting at an altitude of 100 km, 62 mi): 2 minutes – impact is at a speed of up to 7 km/s (4.3 mi/s) (for early ICBMs less than 1 km/s (0.62 mi/s));

Further sir lets assume that ur missile has an actual range of 3000 km, then lets assume it took 29 minutes to reach its destination from starting of its launch . then this means its moving at 3856 m/h then implying 1.071 m/s approx defining it that its moving at mach 5 approx Thus in turn eliminating human error ur missile which is without any seeker moving at a predetermined path it going to go at mach 7 max.

Brother which maths are you doing ?

Check the bold part above ? you are contradicting yourself ... Is it 7km/s or 3856 m/h? Are you sure you are not drunk ... 3856 m/h means 3.8 km per hour ... are you talking about some bicycle or a missile ?

I am right you have no knowledge or understanding of misile even physics ... you are comparing liner displacement of missile and trying to compute speed on this ... hahaha ... you are just too funny ...

 

[Penguin]

Just a question that we have rumours that Pakistan has access to Chinese satellites providing live image so how hard is it to identify a CBG in Indian ocean through live satellite imagery, provided that general location of the CBG will always be tracked by Pakistan in hostile situation ...

Disclaimer : I am not aware of chinese live imagery details so I might be worng in assumng that Chinese can track live imagery ...

Hard. And your proviso will not apply

 

[Ultima Thule]

Sources other than speculation that u have a hyper sonic missile in ur arsenal further what about its maneuverability

here it is
http://www.asian-defence.net/2012/1...ersonic-Carrier-Killer-Missile-For-JF-17.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/sy-400.htm

And still say u could hit a CBG well away from your coastal shores far enough that none of your missiles could reach it or by pass the first line of defense hope u know what a CBG stands for

you know multiple saturation attacks on your CBG from different directions you insane

further sir its a known fact to me that a missile with range of 2200 km is going to have a range of mach 7 at its re entry point in atmosphere towards its target but its pre destined to some specific point while that CBG or for your "INCOMPETENT BRAIN" CARRIER BATTLE GROUP is moving at 30 knots and is fully armed with full situational awareness And your so called mirv with 3 -4 warheads are of no use against

you sh!t hole why don't u understand we hvae no DF-21 and DF-26 like BM that can hit your CBG ,we have supersonic, hyper sonic (CMM-400AKG) and subsonic anti ship missiles for your CBG and we have also ZARB missile with a range of 600 KM you brain fart

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-coast-defence-missile-systems.96783/

and what does this make u think its going to be at mach 10+ sir re read i stated its going to be mach 7

read this you fool than talk
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/intro/bm-basics.htm

To be frank hope u get it in one go how are u going to put a active seeker on something moving at as per your recommendations at mach 10+ do u have a martian fiber technology . Further THAAD IS A MULTI LAYERED defense mechanism of USA and EU .

you're assuming he is not saying that you d!ckhead
BM has other sensors to like astro navigation system wit GPS input and other system to guide BM to its target

WOw i thought

look yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ship_ballistic_missile

so how are u going to hit it ...

with this CM-400 AKG​

 

[The Accountant]

Hard. And your proviso will not apply

It do not apply in the sense Pakistan do not have access or the Chinese satellite are not capable of providing live imagery ?

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

Check the bold part above ? you are contradicting yourself ... Is it 7km/s or 3856 m/h? Are you sure you are not drunk ... 3856 m/h means 3.8 km per hour ... are you talking about some bicycle or a missile ?

I am right you have no knowledge or understanding of misile even physics ... you are comparing liner displacement of missile and trying to compute speed on this ... hahaha ... you are just too funny ...

Great
for @The Accountant THAT part is for an icbm your missile is a mrbm. And how does miles 3857 become 3.8km its 6207 km sir do your maths right .

 

[Mrc]

While Americans are sh!tying their pants over North Korean mijjiles .... Indian day dreams here on pdf continue unabated

 

[The Accountant]

Great
for @The Accountant THAT part is for an icbm your missile is a mrbm. And how does miles 3857 become 3.8km its 6207 km sir do your maths right .

Well when I was studying physics m=meter and mi =miles .. is standard changed now then I am not sure :p

furthermore, from where do you bring the magic figure of 3857 miles / hour ? our of your immagination ?