Featured Pakistan operationalises Bayraktar TB-2 MALE UCAV for PAF

[Basel]

TB2, in conjuction with the Turkish EW systems, has made Kebap out of the Russian AD, armored, artillery etc. in multiple fronts. And, the Chinese drones failed in Libya compared to TB2s....

Unlike Azerbaijan and Libya, any future war between Pakistan and India will be very different as both are going for future technologies while embedding them into their own NCW environment, so only time will tell how good TB-2 perform in that because enemy will also be deploying EW and Air Defense in NCW environment to counter any Arial threat.

 

[Iron Shrappenel]

The news is true. And Jummah Bazar continues. I really want to understand the mindset behind induct so many types of Armed Drones

 

[Pandora]

Here is the story

Ankara Ready To Export Drones, UAVs To New Delhi In A 'New Beginning' For India, Turkey Relations

Turkish company Zyrone Dynamics, which offers unique UAV solutions using advanced technologies, is preparing to ship its ZCQM multirotor mini-drone to India. Before the end of the year, Zyrone will ship the first mini multi-rotor drone and subsequent deliveries will continue in batches until...

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EuroAsian times is a propoganda outlet identified by EU disinfo labs as an extension of ANI official news outlet of India. They post fake stories regarding China Pakistan and Turkey frequently.

 

[TheSolution]

Pakistan is preparing for any foul play

Any idiots who touch the fence or border wiring will get a rude awakening
valuable asset to have to fly in Balochistan and Pakistan/Afghan border area

What kind of Numbers are we envisioning with these birds

We already have a ton of drones, like the WL2, if it was about the border we'd have used them. This procurement must be build up for a different goal.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan is preparing for any foul play

Any idiots who touch the fence or border wiring will get a rude awakening
valuable asset to have to fly in Balochistan and Pakistan/Afghan border area

What kind of Numbers are we envisioning with these birds

If PAF went for 50 Wing Long II. I can assume we would go for at least same number of these.

 

[Scorpiooo]

hmmm...

Seeing that Pakistan is apparently buying many different types of UAVs -- CH-4B, Shahpar-II, PAC MALE UAV, Wing Loong 2 and now potentially even TB2 and Anka (via the joint-production deal with NESCOM) -- is the military trying to build a huge drone fleet as rapidly as possible? It sounds like they have a number in mind, and want to reach that figure in the next 1-2 years. @JamD @kursed @SQ8 @HRK

What's can be possible practical numbers @Bilal Khan (Quwa) by looking as our pockets as well

 

[Black Tornado]

India has the world's largest poverty rate and even has larger poverty rate then the whole world combined don't get fooled by the 3t it is because of the large population and nothing more then that and infact to low for a country with 1.4b population they are technically at the starving point that is the real picture of India.

India needs atleast another 100 years in order to qualify to be labelled a rich country or see some wealth. India is doomed eternally as poor country.. Pakistan is also the same but the only way out is an expansion campaign which will occur at some point for Pakistan. They could start with Yemen and others places but Pakistan will eventually realize it needs to expand for economical reasons which it will do this is how Pakistan will become wealthy whereas India will not find way out of it..

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India still buys 20b$ rafale even if men have no cloth to wear or if die in gutters or slums

What 20 billion dollars is for us, is what 2 billion dollars are for you if we take ratio and proportions into account of our respective GDPs, our GDP is 10 times yours, what value $1 million holds for Pak is what $10 million holds for India. While $20 Billion MMRCA is maybe the biggest defence deal we’ll be doing, most of the aircrafts will have to be manufactured here which will create jobs here and will sustain our aerospace ecosystem while your military frequently buys weapons worth billions of dollars as if its nothing, $1.5 billion worth of T-129 attack helos which is like $15 billion for India or $1 billion of J-10 which is like $10 billion for us. We don’t overspend on our military like Pak, especially when our tax to GDP ratio is significantly higher than yours as %age of GDP.

There’s a reason why Pakistan’s military is 10th largest in the world while economy is 45th largest in the world, and that reason is overspending.

