Pakistan & Russia agree to give fresh impetus to bilateral & economic ties

[Righteous_Fire]

Pakistan & Russia agree to give fresh impetus to bilateral & economic ties​

BEIJING, Oct 14 (APP): Pakistan and Russia on Wednesday agreed to “re-launch their relationship and re-engage each other” to strengthen their bilateral and economic relations, in a bid to give new dimension to their ties. Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, who met on the sidelines of Shanghai Cooperation Organization here, vowed to adopt a policy of understanding in all fields of mutual interest.



The meeting scheduled for thirty minutes, lasted for one hour and fifteen minutes and discussed several important issues including fight against terrorism.

Prime Minister Gilani in an exclusive talk with APP said his interaction with Russian prime minister was held in a “meaningful, important and friendly environment”.

“There was unanimity of views on all issues of mutual interest,” he said, adding that Pakistan and Russia agreed to adopt regional approach towards dealing important challenges.

Gilani said Prime Minister Putin supported Pakistan’s stance on war on terror and offered to increase the capacity-building of its law enforcement agencies.

The Russian Prime Minister agreed to pursue the policy of counter-terrorism for ensuring regional peace, he said.

“Prime Minister Putin acknowledged Pakistan’s role in overcoming domestic challenges of terrorism and extremism, and expressed sympathies for loss being incurred in this regard,” he said.

Prime Minister Gilani said he conveyed to Russian prime minister that his country could play an important role in eradicating terrorism and extremism from the region.

He said Putin agreed to support Pakistan’s membership in Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Gilani endorsed Putin’s suggestion for giving new dimension to the economic cooperation between Pakistan and Russia.

Later Pakistan’s Ambassador to China Masood Khan told APP that there was “warmth and good chemistry” between the two leaders as they met for the first time.

He said both leaders engaged each other on entire system of Pak-Russia relations and expressed to take actions to make it more productive.

Both leaders expressed their strong desire to “re-engage each other and re-launch the relationship” to help resolve regional issues, he said.

Putin said Pakistan was an important country in the region and Russia would support Pakistan and India’s composite dialogue.

The two prime ministers agreed that collective regional efforts were required to eliminate terrorism from the region to usher in peace and stability, and redirect all energies towards economic interaction among the members of SCO.

Both leaders agreed to hold the first meeting of the already established Inter-Governmental Commission in the coming December.

Prime Minister Putin said Moscow would be interested in exploring cooperation in the fields of oil and gas and would be supportive for the completion of Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project.

Both leaders said although the relations between Pakistan and Russia had developed over a period of time, yet there was a need to increase the volume of trade between them.

“Russia agreed that it will actively support projects to upgrade Pakistan Steel Mills and to lay new railways tracks in Pakistan,” the ambassador said.

Putin said Russia would like Pakistan to play a pro-active role in resolving regional issues.

The Pakistani side included Ambassador Masood Khan and Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir.​

APP

 

[Hyde]

He said Putin agreed to support Pakistan’s membership in Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

here is the tie for news of the month

F-16s news + above mentioned comments are two great news of this month

 

[Righteous_Fire]

here is the tie for news of the month

F-16s news + above mentioned comments are two great news of this month

I agree more or less, remember, this new line of diplomacy maybe just the kind of response after India has decided to sideline its Russia friendship and has gone to bed with the US..

I borrowed those words, "gone to bed" as quoted in news articles so as to stress what the Indian people are being made to do to themselves.

There are many deals it has signed with the US that clearly undermine India's self reliant and Independent stance that had existed ever since its independence.

That is something that even Pakistanis like myself are worried about, as we all know what the US does to it "friends."

I hope in any such "friendship", India wont allow itself to be manipulated or abused, because that is something, which is bad for all the players in the sub continent, Pakistan or India likewise .

I would advise Indians to benefit from this relationship but not at the expense of critical values and notions, something which can be achieved only with continued and great vigilance.

 

[Screaming Skull]

I agree more or less, remember, this new line of diplomacy maybe just the kind of response after India has decided to sideline its Russia friendship and has gone to bed with the US..

I borrowed those words, "gone to bed" as quoted in news articles so as to stress what the Indian people are being made to do to themselves.

There are many deals it has signed with the US that clearly undermine India's self reliant and Independent stance that had existed ever since its independence.

That is something that even Pakistanis like myself are worried about, as we all know what the US does to it "friends."

I hope in any such "friendship", India wont allow itself to be manipulated or abused, because that is something, which is bad for all the players in the sub continent, Pakistan or India likewise .

I would advise Indians to benefit from this relationship but not at the expense of critical values and notions, something which can be achieved only with continued and great vigilance.

