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Putin to visit India in November for 13th Annual Indo-Russian Summit

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Russian President Vladimir Putin will visit India in November. Source: AP


The change in the Russian President’s plans has nothing to do with reports in the Pakistani media that Putin will be making a maiden visit to India’s neighbour in the middle of October 2012.

The Pakistani media has given extensive coverage about Putin’s upcoming visit to Islamabad and analysts in that country have described it as a sort of game-changer considering that no Russian President has ever visited Pakistan before.


Significantly, there is no official confirmation of Putin’s visit to Pakistan as yet. :P

Sources point out that even if the visit were to materialise, it won’t be a bilateral visit as Putin would be going to Pakistan, if he were to go there eventually, for attending a quadrilateral summit, also featuring Afghanistan and Tajikistan.
:lol: :agree:The last quadrilateral summit was held in 2011in Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, where the four nations called upon the United States-led NATO forces to have a set-up of fully trained local forces in place before they pull out from Afghanistan.


Sources said Putin’s India visit has been deferred by “a few days” because of difficulties in matching the two sides’ diplomatic calendars. Now Putin is expected to visit India in the first week of November 2012, maybe on November 1.


A lot of important issues will be on the table when Putin holds delegation-level talks with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. However, the most sensitive and controversial issue will be that of Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project (KNPP), being built with the Russian help. The first two units of the project in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu are ready. Each unit has the installed capacity of 1000 MW and has cost US$2 billion. The problem is with KNPP’s Units 3 and 4 which the Indian government has already put on the fast-track mode.



Units 3 and 4 have become a major challenge for Indian and Russian diplomats today. The Indians have told the Russians that Units 3 and 4 will be covered under the Indian liability laws with regard to a possible nuclear accident. The foreign vendors involved in nuclear power projects in India will be required to shell out up to US$ 500 million in damages in case of a nuclear mishap, according to the Indian nuclear liability laws.


The Russians argue against this. Moscow says it “grandfathered” the KNPP way back in 1988 and therefore units 3 and 4 of the project have to be kept out of the liability laws just as units 1 and 2 of KNPP are. The Indians’ counter-argument is that if they were to make an exception for the Russians in this case, it would create problems for the Indian Government vis-a-vis the Americans and the French, who are visibly upset with the new Indian nuclear liability laws. The diplomatic corps of the Russia and India are believed to be racing against time and efforts are on through diplomatic channels to work out a mutually agreeable formula on this thorny issue.


Another important highlight of Putin’s India visit is going to be the FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) project, a joint Indo-Russian project that will cost $35 billion to the two sides on 50:50 basis. The ambitious project entails joint production of one thousand aircraft over the next four decades, two hundred each for Russia and India and six hundred for sale to other countries. A Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) has been signed between India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Russia’s Rosoboronexport and Sukhoi. If all goes well, a formal agreement on FGFA project may be signed between Putin and Singh during Putin’s upcoming India visit, sources said.



The commercial relations between India and Russia are strengthening steadily over the past few years, evidently a result of the Indo-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission on Trade, Economic, Scientific, Technological and Cultural Cooperation (IRIGC-TEC) set up in 2007. The bilateral trade has been growing steadily – from US$ 7.5 billion in 2009, to US$ 8.5 billion in 2010 and to US$ 8.9 billion in 2011 and is expected to cross US$ 15 billion in 2012. :coffee:

Putin to visit India in November for 13th Annual Indo-Russian Summit | Russia & India Report
 
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how could russia will forgot those nations had hands leads to bifurcation of great russia into many parts ??? its the time to do checkmate to those nations from russia.
 
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how could russia will forgot those nations had hands leads to bifurcation of great russia into many parts ??? its the time to do checkmate to those nations from russia.

just how they forgot that US was behind what happened in Soviet-Afghan war!
U.S.-Russia Cooperation on Afghanistan

See??
Its international politics!
No personal friendship or grudge is more important than national interests!
 
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The relentless pursuit of national interests trumps all in international geopolitics. Those who do not learn this lesson are bound to fail.
A new geo-political block of nations, is underway russia & china doesn't want to see USA & its allies, capturing country aftr country, like in siryan case both, had put their veto against any aggresion against siryan govt?
Now with gawadar under chinese managment & growing tenssions between IRAN & Usa +israel, russia needs its parternership of the regional powers like pakistAn & iran, that's why even manmohan jee, also be visiting islamabad soon.
India has showen itself , a greater partner of US & was seen a bad force in mascow & bejing at same times
As both china & russia nt trust indian aims & objectives in the region.
 
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A new geo-political block of nations, is underway russia & china doesn't want to see USA & its allies, capturing country aftr country, like in siryan case both, had put their veto against any aggresion against siryan govt?.........

Yeah, and we can all see just how effective that veto has been!
 
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Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafiq Butt on Tuesday said ‘it was excellent visit with positive outcome and we can expect greater cooperation with Russia in the field of defence, particularly in air defence.’

if the report is accurate, i guess i can conclude my speculation wasn't TOO far off the mark

interesting development

how could russia will forgot those nations had hands leads to bifurcation of great russia into many parts ??? its the time to do checkmate to those nations from russia.

the (former) soviet union played a role in arming our enemies so it works both ways.....

most Russians today don't even care about the old soviet union; they've moved on. Similarly, most Pakistanis could care less about 1971 and it's never even brought up in day to day discussions.

of course if you were to approach me even as late as the 1990s, i'd never guess that Moscow and Islamabad would be even broaching the subject of defence cooperation; in fact this recent visit is the first of its kind between said officials.


as i said -- no harm in talking.....discussing parameters, needs, etc. Business is business. That's why even though i "disapprove" of certain allies or ostensible allies arming india with - say - Poseidons or Apache gunships - I don't take it personally. Nobody should. Just have contingencies in place. I trust the uniformed defenders of the great nation to satisfy that objective.
 
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Great, Pakistan boosting its relations with this drunkard Slavic skinhead state.
 
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Yeah, and we can all see just how effective that veto has been!

well to the extent that sanctions haven't been imposed and a no-fly zone hasn't been realized - it has been fairly effective
 
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IP Pipeline Project= Russia offered to build it without biding.
CASA= Russia offered $500 millions to finance the project.
Steel MILL = Russia promised to expansion of Pakistan steel mill from 1.1million capacity to 1.5 million capacity of steel.
Guddu And Muzaffargarh Power projects = Russia agreed to rehabilitation of these barrages.
TAPI =Russia also agreed to finance the Turkmenistan Project.
Russia agree to boast defense cooperation with Pakistan
Putin coming to Pakistan
Army chief to visit Russia for first time.


Looks like RUSSIA Wants to replace China ! China is best friend :pakistan::china:
We want good relations with russia and this seems to be going he right way

:pakistan:


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...know-next-week-if-they-out.html#ixzz25kIMXDN6
 
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TAPI pipeline is basically a dead project by the way.....it's as good as dead, its not gonna happen IMHO




No, no, drunkard slavic skinhead state with bears roaming the city streets and people wearing those funny furry hats.

such a nice hats :lol:

instead of "Roaming" you should have said driving around drunk in a Lada Niva 4x4
 
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