Lets not categorize all in a selective group because of a few. Mistake by many.
Pakistan Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud killed in drone strike.
- Thread starter Sugarcane
- Start date
Lets not categorize all in a selective group because of a few. Mistake by many.
batmannow
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2008
- Messages
- 18,830
- Reaction score
- -19
- Country
- Location
are you crazy or what?
who is killing pushtuns , TTp?
who is TTP, where it came into bieng? & why?
who started this war?
who attacked & started killing PAKARMY, wakeup its not any one but its crimanals within phustuns who calls themselves TTp?
tell me just one name of TTp leader, who not belongs to phutuns ?
fatman17
PDF THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2007
- Messages
- 32,563
- Reaction score
- 98
- Country
- Location
Mullah Radio Could Push Army to Offensive, Say Analysts
Nov 08 2013
By AFP
Shah Marai—AFP
Pakistani Taliban’s new leader is considered enemy number one for the Army due to his actions in Swat.
The Pakistani Taliban’s appointment of a new hardline leader opposed to peace talks and with a long history of attacks against the military could push the Army into launching a fresh offensive, analysts said Friday.
The election of Maulana Fazlullah, notorious for leading the militants’ brutal two-year rule in Swat valley, is like a “red rag to a bull,” one analyst said.
It could also raise tensions with Kabul at a critical juncture as U.S.-led forces withdraw from Afghanistan after 12 years of war.
While Kabul has long accused Islamabad of supporting the Afghan Taliban, Fazlullah has orchestrated cross-border attacks from his hideout in eastern Afghanistan, and Pakistan suspects its neighbor’s intelligence services of supporting him.
Fazlullah, nicknamed Mullah Radio for his fiery sermons over the airwaves denouncing polio vaccination campaigns and female education, is renowned as an uncompromising commander.
Pakistani intelligence believes he is linked to the failed attempt to kill schoolgirl education activist Malala Yousafzai, who was shot in Swat in October 2012.
He was appointed chief of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on Thursday, nearly a week after a U.S. drone strike killed his predecessor Hakimullah Mehsud.
Islamabad reacted angrily to the killing of Mehsud, with the interior minister saying Washington had “sabotaged” peace talks. It is not clear what progress, if any, had been made toward meaningful dialogue—but the process lies in tatters after Fazlullah’s election.
On Thursday, the militants dismissed the idea of peace talks with the government as a “waste of time,” and said they would never negotiate until shariah law was imposed across the country.
Defense analyst Talat Masood, a retired general, said the TTP’s choice of Fazlullah, whose men have carried out bloody and humiliating attacks against the army, was like a “red rag to a bull.”
“This leaves no margin for negotiation and they will have to resort to a military operation and will have to be fully prepared to prevent terrorist actions in the country,” said Masood. “He is enemy number one of the military.”
In September, political parties backed the government’s proposal for talks to try to end the TTP’s six-year insurgency, which has killed thousands. Fazlullah’s men responded by killing two senior Army officers, including a major general, in a roadside bomb—a galling blow to the pride of the military, which remains the most powerful institution in Pakistan.
Fazlullah rubbed salt in the wounds by issuing a video message to claim the attack and to reveal the intended target was Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, the Army’s supreme commander.
In 2009 a major military operation ended Fazlullah’s rule in Swat. Later that year another offensive cleared militant hideouts in South Waziristan, one of the seven tribal areas along the Afghan border seen as a haven for Taliban and Al Qaeda militants. Washington has pushed for a similar offensive in North Waziristan, which has borne the brunt of the U.S. drone campaign targeting suspected militants, but none has yet taken place.
A senior security source said a military operation would “become inevitable” if, as seems likely, dialogue does not proceed, and warned of worsening relations with Kabul. “The government and the military top brass in almost all previous rounds of meetings with their Afghan interlocutors have been pointing out Fazlullah’s presence on Afghan soil and his activities against the Pakistani state,” the source said.
Kayani is to retire on Nov. 29 and his replacement as Army chief has yet to be announced. The security official said Fazlullah’s appointment would have a bearing on the decision. “The priority will now be to have a person on this post, who has expertise in counter insurgency and related matters,” the official said.
Shah Marai—AFP
Pakistani Taliban’s new leader is considered enemy number one for the Army due to his actions in Swat.
The Pakistani Taliban’s appointment of a new hardline leader opposed to peace talks and with a long history of attacks against the military could push the Army into launching a fresh offensive, analysts said Friday.
The election of Maulana Fazlullah, notorious for leading the militants’ brutal two-year rule in Swat valley, is like a “red rag to a bull,” one analyst said.
It could also raise tensions with Kabul at a critical juncture as U.S.-led forces withdraw from Afghanistan after 12 years of war.
While Kabul has long accused Islamabad of supporting the Afghan Taliban, Fazlullah has orchestrated cross-border attacks from his hideout in eastern Afghanistan, and Pakistan suspects its neighbor’s intelligence services of supporting him.
Fazlullah, nicknamed Mullah Radio for his fiery sermons over the airwaves denouncing polio vaccination campaigns and female education, is renowned as an uncompromising commander.
