Pakistan rubbishes Indian claims of Surgical Strike inside Pakistan.

[abrar khan]

dear
Truly speaking I did send some words attached to this link which some how erased while sending my error.
I think you are a descent Indian member unlike many on PDF, and assumed that you will understand the self explanatory article quoted from theguardian that why I have gone to that extend to consider your PM Modi from the race of monkey, though most of the people all over the world call him ... butcher of Gujarat, and a sick man.. for that ultimate reasons he was banned to US and UK before he took the oath as PM. Kindly read below article as human. I have just pasted one para if you don't have time to read this long article from an Indian author, which may be quite uneasy for a common Indian.
An indian article as Indian only accept made in India source.
You may give another negative rating to me for calling you pm less than a human.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...endra-modi-massacre-next-prime-minister-india
Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies.
The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them. In 2007, the investigative magazine Tehelka recorded boasts from some of the ringleaders. One, Babu Bajrangi, boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman

How is this linked to members of PDF misbehaving? Is this a justification?

 

[noksss]

From the info i was able to gather is that it was more a case of the so called surgical strike being pre-empted , the Indians were challenged as they moved towards the border, which prompted the Indians to open fire martyring our two Jawans, the PA replied in kind and killed 6 to 8 Indian soldiers as they ran away. Fearing Pakistani fire, the Indians haven't yet recovered their dead bodies. Since the Indian strike force was countered and forced to retreat, they decided to cook up some stories. to cover their failure.

I would like to make a few points.

1- Pakistani Army maintains a heavy presence along the LOC, it is impossible that such a heavy force could have engaged militants inside Pakistani territory for more than 4 hours and made it back on foot without losing a single soldier.

2- There are no "terror camps" within 2km of the LOC. Only a fool would place such camps right at the border. The camps are deep inside Punjab. The so called launch pads don't have that many militants and in any case, the militants trained in Pakistan are well trained and fight fanatically.

3- The Indians provided no proof of any 'surgical strike'. No photos, no images of destroyed camps etc.

4- Many Indians make a claim that 2 Pakistani soldiers died is a proof of the surgical strikes. No, it is not. In the past, both sides have killed each other's soldiers in artillery shelling, mortar shelling, sniping and cross border raids/ambushes.

5- What my source and sources of several Pakistani media persons confirm is that the Indians did try to cross the LOC or they did try to attack Pakistan army posts (The post in Leepa sector was directly attacked) but all of their raiding parties were repulsed in each sector. They suffered heavy casualties and at least 8 of their men were killed.

Now what I think of those attacks is that these raids were conducted to exact revenge of the Uri attacks by killing Pakistani soldiers in their posts and escalating the situation along the LOC to raise the morale of Indian Army, government and public in a short localized conflict. The attacks were not 'surgical strikes' from what I know. The Indians attacked a post manned by elements of 8 NLI directly in Leepa sector, the case may be the same in other areas.

6- Now why the Indian DGMO claimed to have conducted surgical strikes. The answer is very simple, for face saving.

@DESERT FIGHTER @Oscar @hellfire @notorious_eagle @WAJsal @graphican

Dude you just admitted in point 2 that there are terror camps inside your territory and you guys train terrorist

 

[sbh02]

you already have 5 corps from karachi and 2 strike core from multan there and now XXXI corps from bhawalpur....its not an exercise anymore.....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-adjoining-Jaisalmer/articleshow/54555612.cms

I asked you for a non-Indian source.

We know your jingoistic/hysterical media has a habit of lying, just like when they reported that the Russians had cancelled their military exercises with Pakistan on India's request.

 

[Windjammer]

Sure



Wow, when did that happen.

Actually it happened yesterday, which bit did you deliberately missed.

 

[Indian Jatt]

I asked you for a non-Indian source.

We know your jingoistic/hysterical media has a habit of lying, just like when they reported that the Russians had cancelled their military exercises with Pakistan on India's request.

you dont know where your 5 corps and 2 strike core are??

 

[New Resolve]

you dont know where your 5 corps and 2 strike core are??

They are glued to the TV enjoying the Sir G Kul fiasco.

 

[Indian Jatt]

They are glued to the TV enjoying the Sir G Kul fiasco.

hmm then its good....

 

[Jawad iqbal]

 

[gslv mk3]

Actually it happened yesterday, which bit did you deliberately missed.

Nothing happened. One unrelated soldier from 37 RR was captured.

No casualties have been reported from the Indian side, either in this operation or the cross border shelling of Indian posts.

 

[Areesh]

So any proof shared by India about this imaginary surgical strike?? Anything???

 

[abrar khan]

="sachin10, post: 8749542, member: 134247"]We believe our Army and you believe yours.. It depends on which of the 2 Armies have more credibility.. And credibility cant be decided as the party which looses will call the deciding athourity ad biased...

Who will decide the credibility? At least you and me cannot.

We believe our Army and you believe yours.. It depends on which of the 2 Armies have more credibility.. And credibility cant be decided as the party which looses will call the deciding athourity ad biased...

 

[sbh02]

So any proof shared by India about this imaginary surgical strike?? Anything???

The funny thing is, even the statement from the Indian DGMO talked about action along the LOC, not across the LOC.

The Indian media made that interpolation, and started filling in the masala for their Bollywood premiere.

 

[Areesh]

The funny thing is, even the statement from the Indian DGMO talked about action along the LOC, not across the LOC.

The Indian media made that interpolation, and started filling in the masala for their Bollywood premiere.

Indian DGMO deliberately kept ambiguity in his presser. To keep his foolish nation celebrating on something that never happened.

 

[Windjammer]

Nothing happened. One unrelated soldier from 37 RR was captured.

No casualties have been reported from the Indian side, either in this operation or the cross border shelling of Indian posts.

And how do you think he got captured , albeit your army confirmed it but so far they have come up with lame excuses like he inadvertently crossed over or he is a deserter, as for no casualties, what has India got to show for it's tall claims.
Anyways watch the videos then ndecide.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1505779626104484

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=312687125756809

 

[gslv mk3]

And how do you think he got captured , albeit your army confirmed it but so far they have come up with lame excuses like he inadvertently crossed over or he is a deserter, as for no casualties, what h

Here comes another 'video proof'. The fact is that Pakistani claim of killing whatever number of Indian soldiers is bull-shit & this has been confirmed by the Indian Army.