Pakistan Orders 40 JF-17 Fighter Aircraft, Contract signed with Foreign Customer

[My-Analogous]

Just to clarify

We have 60 jets and are now ordering 40 more to make a total of 100 over next two years or so

Is that right

No mate its mean we are ow export order of 60 planes.

 

[The Eagle]

No mate its mean we are ow export order of 60 planes.

Dude... little confused here.... 40 is the order for export so what's the count in our own inventory for us I mean? Thnx

 

[My-Analogous]

Dude... little confused here.... 40 is the order for export so what's the count in our own inventory for us I mean? Thnx

Mate we currently have 70+ JF17 in our inventory and 20 we sold two months back to an unknown customer and now we have 40 more export order.

 

[I S I]

So India will ofer thier teja to Myanmar also? @I S I

They offered it to Srilanka recently. Lol

Mate we currently have 70+ JF17 in our inventory and 20 we sold two months back to an unknown customer and now we have 40 more export order.

Woah dude. Where you got the news about delivered JF17s?

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Pakistan sold JF-17 to _____________ and ____________.

(Blanks to be filled later!)

یہ نامعلوم مما لک کون ہیں؟

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Mate we currently have 70+ JF17 in our inventory and 20 we sold two months back to an unknown customer and now we have 40 more export order.

These are not export orders but orders of 40 block 2 for PAF... 10 blk 2 have been made so far so this would mark an end of block 2 when these are delivered by 2017.

The export orders are still not known... There are some unconfirmed reports as you have stated but how accurate are they can only be seen once the country ordering discloses. There are a few countries that have been interested in purchasing these aircraft and some news channels even aired news regarding Sri Lanka opening letter of credit in this regards.

 

[My-Analogous]

These are not export orders but orders of 40 block 2 for PAF... 10 blk 2 have been made so far so this would mark an end of block 2 when these are delivered by 2017.

The export orders are still not known... There are some unconfirmed reports as you have stated but how accurate are they can only be seen once the country ordering discloses. There are a few countries that have been interested in purchasing these aircraft and some news channels even aired news regarding Sri Lanka opening letter of credit in this regards.

Read the source again

 

[LonE_WolF]

Read the source again

Hi,
the source says that 40 have been ordered by PAF while 60 are in PAF service. this is not additional order i think but the existing order of 50 block 2's. 10 delivered and 40 to be delivered.

 

[My-Analogous]

They offered it to Srilanka recently. Lol


Woah dude. Where you got the news about delivered JF17s?

This picture was click on July 2015. So based on that we can say 20 block 2 + and 50 we have block 1
Chengdu JF-17/FC-1 Multirole Fighter | Page 6 | World Defence

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

exercising financial leverage is quite normal at the nation state level when you're talking about strategic assets like fighters, missiles etc

You really mean to suggest that India would have cancelled the Rafale deal and the French MICA missiles for its French Mirage aircraft because of a French avionics sale to Pakistan?

That would imply that the years of analysis of various aircraft participating in the MMRCA tender and missile systems was a waste of time, because India would have walked away from the Rafale and MICA missiles had France agreed to sell avionics to Pakistan.

 

[Tameem]

Pakistan sold JF-17 to __Gog_ and __Magog___.

 

[UniverseWatcher]

11/9, AVIC started working on the first 2-seat JF-17/FC-1.

Link to AVIC News in Chinese:

把握机遇 攻克难关 力保研制节点
成飞开展“枭龙”新型双座战斗教练机试制

WASHINGTON (Correspondent Zhang Hongzhang He) November 9, to fly in the aircraft industry held a "'Fierce Dragon' / FC-1 two-seat combat trainer trial work mobilization," marking the "Fierce Dragon" two-seat combat trainer The trial work began.
Head of CAC 13 professional factory and nine Technologies business sector took the floor expressed through team efforts to achieve the target node trial.
"Fierce Dragon" two-seat combat trainer is evolved on the basis of a single plane in the assault, while the trainer function, both the single-seat combat capability equivalent, usually mainly used for pilot conversion, flight training and tactical training, wartime can be used to perform combat missions.
CAC chairman and party secretary Cheng Fubo said: "'Fierce Dragon" aircraft are flying into the only trade machine, is to fly in the international arms market of cards we have to seize the opportunity, recognize the situation and build confidence;. To carry forward the spirit of hard work, research and the creation of a new record; to play a leading role in technology to achieve technological innovation; to be well-organized, rational allocation, concentrate superior forces to fight a battle. "

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

You really mean to suggest that India would have cancelled the Rafale deal and the French MICA missiles for its French Mirage aircraft because of a French avionics sale to Pakistan?

That would imply that the years of analysis of various aircraft participating in the MMRCA tender and missile systems was a waste of time, because India would have walked away from the Rafale and MICA missiles had France agreed to sell avionics to Pakistan.

no, but that very expensive MICA suite did give India a bit of financial leverage, helped France and India come to a mutual understanding of sorts.. no ego here, it's just how high level hustling works

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

no, but that very expensive MICA suite did give India a bit of financial leverage, helped France and India come to a mutual understanding of sorts.. no ego here, it's just how high level hustling works

Hustling of the kind being referred to implies a quid pro quo, which in this case could only be that a French refusal to sell to Pakistan would be rewarded by contracts for the Rafale and MICA, which in turn suggests that Indian military acquisition policies are arbitrary and focused on denying Pakistan equipment rather than purchasing the equipment most suited to India's needs.

Would India have rejected the Rafale had France sold Pakistan an avionics suite for the JF-17? No.

Would India have rejected the MICA for her French Mirage fighter jets had France sold Pakistan an avionics suite for the JF-17? No.

Will India walk out of the PAK-FA and further SU-30MKI purchases despite the massive investments made in local production of the latter etc over Russia selling Pakistan military hardware? No, especially because the Rafale acquisition has made clear where India plans to acquire future aircraft from.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

Hustling of the kind being referred to implies a quid pro quo, which in this case could only be that a French refusal to sell to Pakistan would be rewarded by contracts for the Rafale and MICA, which in turn suggests that Indian military acquisition policies are arbitrary and focused on denying Pakistan equipment rather than purchasing the equipment most suited to India's needs.

Would India have rejected the Rafale had France sold Pakistan an avionics suite for the JF-17? No.

Would India have rejected the MICA for her French Mirage fighter jets had France sold Pakistan an avionics suite for the JF-17? No.

Will India walk out of the PAK-FA and further SU-30MKI purchases despite the massive investments made in local production of the latter etc over Russia selling Pakistan military hardware? No, especially because the Rafale acquisition has made clear where India plans to acquire future aircraft from.

no, no and no.

and that the rafale won the tender for the medium multirole fighter is aided in large part by the IAF's good experience with the mirages over the years, the Russians have the heavies market all tied down for now but the long term goal is still to go full local with 100% ToT, something the Americans don't have a realistic shot at because of their reluctance to part with critical tech + there being much distrust here about possible sanctions etc

to try and leverage vendors is just how this business works, given the financial muscle, Pak would do it no differently.