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Pakistan number one in child pornography, says minister

Yes No bro, I never meant you were wrong, I apologise if I didn’t clearly wrote what wanted to express.

No no, no need to apologize, c'mon.

Yes we need more than tweet, but hey at least someone had raised the problem. Hope she will raise the problem again and again and others will join her and push for real action on ground!


Absolutely agreed. But first, we need to get past the point where we still censor these subjects from social discourse. Not to save the perp, not to bury the crime, but because it is somehow too taboo. I read somewhere that there was a drama made in Pakistan on the subject of child abuse but it was banned from airing by the authorities because they deemed the subject matter too 'sensitive'. In too many cases the parents of the child themselves want to bury everything fearing societal repercussions for their child. One can't even hold them responsible for this stupidity. We, as a nation and society, need to get a hold of ourselves. Everything should be up for discussion, everything.



I heard Same in France :enjoy:

in America those convicted of child sex crimes get special treatment at hands of other inmates :enjoy:

Heard it's the same in Pakistan too. Apart from the inmates, the prison guards and the police don't take lightly on them either. That's when 'fake encounters' and 'heart attacks' in custody happen in Pakistan. The judicial system is to be blamed for this, imo.
 
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Prison Is 'Living Hell' for Pedophiles
https://abcnews.go.com/US/prison-living-hell-pedophiles/story?id=90004
  • By MICHAEL S. JAMES
Aug. 26, 2003

In prison, fellow inmates derisively call pedophiles "chesters," "tree jumpers" and "short eyes."

Prison can be a menacing place for child molesters like the former Roman Catholic priest John Geoghan, who was killed in his cell Saturday — or for other alleged pedophile priests working their way through the criminal justice system.

"If you take out a sex offender like this former priest in Massachusetts, maybe the person who took him out thought he'd make a name of himself," said Margot Bach, a spokeswoman for California Department of Corrections. "Taking [a pedophile] out would gain [the killer] a lot more respect among the other inmates."

In fact, Goeghan's accused killer, Joseph Druce, "looked upon Father Geoghan as a prize," and plotted his killing for a month, John Conte, district attorney for Worcester County, Mass., told reporters Monday.


Though prison officials in some Northeastern states question the idea of an automatic social hierarchy among prisoners based solely upon their offenses, most agree that if there is one, child molesters and informants — derided as "snitches" — occupy the lowest rungs.

‘They Usually Don’t Make It’
Such offenders, including Geoghan, often are placed into protective custody with other prisoners seen to be under a threat.

"Once their crime has become known, they usually don't make it" without protective custody, said Lt. Ken Lewis, a corrections officer and spokesman at California's Los Angeles County State Prison. "There's a lot of [pedophiles] that can successfully make it … as long as they don't brag about their offense."

If they do talk, "they'll get beat up," Lewis added. "In some places he may even get his throat cut."

That potentially could mean a lot of inmates at risk. At the end of 2001, about 83,000 state prison inmates, or about 6.8 percent, were male sex offenders who had committed a rape or sexual assault against a minor under age 18, according to Allen Beck, chief of corrections statistics for the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Just 56 state and federal prisoners out of a population of about 1.3 million were actually killed by other inmates during the yearlong period between July 1999 and June 2000, and it was unknown how many were pedophiles, Beck said.

But unpopular prisoners also can be harassed in other ways.

"[Child sex offenders] are at risk of being murdered, having their food taken, having their cells defecated and urinated in," said Leslie Walker, a prisoner's rights activist with the Massachusetts Correctional Legal Society. "Their life is truly a living hell."

‘Who’s Running This’ Prison?
Part of the reason pedophiles can be so reviled is that some inmates are parents, and many were themselves sexually abused as children, some say. Druce's father told The Boston Herald that Druce frequently had been molested.

Some reports have described Druce, 37, as a member of the neo-Nazi hate group Aryan Nation. In particular, Druce — who is serving a life sentence for killing a gay man who picked him up as a hitchhiker in 1988 — "has a long-standing phobia, it appears, towards homosexuals of any kind," Conte said.

