Pakistan pitches for mutual demilitarisation of Siachen after Lance Naik Koppad's death

[$@rJen]

Who started the war?

Why did India send in army in Siachin?

Did Pakistan Invade?

It is easy to comment sitting in luxury homes. Care to visit Siachin for a day or too. I bet you would even be willing to settle Kashmir if posted in Siachin.

you send your forces to occupy them... India just Preempted...

 

[surya kiran]

Not so fast honey. What i meant was if both countries can sign and agreement and take international help in case of guarantor i don't see a problem in that. And international pressure is the thing no matter you are supa pawa or not. It happened in Kargil, in 1971 and in 1965 as well.

Why? You signed the Simla agreement in 1972? You invaded in 1999. Your PM went running to the US post that. You came under international pressure, because of the activities of a rogue general?

So, lets not twist facts.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Who started the war?

Why did India send in army in Siachin?

Did Pakistan Invade?

It is easy to comment sitting in luxury homes. Care to visit Siachin for a day or too. I bet you would even be willing to settle Kashmir if posted in Siachin.

Pakistan herself wanted to occupy the Saltoro Range because of its strategic importance but was preempted by India in 1987, as admitted by Musharraf in his autobiography 'In the Line of Fire'. Jahan Dad Khan, commanding Pakistan's 10 Corps in 1983-84, writes in his book 'Pakistan Leadership Challenges' that an SSG Company was sent to Bilafond La in summer of 1983 but had to fall back as they were not equipped for winter.

In 1984, when India pre-empted the Pakistani Army planned move, Dad Khan writes, "This was a great setback for Pakistan. We had obviously failed to appreciate the timing of the Indian move and our intelligence agencies had failed to detect the brigade size force in the area in April 1984."


Oh... the things that the don't let you read in Pakistan are amazingly relishing.

And just in case people have not seen this:
No question of withdrawing troops from Siachen as proposed by Pakistan, says Army | The Indian Express


Now can we close this thread.

 

[Areesh]

Pakistan herself wanted to occupy the Saltoro Range because of its strategic importance but was preempted by India in 1987, as admitted by Musharraf in his autobiography 'In the Line of Fire'. Jahan Dad Khan, commanding Pakistan's 10 Corps in 1983-84, writes in his book 'Pakistan Leadership Challenges' that an SSG Company was sent to Bilafond La in summer of 1983 but had to fall back as they were not equipped for winter.

And when SSG company reached Bilafondla in 1983 it found presence Ladakh Scouts in that area. So India was already transgrressing that area even before SSG reached Bilafondla.

Conclusion: India started Siachen conflict.

Now please close the thread. Bharatis are proud of their madness. So no need fopr pitching such solutions.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

And when SSG company reached Bilafondla in 1983 it found presence Ladakh Scouts in that area. So India was already transgrressing that area even before SSG reached Bilafondla.

Conclusion: India started Siachen conflict.

Ya... just like India started all wars with Pakistan... and Pakistan won all wars :

 

[Areesh]

Ya... just like India started all wars with Pakistan... and Pakistan won all wars :

Obviously you would go off topic. Would discuss 1965, 1971, 1948 etc etc. I understand. But still you are responsible for Siachen. We all know that.

 

[prabakar]

We ll not come down from Siachen...We don't want another war with Pakistan....

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Obviously you would go off topic. Would discuss 1965, 1971, 1948 etc etc. I understand. But still you are responsible for Siachen. We all know that.

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Alright.... on topic: No question of withdrawing troops from Siachen as proposed by Pakistan, says Army | The Indian Express
Now go and sleep....

Can we close the thread.

 

[Areesh]

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Alright.... on topic: No question of withdrawing troops from Siachen as proposed by Pakistan, says Army | The Indian Express
Now go and sleep....

Can we close the thread.

I already said that on the first page of this thread. Bharatis are high on supa puwa charas. No need to give these guys any sane solution to this conflict. Just go on with the status quo.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

I already said that on the first page of this thread. Bharatis are high on supa puwa charas. No need to give these guys any sane solution to this conflict. Just go on with the status quo.

No one took the advice.. coming from people who literally burnt their own house to throw fire at neighbor's house...

 

[Roybot]

Pakistan can just accept India's position, and withdraw. Why do they want us to withdraw.

 

[Areesh]

No one took the advice.. coming from people who literally burnt their own house to throw fire at neighbor's house...

Says a bharati. Who have faced militancy in all of its forms and shapes.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Says a bharati. Who have faced militancy in all of its forms and shapes.

And that has trained us so well ... that Even Global Military comes to us for COIN trainings: US Army keen to learn from India's counter-insurgency operations - timesofindia-economictimes

 

[[Bregs]]

Siachen height provides military depth India can’t afford to lose - Times of India

 

[ejaz007]

Pakistan herself wanted to occupy the Saltoro Range because of its strategic importance but was preempted by India in 1987, as admitted by Musharraf in his autobiography 'In the Line of Fire'. Jahan Dad Khan, commanding Pakistan's 10 Corps in 1983-84, writes in his book 'Pakistan Leadership Challenges' that an SSG Company was sent to Bilafond La in summer of 1983 but had to fall back as they were not equipped for winter.

In 1984, when India pre-empted the Pakistani Army planned move, Dad Khan writes, "This was a great setback for Pakistan. We had obviously failed to appreciate the timing of the Indian move and our intelligence agencies had failed to detect the brigade size force in the area in April 1984."


Oh... the things that the don't let you read in Pakistan are amazingly relishing.

And just in case people have not seen this:
No question of withdrawing troops from Siachen as proposed by Pakistan, says Army | The Indian Express


Now can we close this thread.

India started planning for Siachin way earlier then 1983 perhaps in 1979. Training was provided to the army in Siberia by the Soviets. The operations started in 1983. So preempting Pakistan's move is not correct. India had her intentions for which they planned and trained since 1979.