Come on now let s not get get carried away! It s great that Pakistan is building good relationship with Russia but it will be fallacy to believe that this relationship will be at the expense of India-Russia ties.
Even as you guys discuss this development, take a look at what the Indian defence minister is doing in Moscow

India-Russia to extend military cooperation till 2020

 

[Spitfighter]

Russia will not risk alienating India over Pakistan. Not only do we have deal worth billions in the pipeline with the Russians, there's a real chance that India and Pakistan may go to war. So there's no need to get carried away, these are just words, it won't translate into anything. That makes for only one 'great news'.

 

[navtrek]

I agree more or less, remember, this new line of diplomacy maybe just the kind of response after India has decided to sideline its Russia friendship and has gone to bed with the US..

I borrowed those words, "gone to bed" as quoted in news articles so as to stress what the Indian people are being made to do to themselves.

There are many deals it has signed with the US that clearly undermine India's self reliant and Independent stance that had existed ever since its independence.

That is something that even Pakistanis like myself are worried about, as we all know what the US does to it "friends."

I hope in any such "friendship", India wont allow itself to be manipulated or abused, because that is something, which is bad for all the players in the sub continent, Pakistan or India likewise .

I would advise Indians to benefit from this relationship but not at the expense of critical values and notions, something which can be achieved only with continued and great vigilance.

You know India & Russia relations is more than buying and selling weapons,Our relations with Russia is not just Business or Ideology or a common enemy. Its more than that

And i bet this is how a majority of Indian's and Russians feel.
as far as going to bed with America,Its a great country with so many Indians there we generally get to have a good relation & now that there are so many prominent Indian origin people in top jobs of white house.
It just makes things better

Nice to see Pakistan-Russia relations blooming. Hope to see it further strengthened.

 

[navtrek]

Pakistan's ties with Russia will help in having good ties with India.

 

[Righteous_Fire]

Russia will not risk alienating India over Pakistan. Not only do we have deal worth billions in the pipeline with the Russians, there's a real chance that India and Pakistan may go to war. So there's no need to get carried away, these are just words, it won't translate into anything. That makes for only one 'great news'.

You two(Spitfighter; screamingSkull) have obviously missed the point here..........

No one ever said anything about Russia leaving India

However, as I said, this is the beginning of a new line of diplomacy, by Russia.

As for the Pakistani side, our aim is what has always been the aim of our Foreign Policy, make friends everywhere possible.!! What transpired between Russia and Pakistan in the 80s and 90s is unfortunate and must I say un avoidable since we were fearing for and defending our future from the risk of the announced "warm waters access"

However, Pakistan knows it is important to have good relations with Russia, in all fields, now that that un avoidable situation is over.

As for the Russian side, only a Russian guy can truly represent Russia here, but analysts have been saying on similar lines, If India wants to get along with the US and in many ways over preference to Russia as it did in the past, the Russians too are adopting a policy to clearly show, "you can not always have your hands in both pies" .

Whether this approach means China vis a vis India or any other, the Russians are not naive, sure they can digest India's growing love with the US but upto a point. A point the Indians are not willing to think over or see, they are not gonna sacrifice their own interests just because India was a huge buyer of their weapons

They are going to have well developed, long term contingency plans as well.

In all of these future diplomatic dynamics, Pakistan might play a very minor role or none at all, But there are many other ways than just Pakistan.

 

[navtrek]

You two(Spitfighter; screamingSkull) have obviously missed the point here..........

No one ever said anything about Russia leaving India

However, as I said, this is the beginning of a new line of diplomacy, by Russia.

As for the Pakistani side, our aim is what has always been the aim of our Foreign Policy, make friends everywhere possible.!! What transpired between Russia and Pakistan in the 80s and 90s is unfortunate and must I say un avoidable since we were fearing for and defending our future from the risk of the announced "warm waters access"

However, Pakistan knows it is important to have good relations with Russia, in all fields, now that that un avoidable situation is over.

As for the Russian side, only a Russian guy can truly represent Russia here, but analysts have been saying on similar lines, If India wants to get along with the US and in many ways over preference to Russia as it did in the past, the Russians too are adopting a policy to clearly show, "you can not always have your hands in both pies" .

Whether this approach means China vis a vis India or any other, the Russians are not naive, sure they can digest India's growing love with the US but upto a point. A point the Indians are not willing to think over or see, they are not gonna sacrifice their own interests just because India was a huge buyer of their weapons

They are going to have well developed, long term contingency plans as well.

In all of these future diplomatic dynamics, Pakistan might play a very minor role or none at all, But there are many other ways than just Pakistan.

