Pakistan to raise 12,000 Marines in a new branch of Navy

[niaz]

Even though ‘Raison d’etre’ of Marine Force is countries like USA is ‘Force projection’ across the world; it does not have to be so in Pakistan scenario. Defence against Air attacks as well a possible amphibious invasion to our 3 ports; Karachi, Port Qasim & Gwadar is vital.

I was aware that PN had Marine Force of about battalion strength established way back in the early 1970’s. I came across an old squash partner in Karachi a couple of years back who retired as Commodore. Apparently Pak Navy Marines have been revived and are in existence. This being essentially Naval Infantry with the Air Defence of PN installations as one of their main tasks.

Don't think it is a brand new force but expansion of existing marine force to the Division level strength. IMHO, this is a welcome move and should have done even earlier. Especially since Gwadar could also be vulnerable to attacks from the BLA.

 

[Manindra]

Its a very big expansion, Except Sagar Prahari who guards IN ships IN have only 2000 MARCOS (SF), as if they need help they have to call IA.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

I foresaw this in a Dream it's is indeed a miracle. Niw lets hope Pakistan gets those two type 56 corvette ans 4 additional frigate
3 destroy
2 type 55 destroy
and 1 custom built Juan Carlos LHD.


oh boy oh boy

Why not get the French Mistral .... $5 billion per year would be also given by you.

 

[special]

Its a very big expansion, Except Sagar Prahari who guards IN ships IN have only 2000 MARCOS (SF), as if they need help they have to call IA.

marcos don't have the duty of ship protection. they are SF they will be used only when the things getting out of regular ship protection and SPB. even no. of US navy seals are only 2500. i'm sure that navy will never call army for help.
in every ship there are ship protection force. then there are SPB for VBSS operations.

 

[Manindra]

marcos don't have the duty of ship protection. they are SF they will be used only when the things getting out of regular ship protection and SPB. even no. of US navy seals are only 2500. i'm sure that navy will never call army for help.
in every ship there are ship protection force. then there are SPB for VBSS operations.

I already stated that Navy have Sagar Prahari for their Ship protection & MARCOS for special operation & for rest they are dependent on IA.

 

[OrionHunter]

Bloody waste of money. What is the point of Marines? What seaborne attack are we contemplating?

First please, please please can we secure Karachi and FATA then we can think of the sea.

Spot on! Recruiting, alone, will take years. Then the exorbitant cost of raising a new marine division will cost the exchequer a whopping Rs 40,000 crores PKR. Maintenance of such a force will also involve a recurring expenditure which would be a drain on the economy.

Attacking Oman? Or securing the sea?

Probably Gujarat? Or Mumbai?

 

[Icarus]

Spot on! Recruiting, alone, will take years. Then the exorbitant cost of raising a new marine division will cost the exchequer a whopping Rs 40,000 crores PKR. Maintenance of such a force will also involve a recurring expenditure which would be a drain on the economy.


Probably Gujarat? Or Mumbai?

From what I have heard, these guys are not Marines in the traditional sense of the word but were rather interpreted as so by the media. They are actually an anti-piracy maritime force that is to be raised to ensure the safe passage of mercantile vessels through Pakistani waters and also guard the string of ports that have to be constructed or have been constructed at Gwadar, Pasni, Ormara and Karachi.
All of this is very Alpha phase stuff and the original plan will be subject to many changes before its implementation is carried out.

 

[Manindra]

they are not depend on army. the indian army soldiers in Andaman & Nicobar command are like marines, they operate along with navy.

In Andaman & Nicobar all tri services command is under navy but that's a not case in eastern & western naval command.

 

[special]

In Andaman & Nicobar all tri services command is under navy but that's a not case in eastern & western naval command.

there is no army personals in east and western naval command.

 

[Manindra]

there is no army personals in east and western naval command.

When Navy need them they would call IA.

 

[kaonalpha]

Why not get the French Mistral .... $5 billion per year would be also given by you.

Better idea you buy frech mistral and tell me how the unholy russian french deamon baby works out.

If I have 1 billion I would buy it generously sign and agreement to buy the ship only for pakistan navy

you are in favour of frech mistral go and buy it for 5 billion. The only thing you are gonna end up with is a virgin mirangue

 

[Zarvan]

I foresaw this in a Dream it's is indeed a miracle. Niw lets hope Pakistan gets those two type 56 corvette ans 4 additional frigate
3 destroy
2 type 55 destroy
and 1 custom built Juan Carlos LHD.


oh boy oh boy

No need of LHD right now first focus should be 16 to 18 Frigates and 4 to 6 Cruise missile destroyers than if we need should go for LHD.

 

[xyxmt]

Bloody waste of money. What is the point of Marines? What seaborne attack are we contemplating? Attacking Oman? Or securing the sea?

First please, please please can we secure Karachi and FATA then we can think of the sea.

secure the roof while leaving the door unguarded
you coast line is a wide open door

 

[rockstar08]

even a Small but well equipped force can easily do the job ... the issue is we need Attack helicopters , Drones , and Armored Vehicles ....

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Better idea you buy frech mistral and tell me how the unholy russian french deamon baby works out.

If I have 1 billion I would buy it generously sign and agreement to buy the ship only for pakistan navy

you are in favour of frech mistral go and buy it for 5 billion. The only thing you are gonna end up with is a virgin mirangue

It only costs USD 1 Bil. per ship. two are for sale both are designed to have Russian Helicopters and can be used as command ships.

Juan Carlos LHD's are available Thailand and Spain both are willing to sell the old ones but the issue is the high operating costs and more over no aircraft that is capable of landing on these is currently available other then the Heli's.

Demon baby normally is the most viscous ...