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Pakistan should invite Russian President Vildamir Putin on 23rd March pakistan republic day

I think the same for you. :-D

You mention china is behind improving Russia's relations with Pakistan. the fact rather is its pakistan's decade long effort starting from mushy followed by zardari and now Nawaz that bore some fruit.

Even if you assume it's china that pushed russia...and you have no proof of that - you are just assuming so - what good is a reluctant relationship that doesn't have any tangible benefits?.

It's true that russia looks at pakistan with some interest - but not as counter weight to India but as a military with some control over the terrorism emanating from that region. The Russians are paranoid about it, especially after the US decided to move away from Afghanistan. They are more worried about Afghanistan and central Asia than about pakistan....because they do not want another front in their south east against Islamic terrorists....which tend to rear it's head every time the US leaves a conflict zone.

Frankly they do not want a new resurgent taliban, AQ or a local version of ISIS in that region.

They will keep you engaged for sure, and true that they will look at diversifying their sales..but not at the cost of India. Their defense minister was expressly dispatched to India before Obama's visit to drive home the point.
 
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You mention china is behind improving Russia's relations with Pakistan. the fact rather is its pakistan's decade long effort starting from mushy followed by zardari and now Nawaz that bore some fruit.

Even if you assume it's china that pushed russia...and you have no proof of that - you are just assuming so - what good is a reluctant relationship that doesn't have any tangible benefits?.

It's true that russia looks at pakistan with some interest - but not as counter weight to India but as a military with some control over the terrorism emanating from that region. The Russians are paranoid about it, especially after the US decided to move away from Afghanistan. They are more worried about Afghanistan and central Asia than about pakistan....because they do not want another front in their south east against Islamic terrorists....which tend to rear it's head every time the US leaves a conflict zone.

Frankly they do not want a new resurgent taliban, AQ or a local version of ISIS in that region.

They will keep you engaged for sure, and true that they will look at diversifying their sales..but not at the cost of India. Their defense minister was expressly dispatched to India before Obama's visit to drive home the point.

Well here is my two cents and i maybe wrong for the understanding of world affairs and keen observation.after all everyone has their own prespective of understanding things but according to me you limit your insight when you look at russia, china, india and pakistan and count afghanistan in it too.

You see West is pushing Russia into a war with this whole facade of Ukraine which really backfired on them. Imposing sanctions on Russia and dipping the Oil markets which is effecting Russia heavily. So Russia needs a come back to answer West, yes you can the say the cold war has started again. The West wants to dominate Russia and all in all China, India and Pakistan are directly involved. The West is going to use India against China and China will use Pakistan against India.

I hope this make senses to you because we know Pakistan is going to be totally annihilated by Indian nukes and the Chinese know this too. So this is where China sees an opportunity and tells Pakistan look your going to go down but i want you to dump all your nuclear arsenal in India before you go down as to do maximum damage to India. If Pakistan empties its nuclear arsenal in India which it will because Pakistan is stockpiling its nuclear aresnal for one purpose only to send India back to stoneage and who comes out as a super power? Yes China.

So China is using Pakistan for its own interest and trust me it wont waste this opportunity if Pakistan and India go in a full war. China needs to make sure India doesnt stand on its feet again and it might even finish what Pakistan started.

Its all about power and control so before you go ranting on destroying Pakistan and China you need to do your SWOT anaylsis.

I maybe wrong but this is just my opinion!

Have a nice time
 
Well here is my two cents and i maybe wrong for the understanding of world affairs and keen observation.after all everyone has their own prespective of understanding things but according to me you limit your insight when you look at russia, china, india and pakistan and count afghanistan in it too.

You see West is pushing Russia into a war with this whole facade of Ukraine which really backfired on them. Imposing sanctions on Russia and dipping the Oil markets which is effecting Russia heavily. So Russia needs a come back to answer West, yes you can the say the cold war has started again. The West wants to dominate Russia and all in all China, India and Pakistan are directly involved. The West is going to use India against China and China will use Pakistan against India.

I hope this make senses to you because we know Pakistan is going to be totally annihilated by Indian nukes and the Chinese know this too. So this is where China sees an opportunity and tells Pakistan look your going to go down but i want you to dump all your nuclear arsenal in India before you go down as to do maximum damage to India. If Pakistan empties its nuclear arsenal in India which it will because Pakistan is stockpiling its nuclear aresnal for one purpose only to send India back to stoneage and who comes out as a super power? Yes China.

So China is using Pakistan for its own interest and trust me it wont waste this opportunity if Pakistan and India go in a full war. China needs to make sure India doesnt stand on its feet again and it might even finish what Pakistan started.

