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Bahrain or Bust?

Pakistan should think twice before meddling in the Middle East.
By Miranda Husain | From the April 11‚ 2011‚ issue

Less than three weeks after Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) forces, led by Saudi Arabia, entered Bahrain to aid the anti-democracy crackdown there, dignitaries from both oil-rich kingdoms did their separate rounds in Pakistan. The royal houses of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are nervous, and they need Pakistan’s mercenaries, and—if necessary—military muscle to shore them up.

This is a remarkable turn of events for Asif Ali Zardari, who had been trying since he was elected president in 2008 to secure Saudi oil on sweetheart terms. He had been unsuccessful in his efforts because the Sunni Saudis view his leadership with some degree of skepticism. It also doesn’t help that Zardari, a Shia, is big on improving relations with Shia Tehran. Riyadh now appears inclined to export oil on terms that better suit cash-strapped Islamabad. Manama, too, wants to play ball. It wants increased defense cooperation and has pledged to prioritize Pakistan’s hopes for a free-trade agreement with the GCC in return. But Zardari and his Army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, should fight the urge to get mired in the Middle East.

Pakistan already has a presence in Bahrain: a battalion of the Azad Kashmir Regiment was deployed there over a year ago to train local troops, and retired officers from our Navy and Army are part of their security forces. Media estimates put the number of Pakistanis serving in Bahrain’s security establishment at about 10,000. Their removal has been a key demand of protesters in the kingdom. Last month in Islamabad, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani reportedly assured Bahrain’s foreign minister, Sheikh Khaled bin Ahmed al-Khalifa, that Pakistan would offer more retired manpower to help quell the uprising against Bahrain’s Sunni rulers by its Shia majority. Gilani’s spokesman was unable to confirm the pledge.

Islamabad’s support to the tottering regime in Manama is not ideal. “It’s like our version of Blackwater,” says Talat Masood, a former Pakistan Army general, referring to Bahrain’s recruitment drive in Pakistan. “We’re doing [in Bahrain] exactly what we have been opposing here,” he says. Pakistan, he maintains, has no business in trying to suppress a democratic, people’s movement in another country. Short-term economic gains cannot be the only prism through which Pakistan views its national interests, he says.

Pakistan has a long history of military involvement and training in the Arab world. Its pilots flew warplanes in the 1967 Arab-Israeli conflict, and volunteered for the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Involvement in Bahrain’s current strife would not be the first time that Pakistan has used its military might to thwart an Arab uprising against an Arab regime. In 1970, future military dictator Gen. Zia-ul-Haq, then head of the Pakistani military training mission in Jordan, led his soldiers to intervene on the side of Amman to quash a Palestinian challenge to its rule.

Some Bahraini opposition groups have called on the U.S. to intervene to get the GCC troops out of their country, fearing it could become a battleground in a Saudi-Iranian battle for regional supremacy. They stress that they share no real affinity with the theocratic regime in Shia-majority Iran, while noting that a number of Bahraini Sunni Muslims have also come out in the streets to call for greater reforms. Pakistani involvement, therefore, could result in it being embroiled in a proxy war, with serious implications for its own security interests.

The issue of Iran is important, but there’s a deeper issue, according to author Noam Chomsky. “By historical and geographical accident, the main concentration of global energy resources is in the northern Gulf region, which is predominantly Shia,” he told Newsweek Pakistan. Bahrain, he points out, neighbors eastern Saudi Arabia, where most of the latter’s oil is. “Western planners have long been concerned that a tacit Shia alliance might take shape with enormous control over the world’s energy resources, and perhaps not be reliably obedient to the U.S.”

Bahrain, which like Pakistan was designated a major non-NATO ally by the George W. Bush presidency, is home to the Fifth Fleet. It is the primary U.S. base in the region and allows Washington to ensure the free flow of oil through the Gulf, while keeping checks on Iran. Chomsky believes that Pakistani presence in Bahrain can be seen as part of a U.S.-backed alliance to safeguard Western access to the region’s oil.

“The U.S. has counted on Pakistan to help control the Arab world and safeguard Arab rulers from their own populations,” says Chomsky. “Pakistan was one of the ‘cops on the beat’ that the Nixon administration had in mind when outlining their doctrine for controlling the Arab world,” he says. Pakistan has such “severe internal problems” that it may not be able to play this role even if asked to. But the real reason that Pakistan should avoid this role is so that it can stand on the right side of history, alongside those who are fighting for democracy.