Pakistani intelligence believes he is linked to the failed attempt to kill schoolgirl education activist Malala Yousafzai, who was shot in Swat in October 2012.
He was appointed chief of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on Thursday, nearly a week after a U.S. drone strike killed his predecessor Hakimullah Mehsud.
Islamabad reacted angrily to the killing of Mehsud, with the interior minister saying Washington had “sabotaged” peace talks. It is not clear what progress, if any, had been made toward meaningful dialogue—but the process lies in tatters after Fazlullah’s election.
On Thursday, the militants dismissed the idea of peace talks with the government as a “waste of time,” and said they would never negotiate until shariah law was imposed across the country.
Defense analyst Talat Masood, a retired general, said the TTP’s choice of Fazlullah, whose men have carried out bloody and humiliating attacks against the army, was like a “red rag to a bull.”
“This leaves no margin for negotiation and they will have to resort to a military operation and will have to be fully prepared to prevent terrorist actions in the country,” said Masood. “He is enemy number one of the military.”
In September, political parties backed the government’s proposal for talks to try to end the TTP’s six-year insurgency, which has killed thousands. Fazlullah’s men responded by killing two senior Army officers, including a major general, in a roadside bomb—a galling blow to the pride of the military, which remains the most powerful institution in Pakistan.
Fazlullah rubbed salt in the wounds by issuing a video message to claim the attack and to reveal the intended target was Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, the Army’s supreme commander.
In 2009 a major military operation ended Fazlullah’s rule in Swat. Later that year another offensive cleared militant hideouts in South Waziristan, one of the seven tribal areas along the Afghan border seen as a haven for Taliban and Al Qaeda militants. Washington has pushed for a similar offensive in North Waziristan, which has borne the brunt of the U.S. drone campaign targeting suspected militants, but none has yet taken place.
A senior security source said a military operation would “become inevitable” if, as seems likely, dialogue does not proceed, and warned of worsening relations with Kabul. “The government and the military top brass in almost all previous rounds of meetings with their Afghan interlocutors have been pointing out Fazlullah’s presence on Afghan soil and his activities against the Pakistani state,” the source said.
Kayani is to retire on Nov. 29 and his replacement as Army chief has yet to be announced. The security official said Fazlullah’s appointment would have a bearing on the decision. “The priority will now be to have a person on this post, who has expertise in counter insurgency and related matters,” the official said.
CENTCOM
PROFESSIONAL
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2010
- Messages
- 1,519
- Reaction score
- 34
- Country
- Location
Dear Batman,
I guess you did not know that Hakimullah Mehsud was a declared enemy of the United States. He was the one who took responsibility of the attack on the forward operating Base, Chapman, in Khost. Seven senior CIA officials were killed in that attack. He had also claimed responsibility for the 2010 failed attempt to bomb “Times Square.” The TTP have repeatedly warned the Pakistanis against working with the United States. Like I had said before, these are our common enemies who have hurt people of both nations. I guess this will also be news to you that both Pakistan and the United States share intelligence and work together on security and counter terrorism issues.
Abdul Quddus
DET- United States Central Command
www.centcon.mil/ur
BATMAN
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2007
- Messages
- 29,895
- Reaction score
- -28
- Country
- Location
TTP has not only repeatedly warned Pakistan, they have successful exploded about 10k bombs/year in Pakistan and much more... may be for the reasons you mentioned 'US'..... but other than couple of cosmetic punches, you both ignored each other.
There is no logic to connect US bombings with some uneducated bunch, who ignored Indo/US presence, in same region, where US was desperately looking for its enemy #1, instead B.Mehsud, went all the way to US to deliver a fail.
Since, you want to discuss, what TTP claim, than may be you remember, B.Mehsud stated to tribal leaders, in buy out meeting, that he has more money available than the annual budget of Pakistan.
Who on the earth have so much $ in stocks? what kind of logistics was used to move such amount of money to a common villager of Pakistan, defeating all the systems of the world. Are we not missing some thing?
In 2007, TTP openly offered a reward of $5k to $10K to tribals, for killing a foreigner in Pakistan.
Followed by, overnight, occupation of SWAT.. which was a regular military advance, which obviously require much more than a well trained/armed men. Questions is; when, where & how did one man build and trained this international army.
We know current chief of TTP was a lift operator in 2005, and grew up as faggot, but in 2006 he was already target killing army generals at will and knew when army camps would be populated and where are the safe houses of Pakistan security agencies including police.
Where as B.Mehsud was even worst, who had never seen similar looking pair of shoes in his life, before waking upto the leadership of a heavenly made TTP, with all its reasons, resources and influences.
Forget the war... how come US paid for a dam on Kabul river without consulting Pakistan and how come Pakistan's foreign office and regime remain oblivious until dam's India staff open its spill ways, to unleash flash floods, leading to loss of life and economy. Why shall it not be called an act of terrorism.
And, It was by chance, that at the same time BLA got rebirth, and again with all the resources, toys, men and money.
We have long stories of long 5 years, and all the suffering was not because of TTP.
In the end there is very little to suggest that interests of US are in line with Pakistan and TTP has any thing to do with US, other than occasional drone attack to retire its chief.
Last edited:
Similar threads