You reading too much in to it buddy Time and again everyone feel's India is next to America but then U know where we truly lie.

Increased Co-op with America will help India,And our foreign policy has always been of Non Alignment

 

[Righteous_Fire]

Pakistan's ties with Russia will help in having good ties with India.

I agree, this will be a good thing for the whole region, all in all

Increased Co-op with America will help India,And our foreign policy has always been of Non Alignment

I sure hope so, Dont say we didnt "WARN" you

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The world appears to be moving away from a position of international relationships being 'zero sum games'.

This is evident in India's courting of the US, despite its long relationship with the USSR/Russia, and in India and China's own economic ties.

India is not ditching Russia, it is diversifying. China is not ditching Pakistan, or for that matter blindly trusting India, it is taking advantage of whatever common ground is available with India.

Similarly, if the opportunities exist, Russia and Pakistan will expand their bilateral relationship as well, but that does not mean Russia is ditching India.

 

[batmannow]

Gilani, Putin agree to strengthen ties
By Shamim-ur-Rahman
Thursday, 15 Oct, 2009
www.dawn.com

BEIJING: Pakistan and Russia agreed on Wednesday to re-launch their inter-governmental commission by the end of this year to revatalise bilateral relations, with focus on infrastructure development, energy, rail link, heavy industry and upgradation of Pakistan Steel.
The agreement was reached at a meeting between Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin held here on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.

During the meeting which lasted about an hour and fifteen minutes, they agreed on the need for re-engaging relations, according to Pakistan’s Ambassador Masood Khan who briefed the media on the talks between the two leaders.

Mr Putin said his country would support Pakistan’s request for full membership of the SCO and indicated that he would back resumption of composite dialogue between India and Pakistan because reduction of tension between the two countries would facilitate improvement of Moscow’s relations with Islamabad.

Mr Gilani briefed Mr Putin on Pakistan’s initiative for resumption of composite dialogue with India and his meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and urged Mr Putin to persuade New Delhi to resume talks.
About the security situation in and around Afghanistan, both leaders said that despite difficulties in resolving the Afghan issue efforts must continue to find a way out. Mr Putin said his country could play an important role in eradicating terrorism and extremism from the region.

He said Russia would be interested in exploring cooperation in the fields of oil and gas and would support the completion of Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project.

With regard to Pakistan’s action against terrorists and militants in Swat, according to sources, Mr Putin termed it ‘an act of courage which shows you are determined to take on the challenge’. He appreciated the efforts of Pakistan in fighting terrorism and said that his country faced a similar situation but dealt it with an iron hand.

Earlier, addressing the meeting of the SCO Council of Heads of Governments, Mr Gilani sought full membership of the organisation and said such a step would promote regional stability.

Mr Gilani said the ‘SCO must assume the lead in initiating a high-level strategic dialogue engaging the spectrum of its association, members, observers and partners, to crystallise and prioritise a comprehensive and large-scale trans-regional development agenda’.
He also called for working out ‘practical modalities to craft investment instruments for win-win project cooperation in the areas of energy and infrastructure connectivity as also for exploiting the region’s vast mineral, industrial and agricultural resources’.

He said free trade was the only option. ‘To enable the regional economies to shield themselves from the vagaries of financial turmoil, what we trade, how much and in what manner must assume high priority,’ he said.

He added that ‘currency swap arrangements must be put in place, alongside trade promotion and facilitation measures’.

 

[r3alist]

i dont know what to make of this, i agree both with what agnostic muslim says and righteous fire, only time will tell, all we can do is speculate about future relations.

the way i assess it is that is there is a scenario where one can see russia/india relations seriously taking a nosedive over some issue?

for example, india/iran relations have dipped over nuclear issue and ipi, is there a comparable scenario for russia/india?

to my knowledge there is no issue.

cosy relations between india/russia only need seriously affect russian thinking if india start acting against russian interests?

can anyone honestly say this will happen?


however if india do start to favour the us too much i can see more opportunities for pakistan, small-ish opportunities because i dont think russia wants to isolate india and force india's hand.

 

[Spitfighter]

India-Pakistan relations are nothing like US-Russian relations, so this isn't simply about 'diversification'. We have fought wars in the past, including one after nuclear weapons were tested. India can impress that upon our Russian friends.

Furthermore, I'm don't think Pakistan has much to offer, so to put it frankly, Pakistan isn't worth antagonizing India at the moment.

 

[arya]

I would advise Indians to benefit from this relationship but not at the expense of critical values and notions, something which can be achieved only with continued and great vigilance.

Sir thaks for ur advise.
wtb we know very well who is friend n who is enemy
regards.