To comment on this article, email letters@newsweek.pk

its all about Bahrain, no real mention about KSA!



Though Miranda writes a good post, his comparison of PAF pilots in Arab-Israeli wars with now Pakistan sending troops is kinda stupid.

PAF pilots didn't fight their own muslim brothers....but IDAF....who are still consider enemy by Pakistan.


Meanwhile, our troops to help tyrant rulers....is just totally wrong.


Maybe Zardari wants to shore up his support just like Nawaz Sharif in front of royal family.
 
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Omar -- who is the enemy?? Aren't the people Muslims?? Isn't Bahrain and Iran also Muslim?? -- You started so strong, why surrender ---- Freedom is good for arabs and Muslims, right? after all it's good for us, or would support some arbi oppressing us??

We have better options

Yes we all are Muslims but as for Saudi Arabia bloodshed and revolution would not be good especially around our holy cities. We dont want anything like the Seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979 to happen again. It would upset all Muslims in the world.

No one except for some Iranian clerics are complaining about the status quo in Saudi Arabia.
 
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Is there any morality to politics inside Pakistan??


I think I know what your answer will be -- and I regret it - You are much mistaken, there is morality in everything, we choose to deny this reality at our own expense.

The Change cannot be stopped - consider, even after bribes by the Princes, the degree of dissonance is such that society has become increasingly polarized - in the end, some Princes will submit, others will escape to their investments in the West --- Why should Pakistan risk it's future over something that can be solved by simply allowing people to be free - we want freedom for ourselves, how can we deny it to others and call ourselves muslims or whatever

One must be pragmatic and a realist.

Is there any morality in any country?

Even in China, which lectures the world, they are against Gaddafi and the first one to take Oil from the rebels!!

So, let us not condemn Pakistan and wonder if there is morality.

Yes, the average Pakistanis can stand up. Indians have done so in the Movement against Corruption beyond political divides and the Govt has given way.

Pakistanis are no less than Indians, if they decide to shake up the establishment.

Till such a shake up comes, one has to accept the status quo that prevails.

But, morality missing is a world wide phenomenon and Pakistan cannot be blamed.

Since this news is a hoax, can this thread be closed please?

Any proof?

Please think about what you say before you say it. We moved our troops to a location where the terrorists are causing problems for us. If the same is not happening for you, why are you keeping troops there?

Terrorists not operating in India?

Yes Saudi dollars , Saudi Oil ....any problems ...??
they helped us during floods, earthquacks so why cant we send troops if they ask for them ...

What quaks?

The world helped and it was not only the Saudis.

And anyway, does it mean that the Saudis have bought over Pakistanis?

The fundamentalists also did great work, as per reports much better and more than your govt or the Saudis. So why not have them as your govt?

Total Balderdash!
 
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Pakistan is Muslim.

But then, they are not Wahabis!

The day they embrace Wahabism, then Saudis can take over.

Pakistan is an independent sovereign state.

it will accept aid, but that does not mean that they will place their sartaz at the Saudi feet!

At least that is what I think so.
 
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for Saudi Arabia bloodshed and revolution would not be good especially around our holy cities. We dont want anything like the Seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979 to happen again.

And so we will kill Muslim citizens of another country because some Prince commands us?? Pleeez, yara.

Lets give the arbis a chance to grow up -- these are internal problems - -now if there was a external threat, yes, sure but Pakistanis firing on the citizens of another country we are not at war with, Pakistanis as a mercenary nation, we will be essentially saying, "how much" as a nation and we can do better- we just need to be calm and not allow ourselves to be misled -- The Arbis think they need hired killers but what they need are friends who can tell them we love you and will not allow yourselves to destroy yourselves - freedom is not a gift, it's a right and it's time for the Princes to grow up - you know abdullah has just returned from the US and for gifts, he spent more than 30 BILLION dollars - thin about that even if he has a gift for everyone of his 6t0,000 family members - and you would have Pakistanis kill ordinary citizens to protect such depraved behaviour??
 
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Pakistan is prepared to move two army divisions into Saudi Arabia to protect the kingdom in the event of any outbreak of trouble, such as what has happened in Bahrain, Yemen, Egypt, Libya and other Middle East and North African nations, informed sources say in a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

It also is ready to help recruit ex-Pakistani military personnel for Bahrain's national guard, the sources report.

