Pakistan terror wave sparks rare criticism of Saudi Arabia!

[ArsalanKhan21]

Same question to Sunnis

Mirza Qadiani declared himself a prophet and established another religion. We are not discussing Qadianism in this thread.

 

[Kompromat]

Saudi govt should know that these very kids radicalized with their money are VERY likely to fight and pose a great threat to them in the future.

 

[Norwegian]

Mirza Qadiani declared himself a prophet and established another religion. We are not discussing Qadianism in this thread.

So did Moses, Jesus, Mohammad (SAW) and all other prophets we believe in or do no believe in. My point is: State should allow complete freedom of expression or speech and freedom of religion or beliefs. Why should state dictate what's the "right" religion and "wrong" religion constitutionally? Isn't this meddling with other people's religion that led to current state of radicalism in Pakistan where every other sect is declaring another Kafir?

Saudi govt should know that these very kids radicalized with their money are VERY likely to fight and pose a great threat to them in the future.

@Horus what I don't understand is that how come so many Pakistanis still love Saudi Arabia after what that country's bad influence has done in Pakistan? I mean here in Europe, even with so little Muslim population, masses of Europeans have been awakened and united against this increasing threat of radical Islam sponsored by Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States in local mosques. So why it took so long for Pakistanis to wake up and publicly speak against their dear Saudis?

 

[waz]

Sadly now this cancer has mutated into a strictly homegrown one. Many Pakistanis were and still are wholly complicit in bringing in alien thought processes to our region and declaring everything else falsehood. I remember too well of people coming back from from travels or work outside Pakistan and then pronouncing takfir over everything we believed, not even sparing their nearest and dearest. This also seems to be the craze amongst Pakistan's middle classes i.e. that in order to be enlightened you need to reject our Sufi heritage.
There are is one main reason why we haven't seen a single attack on our Shia brothers and sisters in AJK (my ancestral home), even though they make up a sizeable minority, that is because we haven't allowed any other creed to take root there. Islam and the practices of Tasawuf are what our people have practiced through the ages, and it is the cement that binds our people and encourages peace, love and brotherhood.
Until Pakistan embraces its spiritual heritage the attacks, terrorism etc will continue, and even grow with even greater ferocity. I like the work that organisations such as Dawat-e-Islami , Minhaj and others are doing a great deal of good work, with regards to helping the masses rediscover their past and love of Islam through Tasawuf.

As for blaming the Saudis, I'm afraid the blame lies mostly with us.

 

[Norwegian]

As for blaming the Saudis, I'm afraid the blame lies mostly with us.

Although you are right in your argumentation that most of the fault remains with us Pakistanis, its no longer a secret that Saudis have been actively promoting their radical vesion of political Islam throughout the world to counter Iranian Shia Revolution of 1979:
Al-Qa’ida, the second act: Is Saudi Arabia regretting its support for terrorism? - Comment - Voices - The Independent

 

[SipahSalar]

Ummah needs to declare a fatwa against the Salafi school of thought.

 

[Norwegian]

Ummah needs to declare a fatwa against the Salafi school of thought.

No, religious harmony is the key to every human society's success. Today, we Norwegian Muslims formed a ring of humanity outside Oslo's only Jewish Synagogue:

We were about 1300 people, while in Palestine our Muslim and Jewish brothers are bombing each other off because of these lame and ridiculous religious fatwas, dogmas and verdicts!

 

[Kompromat]

@Norwegian - Beggars are not choosers

1: Fix your economy
2: Everything else will fall in place

 

[Norwegian]

1: Fix your economy

Sure, fixing a broken economy might fix lots of things, but it cannot fix Pakistan's eternal problems that are based on culture and religion.

 

[Kompromat]

Sure, fixing a broken economy might fix lots of things, but it cannot fix Pakistan's eternal problems that are based on culture and religion.

Negative. Once you start paying your own bills you can assert your point of view which you can't right now. The role of religion in this domain is grossly overestimated.

 

[Norwegian]

Once you start paying your own bills you can assert your point of view which you can't right now.

Hmm, who is the target here "you"?

 

[Shiji Forces]

Way to go forward:
1. Destroy Lal masjid/Jamia Hafza and arrest all the hard lined terrorists in there.
2. Ban ALL maddrassah that are not certified by state.
3. Start Public Beheadings.
4. All Mulanas to be barred from appearing on TV (Stance like Turkey to be adopted)
5. Saudi Wahabism to be countered and a system of peace among all sects to be established.

 

[pkuser2k12]

In order to eradicate Islamic radicalism from Pakistan, one must reverse everything that started after Bhutto's coup in Pakistan. All these dogmatic religious laws he and his successors made must be repealed like declaring Qadianis non-Muslim, forcing religious minorities to not become Head of State, Head of Army etc.

guess it will also solve leftist urban terrorist problem in Karachi and leftist nationalist firaris slaughtering people in Baluchistan ??? or doses it not qualify as radicalism and terrorism also evident by 21st amendment.

double standards and propaganda by roshan khyals blame it on religion simple and ignore likes of so called leftist liberals and seculars like mqm,anp,ppp,baloch sardars ete etc doing exactly the same and having same casualty rate and equal economic devastation on eople of Pakistan

 

[Kompromat]

Hmm, who is the target here "you"?

Internationally to both friends and foes.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Saudi govt should know that these very kids radicalized with their money are VERY likely to fight and pose a great threat to them in the future.

ISIS sab say zida Saudis k galay hi paray gi aur jesi in ki army hay tu Allah hi hafiz hay abi in k backyard mayn yemen topple ho gaya hay by hotis aur upper side by ISIS ground gain kar rahi hay...