Pakistan receives LD-10 Anti-radiation missiles

[Falcon26]

It is a great news. In laymen's terms, it is counter measure for anti-missile systems likes S-300 and 400. That basically means that enemy cannot use missile defence shields with impunity and nuclear strike will remain a viable strategic option for the commanders.

India has been investing billions in acquiring electronic countermeasures and jamming tech from Israel & the west since 2009. How do you factor the effectiveness of these anti radiation missiles in light of these Indian acquisition?

 

[war&peace]

India has been investing billions in acquiring electronic countermeasures and jamming tech from Israel & the west since 2009. How do you factor the effectiveness of these anti radiation missiles in light of these Indian acquisition?

That lays waste. India makes plans and Pakistan counters and they end up wasting billions of dollars. It is the fate for all of their designs...india spent billions of dollar on building quick response force under the cold start doctrine and Pakistan responded with a TNW NASR and those billions of dollars now lay waste and India can't strike Pakistan without the war escalating into full fledge nuke exchange and India couldn't believe and even Uncle Sam couldn't help India other than spewing some hot puffs from his rear end and settling down on reclining chair.

 

[Signalian]

India has been investing billions in acquiring electronic countermeasures and jamming tech from Israel & the west since 2009. How do you factor the effectiveness of these anti radiation missiles in light of these Indian acquisition?

Sir, if you know a bit about EW and ECM systems, you would know that a jamming signal or electronic countermeasure signal increases attraction of an AR-missile towards it. Do Read about "Home on jam" on google.

A good way to jam a AR-Missile is to switch off the radar which ARM has targeted .and if its a mobile radar, change location.

It is a great news. In laymen's terms, it is counter measure for anti-missile systems likes S-300 and 400. That basically means that enemy cannot use missile defence shields with impunity and nuclear strike will remain a viable strategic option for the commanders.

ARM can destroy Radar and guidance system of enemy S-400, not the S- 400 missile system and tubes. If the enemy has integrated battle field communications with net centric warfare system then a redundant radar or guidance system can be in place and used for S-400.

Secondly, its already very difficult to get in range of S-400 through air and destroy its radar or S-400 missile system itself.

 

[Mrc]

Sir, if you know a bit about EW and ECM systems, you would know that a jamming signal or electronic countermeasure signal increases attraction of an AR-missile towards it. Do Read about "Home on jam" on google.

A good way to jam a AR-Missile is to switch off the radar which ARM has targeted .and if its a mobile radar, change location.

This brings me to question in my mind... does a mobile radar in real life wiuld be able to detect an ARM launch and change position in time?? Can ARM launch be detected in time and with accuracy to turn off radar??

 

[Signalian]

This brings me to question in my mind... does a mobile radar in real life wiuld be able to detect an ARM launch and change position in time?? Can ARM launch be detected in time and with accuracy to turn off radar??

Most ECM aircraft use jamming techniques and fire ARM's.

If the Mobile radar encounters jamming in operations and unwanted signals/frequency from surroundings causing distortion in its operation , the radar commander should know that jamming is in effect and ARM could be on the way.

 

[Mrc]

Thanks

 

[Signalian]

Thanks

just to add, modern radar system know what kind of enemy aircraft is coming and what weapons its carrying so yes an ARM launch can be detected.

This is another reason why stealth aircraft carry weapons in internal bays.

 

[Mrc]

just to add, modern radar system know what kind of enemy aircraft is coming and what weapons its carrying so yes an ARM launch can be detected.

This is another reason why stealth aircraft carry weapons in internal bays.

That actually i guess will give LD 10 an advantage ...since it nearly identicle to SD 10...and every aircraft will be carrying SD 10 any way....so...

 

[Signalian]

PAF is adding ARM's in inventory to target the following list

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-radar-systems.52874/

plus add Spyder SAM Radar on target list as well as other indian modern ground radar acquistions.