 

[Titanium100]

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What 20 billion dollars is for us, is what 2 billion dollars are for you if we take ratio and proportions into account of our respective GDPs, our GDP is 10 times yours, what value $1 million holds for Pak is what $10 million holds for India. While $20 Billion MMRCA is maybe the biggest defence deal we’ll be doing, most of the aircrafts will have to be manufactured here which will create jobs here and will sustain our aerospace ecosystem while your military frequently buys weapons worth billions of dollars as if its nothing, $1.5 billion worth of T-129 attack helos which is like $15 billion for India or $1 billion of J-10 which is like $10 billion for us. We don’t overspend on our military like Pak, especially when our tax to GDP ratio is significantly higher than yours as %age of GDP.

There’s a reason why Pakistan’s military is 10th largest in the world while economy is 45th largest in the world, and that reason is overspending.

Whatever I said was the truth.. India is piss poor and 3t economy for 1.4b population that is pretty much poverty on the higher end.. Besides India is the poorest country in the world for a reason and also has more poverty then the whole world combined for a reason..

3t for 1.4b that is like trying to fit 300 people into a small 2 seater fiat car instead of into a large bus.. that is poverty in it's absolute height

 

[Black Tornado]

Whatever I said was the truth.. India is piss poor and 3t economy for 1.4b population that is pretty much poverty on the higher end.. Besides India is the poorest country in the world for a reason and also has more poverty then the whole world combined for a reason..

3t for 1.4b that is like trying to fit 300 people into a small 2 seater fiat car instead of into a large bus.. that is poverty in it's absolute height

Yes, my bad. Land of pure is the richest.

 

[TheSolution]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1479717776587726849

 

[RealNapster]

Let's be realistic and not simplify things. The world keeps changing and so does Geo-Politics. It will take a very long time for these Indian Bhooka-Nangas to get to 20-trillion. Currently US and China are 20 Trillion economy. By the time these Indian Bhooka Nangas Langoors reach 20-trillion the other economies, example Pakistan, will also proportionally rise especial taking into account inflation and other factors.

Things will not stay stagnant with SCO Economic Block formation on the cards.

When will India be $20 trillion economy is a question for another day. But today's reality is that India is $3 Trillion economy. That's almost 11 times that of Pakistan (264-270 billion $). India was in multiple of Pakistan is many things, land, population, resources, even economy. But with there was a time Indian economy was 6 times of Pakistan, then a time when it was 7 times, them 9 now 11. Are we waiting for the day when Indian economy is 20 times of Pakistan ? Will you then consider Indian a serious opponent or even then you will have your head bury in the sand like an Ostrich ???

 

[Titanium100]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1479717776587726849

Not that it is that important what is the reason behind this? What are the Americans gaining from by trying to block parts which by the way won't be effective here as TB2 is 100% local but still I have seen them blocking Pakistan in even Helicopter deal can anyone confirm what is the recent behind this? Is there now an open animosty between both countries and has the diplomatic relations failed

 

[RealNapster]

Any idiots who touch the fence or border wiring will get a rude awakening

Oh you meant the Afghan Taliban who did the same last week ? Thrice ???

 

[araz]

hmmm...

Seeing that Pakistan is apparently buying many different types of UAVs -- CH-4B, Shahpar-II, PAC MALE UAV, Wing Loong 2 and now potentially even TB2 and Anka (via the joint-production deal with NESCOM) -- is the military trying to build a huge drone fleet as rapidly as possible? It sounds like they have a number in mind, and want to reach that figure in the next 1-2 years. @JamD @kursed @SQ8 @HRK

More importantly would be how they want to use this fleet and how it will change their utilization of resources in a war theatre. The next one or 2 land based exercises will hopefully shed some light over how PA/PAF plans to use them for situational awareness/CAS and any other use it might have envisaged.

 

[araz]

In all domains...........including down below and high up.............nuff said


Don't be a twat and a racist combined into 1.

Rafi
Bhai now you have said something interesting. So Pak forces wants to use drones in all domains of war and are preparing for it.
Any chance of smaller drones to local platoons for situational awareness? This would be a game changer.
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honestly speaking I am still confuse, @JamD post give me a direction which I will explore for further understanding about UCAVs in armed forces of Pakistan.

Look at @Farooq Bhai's posts as well on the subject. There appears a push to establish a lo hi combination for Pak forces. There have been some really illuminating posts from some posters and if combined together gives you an idea of what the Pak forces are trying to do.
However I suspect at some stage they will look at unifying infrastructure to create commonality and increase local manufacturing and therefore content.
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