Pakistan To Participate In Turkey’s TFX Next-Gen Fighter Aircraft Program

[Bilal Khan 777]

Its rather because we can't buy western equipment, so it feels good to have a western tag on whatever we buy.

We can buy western equipment, but overtime, we have gotten used to Chinese subsidies and Chinese translators.

Aircraft are not bought by engine count, they are bought for a particular mission profile. If single engine aircraft are able to be included in the defined and proven "package" then a twin engine is not required. Many in PAF today have flown twin engines and know the advantages. The decision makers are adequately equipped to decide the course of action for PAF.

 

[SBD-3]

We can buy western equipment, but overtime, we have gotten used to Chinese subsidies and Chinese translators.

FYI we're even buying Chinese equipment on soft loans. If you can afford even the cheaper products on installments, forget about buying expensive ones on cash.

 

[SouI]

That doesn't matter, They built a VTOL and Carrier based Aircraft into ONE airframe.

That is true but we will not do it.

 

[Hassan Guy]

We can buy western equipment, but overtime, we have gotten used to Chinese subsidies and Chinese translators.

Aircraft are not bought by engine count, they are bought for a particular mission profile. If single engine aircraft are able to be included in the defined and proven "package" then a twin engine is not required. Many in PAF today have flown twin engines and know the advantages. The decision makers are adequately equipped to decide the course of action for PAF.

Maybe that is one reason why PAF has not committed to any 5th gen platform yet.

 

[araz]

We can buy western equipment, but overtime, we have gotten used to Chinese subsidies and Chinese translators.

Aircraft are not bought by engine count, they are bought for a particular mission profile. If single engine aircraft are able to be included in the defined and proven "package" then a twin engine is not required. Many in PAF today have flown twin engines and know the advantages. The decision makers are adequately equipped to decide the course of action for PAF.

With all due respect this is my problem with your posts. You need to take the opportunity to teach us what the decision makers take into account and whyyl we have chosen to go for a single engined fighter. Please educate us and perhaps one of us will gain from the knowledge that you impart. I certainly enjoy your posts but a little bit more detail will help.
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[Tipu7]

Final design?

 

[Mo12]

this will end up a disaster, Turket economy is to small and doesnt have the expertise like Russia and China is making these jets.

 

[Hassan Guy]

this will end up a disaster, Turket economy is to small and doesnt have the expertise like Russia and China is making these jets.

BAE systems is helping, they will be fine

 

[XILLAX]

this will end up a disaster, Turket economy is to small and doesnt have the expertise like Russia and China is making these jets.

Maybe nowdays but it was not always so

Transport

Fighter plane

Stealth plane wasnt planed but looking like it

Today

We are on the right way to getting a place into the global players like in 1940 again

 

[SBD-3]

Bye bye TFX for now.

From the rough looks of the shaky photo taken from a patoto camera, it seems it is a F-22 Raptor screen shot from a PC game Arma 2

It's JSF (DSI inlets vs rectangular of F-22)

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Bye bye TFX for now.
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It's JSF (DSI inlets vs rectangular of F-22)

LOL looks like we are back at J-31

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Bye bye TFX for now.
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@cabatli_53 ...Sir, is it true?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Bye bye TFX for now.
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It's JSF (DSI inlets vs rectangular of F-22)

It's been delayed. Alan Warnes is saying that plans to have the TFX fly by 2023 - which was very unlikely to happen anyways - have been abandoned. They don't have a date for the maiden flight, but the program is still alive.

 

[araz]

It's been delayed. Alan Warnes is saying that plans to have the TFX fly by 2023 - which was very unlikely to happen anyways - have been abandoned. They don't have a date for the maiden flight, but the program is still alive.

Given that the airoplane is still on drawing board, and we are looking at a Fifth generation platform, I think we wont see the light of the day before 2028 and that too being optimistic. Inspite of help from BAE systems, I think 5th generation platforms pose a lot of technical difficulties which lower generation ones dont.
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[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Given that the airoplane is still on drawing board, and we are looking at a Fifth generation platform, I think we wont see the light of the day before 2028 and that too being optimistic. Inspite of help from BAE systems, I think 5th generation platforms pose a lot of technical difficulties which lower generation ones dont.
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As per our own ACM we are just conceptualizing what an ideal next-gen platform would look like, so we're not too far off from where the Turks are in this regard. I expect the PAF would induct such a platform around the late 2020s, maybe even early 2030s.