Its all about power and control so before you go ranting on destroying Pakistan and China you need to do your SWOT anaylsis.

I maybe wrong but this is just my opinion!

Have a nice time

Yes, you are wrong by a very long shot - about russia - not about the wet dreams of pakistanis and a few bangladeshi here.

Here's how russia operates, russia looks at securing it's borders first and foremost, secondly it looks at securing it's allies.

The Ukraine front was a deliberate move by russia to prevent it from entering the EU. More than the Americans, it's the europeans who are worried by Russia's move, and I don't think china (forget pakistan) is moving any day against the EU.

China is only good as far as èconimics go for russia...Russia very well knows that the Chinese will not be fighting for them and neither will the Chinese antagonise the west - it's biggest market for Russia's fight.

Russian allies Libya and Syria were destroyed by the West - so there's another front that the Russians are worried about.

Add to that, the west along with Saudis heavily manipulating crude prices to hurt the Russians.

They do not want to add a Islamic terrorism Front like the taliban or in a worst case scenario - something like the isis in their vulnerable central Asian region - the key to terrorism is the AF pak region from where most of the trouble emanates.

Now, which is the only decent military in that region?...The Pakistanis....The Russians just like the Americans and the chinese have Asia vested interest in trying to rid the region of terrorists because both the Russians and the Chinese are affected by it.

Islamic terrorism from CA and Af pak is something that is a common worry for the Russians Americans the Chinese and Indians.
 
Well first we should quash the confusion of what we want to do regarding security and terrorism. Only then we will be able to stage March 23 rally and only then we will invite some global leaders.
 
No more off-topic posts please.
 
So when is this going to happen? The Indus's source is China, a little talk here and there, some diversions and that won't be a problem anymore.

That leaves the Jhelum and Chenab. Fair enough you have control. But I'm pretty sure Indian wouldn't contemplate using such an option, which could have a detrimental affect on water disputes you have with China.
Water stoppage can never be an option. That's an equivalent of WMD (may be worse). In all the wars between India and Pakistan, the civilians have never been intentionally targeted. So I think these are just point scoring opportunities on forums etc. Not viable options on the ground.
 
Russia, thanks to Putin has become a non-entity. I will not at all be surprised if Putin is not 'sidelined' soon.

The economic sanctions, the dramatic drop in oil prices and the run-up in dollar currency have made Russian economy to be a nightmare. Inflation, additional demands of Putin's aggressive expansionist dreams are putting unimaginable SYSTEMIC pressure. On top of that, Iran and even Cuba are making deals with the US, Venezuela soon perhaps.

Putin is way too egotistic to make deals with China.
 
Water stoppage can never be an option. That's an equivalent of WMD (may be worse). In all the wars between India and Pakistan, the civilians have never been intentionally targeted. So I think these are just point scoring opportunities on forums etc. Not viable options on the ground.
Its not my view,during the recent cease violation some Rtd. Generals proposed this and even to revoke indus water treaty if Pak should not honour the ceasefire agreement.

Water stoppage can never be an option. That's an equivalent of WMD (may be worse). In all the wars between India and Pakistan, the civilians have never been intentionally targeted. So I think these are just point scoring opportunities on forums etc. Not viable options on the ground.
Its not my view,during the recent cease violation some Rtd. Generals proposed this and even to revoke indus water treaty if Pak should not honour the ceasefire agreement.
 
Fact is Russia will never upset India as our pakistani brothers are dreaming.. its late and i am sleepy.. but i will give only one example.. Russian 5th Gen PakFa is running on indian money.. India already pumped over millions of $$ .. and many more new deals are on the pipe line from Nuclear Reactors to Warships to Subs worth Billions of $$....At the moment Russia needs India more than India to Russia..

Gn everyone :)
 
Does Pakistan want to get insulted by Russia if they denied to come on 23rd March?:big_boss:
 
Given the current condition in Pakistan nobody will come. I even doubt republic day will happen.
 
Well first we should quash the confusion of what we want to do regarding security and terrorism. Only then we will be able to stage March 23 rally and only then we will invite some global leaders.
Agree, after 2-3 consecutive, safe and successful parads anyone could be invited.
 
Not sure who to invite but Pakistan really does need to have a army parade day to show off. The country needs days like these to boost morale. No point hiding anymore.
 
Inviting Chinese President on 23rd March will be much better option then that, because we have to sign many deals with them and it could be as big for Pakistan as Obama visit of India to Indians.


a communist dictator on Republic day ???:what::what:

lol
 

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