The sources said the decision was reached reluctantly, but it puts Sunni Islam-majority Pakistan alongside other Sunni Muslim partners, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, in a move that apparently is intended to assure that Sunni Islam remains dominant in the Arab world.

The perception is that the influence of Shiite Islam-dominated Iran is on the rise.

Ironically, Pakistan and Iran have had a history of close political, economic and military relations. Their relationship was so close that Pakistan's A.Q. Khan, known as the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, provided nuclear assistance to Iran.

Given Iran's nuclear ambitions, sources say the alignment of nuclear-armed Pakistan with a broad Sunni Muslim bloc of countries by offering the two army divisions to Saudi Arabia is designed to blunt the "emerging Shiite crescent in the Middle East."

As a further show of support to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has organized and recruited some 1,000 ex-army personnel for service in the national guard of Bahrain.

Bahraini King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa recently requested troops from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates to put down increasingly violent demonstrations by the Shiites, who make up some 70 percent of the population. Saudi Arabia and the UAE each recently sent some 1,000 troops and logistical support to Bahrain.

Khalifa and Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz accuse Iran of fomenting the demonstrations with the idea of taking over the island country between Iran and Saudi Arabia in the Persian Gulf.

"The recent political upheaval in the Arab world from North Africa and now engulfing the Gulf region monarchial kingdoms has shaken the very fundamentals of the underpinnings of United States security framework in the Gulf region," according to Subhash Kapila of the South Asia Analysis Group.

"The United States security architecture in the Gulf region rested on the continuance of existing autocratic U.S.-friendly monarchies presiding over the oil riches of this region," he said.

"Herein emerges Pakistan army's strategic indispensability and strategic utility to both the United States and Saudi Arabia in securing the status-quo in the Gulf region for all of them," he added.
Pakistan poised to dispatch army to Saudi Arabia

What??? Instead of sending the PA to put a bullet in the thick heads of these cunning evil tyrants the Saudi Royal Family, PA acts like a mercenary army to protect these evil minions of the US?

Well it could be a blessing in disguise actually... As the regime in Pakistan changes these same soldiers can be used to take out the regime in Arabia... inshaAllah
 
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Bad international relations will meet Pakistan in the end. Pakistan will loose Iran and it's oil.
Pakistan Oil reserves in Baluchistan are deeper than the ones in Iran and they are on the same lines, so if Pakistani leaders have the courage we can make Iran loose it oil

but we on the other hand are buying gas from Iran. What an irony!!! :hitwall:
 
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Yes we all are Muslims but as for Saudi Arabia bloodshed and revolution would not be good especially around our holy cities. We dont want anything like the Seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979 to happen again. It would upset all Muslims in the world.

No one except for some Iranian clerics are complaining about the status quo in Saudi Arabia.

That is a very ill informed opinion about whats happening inside Saudi Arabia...
 
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First we should sort out our internal problems then we can help others.Saudia Arabia is no doubt is a close friend but it will be interference in their internal matters.
We did same in 1980s in case of Afghanistan and today we are cutting that crop.
 
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Saudi Arabia is also a Muslim country with 99% of its population being Muslims, so how am I not promoting Muslim brotherhood by promotng the Saudi Muslims. Besides, the status quo in Saudi Arabia works for most Muslims in the world not just for Pakistanis.

A bloodshed in Saudi Arabia would not be a good thing for Muslims in this world. Saudi Arabia has 2 of our holiest cites. Each day all Muslims of this world are supposed to pray facing Mecca.

Brothers... have you gone insane... do you realize what Saudi Arabia stands for even?
 
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We are tallking about Saudi Arabia not Bahrain you ignorant bharti troll.

Yea right!! so you are ready to interfere in internal matters of Saudi on Saudi monarchy's request but will not help Bahrain on Bahrain's govts request..why such injustice to the poor Bahranian autocrats?

And what was that about that we are not anti shia?
 
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Pakistan is Muslim.

But then, they are not Wahabis!

The day they embrace Wahabism, then Saudis can take over.

Pakistan is an independent sovereign state.

it will accept aid, but that does not mean that they will place their sartaz at the Saudi feet!

At least that is what I think so.

Dude who is the Gods green earth do you think you are to tell us Pakistanis what we should and shouldnt do. In a very polite way you should mind your own damn business.
 
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It is very necessary we limit Iranian influence in the region.
They use shia population of other countries for their proxies.Lebanon,Bahrain,Pakistan,Saudia,iraq.
we should not allow that iranian took the control of hijaz through their proxies
 
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