 

[Falcon26]

That lays waste. India makes plans and Pakistan counters and they end up wasting billions of dollars. It is the fate for all of their designs...india spent billions of dollar on building quick response force under the cold start doctrine and Pakistan responded with a TNW NASR and those billions of dollars now lay waste and India can't strike Pakistan without the war escalating into full fledge nuke exchange and India couldn't believe and even Uncle Sam couldn't help India other than spewing some hot puffs from his rear end and settling down on reclining chair.

Thanks for your reply. I will disagree that these Anti-Radiation missiles will lay to waste billions India spent on ecm & other jamming technologies. These ARMs missiles might take out couple of these air defense systems but to believe that they will bust the deeply integrated and numerically numerous indian systems is simply outlandish. If you make a list of equipment India has signed to receive since 2009, you will understand that almost all these weapons are optimized to inflict maximum damage within 72-hours of a conflict and attain air superiority over Pakistani skies. India's overwhelming numerical advantage coupled with weapons that are at least a generation above what Pakistan has will most likely ensure that these ARMs won't amount to much in a time of conflict between the two countries.

Operationalization of NISR during periods of war will open a Pandora's box that's best left lid.

 

[war&peace]

Thanks for your reply. I will disagree that these Anti-Radiation missiles will lay to waste billions India spent on ecm & other jamming technologies. These ARMs missiles might take out couple of these air defense systems but to believe that they will bust the deeply integrated and numerically numerous indian systems is simply outlandish. If you make a list of equipment India has signed to receive since 2009, you will understand that almost all these weapons are optimized to inflict maximum damage within 72-hours of a conflict and attain air superiority over Pakistani skies. India's overwhelming numerical advantage coupled with weapons that are at least a generation above what Pakistan has will most likely ensure that these ARMs won't amount to much in a time of conflict between the two countries.

Operationalization of NISR during periods of war will open a Pandora's box that's best left lid.

Thanks for your reply. The name of the missile is NASR and not NISR ( a typical Indian trait) and it has laid their designs to the waste and that's a bitter pill for you to swallow and that has left their planners butt-hurt.

 

[Falcon26]

No thanks for your reply. The name of the missile is NASR and not NISR ( a typical Indian trait) and it has laid your designs to the waste and that's a bitter pill for you to swallow and that has left your country butthurt. Just try burnol at national scale.

I am not an Indian at all but thanks for your feedback.

 

[Ali Sinan]

What is the difference between MAR-1, LD-10 & CM-102?

Range payload and most importantly price.

Sir, if you know a bit about EW and ECM systems, you would know that a jamming signal or electronic countermeasure signal increases attraction of an AR-missile towards it. Do Read about "Home on jam" on google.

A good way to jam a AR-Missile is to switch off the radar which ARM has targeted .and if its a mobile radar, change location.



ARM can destroy Radar and guidance system of enemy S-400, not the S- 400 missile system and tubes. If the enemy has integrated battle field communications with net centric warfare system then a redundant radar or guidance system can be in place and used for S-400.

Secondly, its already very difficult to get in range of S-400 through air and destroy its radar or S-400 missile system itself.

For S-400 we have Ra'ad but my dear India still not finalize the deal when they you will come to know what counter we have planned.

 

[Gryphon]

Yep...HQ9 has an anti-radiation variant...Pakistan probably has the variant in its arsenal.

No HQ-9 system is in service (yet).

 

[Blue Marlin]

That lays waste. India makes plans and Pakistan counters and they end up wasting billions of dollars. It is the fate for all of their designs...india spent billions of dollar on building quick response force under the cold start doctrine and Pakistan responded with a TNW NASR and those billions of dollars now lay waste and India can't strike Pakistan without the war escalating into full fledge nuke exchange and India couldn't believe and even Uncle Sam couldn't help India other than spewing some hot puffs from his rear end and settling down on reclining chair.

arm's is not a simple solution to lr-sams it just makes them harder to get at it successfully