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Pakistan should invite Russian President Vildamir Putin on 23rd March pakistan republic day

Obama has more chance of coming than Putin.
 
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well Pakistan already acquired Hq-9 from China i guess , maybe next year they will buy more batteries .. who knows .. why i said its good to have small or med range SAMS from Russia is that because both countries need to start from small stuff , we cant just ask them to give us Mig 35's or any other planes ...we should not scare the Russian with our wish list :D

PA need SAMS for protecting its troops from IAF onslaught and ground and air launched munitions in any future war and China offer advance versions of short and mid range SAMS then Russia then why purchase from Russia when we have limited funds?

Do pakistan have republic parade like india ?

Yes, Its Called Pakistan day parade on 23rd March.
 
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Rather than Pakistan, having Chines premier in your ceremony provides much needed value rather than Russian one...It is not like I am jealous, but Russian are not the same kind of power as they are 30 years ago...So if your policy is only for Arms and defence equipment then of course Russian are after US but if it is for stategic moves, China is the best bet for Pakistan.
 
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What putrid pile of rubbish, filled with your personal-bias. "So do you think Russia will sell arms to Pakistan and for what ? Few million dollars and loss it's best friend and that to friend with deep pockets ? I guess not". Okay based on your premise, like india is laying in the lap of their new father 'the west'?! Way to treat a 'best friend'. What a buffoon you are.

Ps. On a side note, China offers way more than india, by way of monetary-strategic-gains, to the Russians. One could equate india's transactions with the Russians as 'charity funds'.


Since you don't know about Russians hear from one of their best friend. Rite Now Russians ARE Short Of nearly 30 billion dollars for their economic mess . AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE POSITION FOR CHARITY Funds. They need lots of money. They are literally selling what ever they have to get money and build their armed forces to out match China and Americans. Now why Russians want to sell weapons to Pakistan ? Any way pakistan is cash strapped now. May be Chinese provide funds ? They should be . But already lots of funds been dispatched to Pakistan on soft loan for building war ships fighter jets etc. And Pakistan also want more jf 17 and new 6 submatines which will cost a huge amount from Chinese budget. But things have changed China is not growing but slowing down. They need money to build up their fleets .

Coming to ur point . Russia used it to push India to fast track the deals and pour in Money into russian economy. That's what we saw few days ago before Obama visit . There must have been a understanding between India and Russia . Surely India should have complained about arm sales to China and Pakistan and problems on joint ventures tot. So both must have agreed to solve issues and back to normal. In fact we decided to fast track joint ventures and ink the deal as soon as possible to fund Russians. Including new lease for 2 nuclear submarine and FGFA MTA programme, mini bramos , Bramos A , Super Sukoi and additional 3 russian frigate which India already have capacity to build on their own. Which see nearly more than 10 billion dollars atleast . AND NO WONDER IF INDIA HELPED RUSSIA WITH CREDIT to solve their crisis. It will be hush hush .

So do you think russia will sell arms to Pakistan and for what ? Few million dollars and loss it's best friend and that to friend with deep pockets ? I guess not .

But Mr.Putin is not well for sometimes now. He has entered into state of trance where only war with NATO is the only option to come out of this state. So he might go ahead and abandon India and go ahead with Pakistan . Am sure Indo US close cooperation should have been discussed. During surprise visit of Russian Defence Minister meeting with Indian Defence Minister . And India must have conveyed it's point of view and it's own national threat from china and pakistan. Which Russia will presumably ll be mum until N word drops during war.

So there is no reason for Russians to sell weapons to Pakistan unless trance state of Mr. PUTIN make him fully crazy . :police:
 
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PA need SAMS for protecting its troops from IAF onslaught and ground and air launched munitions in any future war and China offer advance versions of short and mid range SAMS then Russia then why purchase from Russia when we have limited funds?



Yes, Its Called Pakistan day parade on 23rd March.

as i said, we can buy anything from China anytime , all we need is money .. but from Russia we need to build up relationship and trust ...
small Deals can turn into big ones . but as i said we have to patience with Russians , we must give the bear breathing space :D
 
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IMO if Pakistan invites Russia then it will be be seen in a bad taste by USA. Remember USA is still beside Pakistan on paper and for the sake of it, they are still willing to give aids and donations, but currently Russia is the main enemy of USA , so if Pakistan makes a move like this, particularly to counter India-USA meet, then this might make USA irate.

On the other hand however, i do not think Russia will prefer Pakistan over India. Russia and India have been friends for long enough and they understand the interest of each other. Just like Russia understands the "interests" of India, India too understands what are the "needs and interests" of Russia and the best part is both are always engaged in deals and agreements so heavy, that there is never any room for conflicts of real interests.Moreover the people to people connect and the cultural connect is also very high. So you can rest assured that Russia will never leave this partnership with India for the sake of few deals with Pakistan.
 
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as i said, we can buy anything from China anytime , all we need is money .. but from Russia we need to build up relationship and trust ...
small Deals can turn into big ones . but as i said we have to patience with Russians , we must give the bear breathing space :D

If Russian mobile short & mid range SAMS are better then What China then we should buy them if not then No. Pakistan can look into Russian subs, MRAPs, IFVs, fighter jets, avionics, jet engines, assault rifles etc for purchase if they are bang of the buck.
 
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as i said, we can buy anything from China anytime , all we need is money .. but from Russia we need to build up relationship and trust ...
small Deals can turn into big ones . but as i said we have to patience with Russians , we must give the bear breathing space :D

We will take care of russia..don't worry..btw..


Russian defence minister meets Narendra Modi - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site

Russian defense minister visited India a day before the American president landed.
 
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PA need SAMS for protecting its troops from IAF onslaught and ground and air launched munitions in any future war and China offer advance versions of short and mid range SAMS then Russia then why purchase from Russia when we have limited funds?



Yes, Its Called Pakistan day parade on 23rd March.

The day parade you described can be found like in year 2008 on youtube.I think in recent years, no public parade like in india on pakistan displaying military might.
 
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well Pakistan already acquired Hq-9 from China i guess , maybe next year they will buy more batteries .. who knows .. why i said its good to have small or med range SAMS from Russia is that because both countries need to start from small stuff , we cant just ask them to give us Mig 35's or any other planes ...we should not scare the Russian with our wish list :D
Its good to keep a wishlist. But I don't think Russians are in any position to give equipment based on good will or as 'soft loans'.
 
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