With such a background, critics — including Walker and Kazi Toure, an ex-convict and prisoner support worker who still visits Massachusetts prisons — are asking how Druce could have been placed in protective custody so near to the frail, 68-year-old Geoghan at the maximum-security Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Mass.

Walker cited "a culture of looking the other way in prison." Toure, co-director of the American Friends Service Committee's Criminal Justice Program in Cambridge, Mass., said he, too, was suspicious.

"For this guy who is in prison for killing a gay person … he's seeing Geoghan every day, so this stuff has got to be coming up inside of him," Toure said. "We're spending all this money [on high-tech prisons], and the guy got killed, and they want to blame it on the crazy guy? Who's running this?"

Michael Shively, a former Massachusetts corrections official, said even though Geoghan was in protective custody, it was impossible to completely guarantee his safety given that the other inmates who require protection are drawn from a difficult and dangerous population.

"To put together a group of people where it looks like no offender is a threat to another offender is almost impossible when you're drawing from that pool," Shively said.

Local Variations
The pool of prisoners in protective custody can vary from state to state, and does not automatically include all child molesters and informants, officials and aid workers said.

California prison officials described a good deal of racial and gang affiliation among that state's prison population and a crime-based hierarchy among inmates — with certain murderers at the top of the heap.

Ironically, they said killing someone either at the top or the bottom of the totem pole will garner respect for the killer among fellow inmates — so child molesters and high-profile killers both tend to be given protective custody unless they're deemed tough or discreet enough to get along in the general population.

But things are different in other parts of the country, said Ed Ramsey, a spokesman for the Connecticut Department of Corrections, and a former corrections officer at a maximum-security prison in the state.

Ramsey does not see a clearly defined "hierarchy of crimes" among Connecticut inmates, nor large amounts of self-segregation along gang and racial lines. Therefore, he said, the state evaluates candidates for protective custody on a case-by-case basis — considering those who legitimately feel endangered, or who the institution sees as potential targets and therefore threats to maintaining order. Such targets might include inmates in high-profile cases or jailed former law enforcement officers.

In a further effort to maintain order, Connecticut officials do segregate suspected members of certain gangs, including the Aryan Brotherhood, within the prison system, Ramsey said.

Toure said although Massachusetts inmates may mock or scorn pedophiles, he does not see a strict hierarchy of crimes in the state's prisons that would lead to violence.

"I left Walpole [a maximum-security prison in Massachusetts] in '87 and there wasn't a P.C. [protective custody] unit anymore … because that stuff wasn't happening anymore, because people weren't killing other people because of sex offenders or anything like that," he said. "It had died down."

But Toure said hate can fuel violence if it festers, and as prison services for inmates are cut due to budget constraints, inmates with personal issues can lash out at others who personify their problems. He said the Geoghan killing might be a case in point.

"They don't give [Druce] any counseling or any programs to help him deal with any problems that brought him in prison," Toure claimed. "Then, they put him in protective custody … with John Geoghan, who's in jail for child molestation."

ABCNEWS' Dan Harris contributed to this report.
 
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No evidence found of pornographic material being created in Pakistan, PTA chairman tells Senate panel


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Islamabad: No evidence has been found regarding pornographic material being created in Pakistan, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority Chairman told Senate's Standing Committee on Information Technology on Wednesday.

The meeting was presided over by Senator Robina Khalid.


PTA chairman Azim Bajwa said the prime minister had also taken a briefing on the subject.

He informed the panel that the PTA's role was restricted to blocking the pornographic material only.

"We also exchange data with Interpol about pornography," he said.

The PTA chairman said as many as 2,384 websites with child pornography have been blocked by his organization while in total 800,000 pornographic websites are blocked in Pakistan.

He said 11 proxy websites were also restricted in the country.

The PTA chairman said according to a Google report, inclination towards pornographic content was in decline in Pakistan.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/4...d-in-pakistan-pta-chairman-tells-senate-panel
 
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Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari on Thursday said Pakistan, unfortunately, was number one in child pornography and emphasised the need for initiating a dialogue on the menace.

Speaking at the launch of Child Protection Campaign here, Mazari said the menace affected all strata of the society. "This matter is in every stratum of our society.” The minister explained that incidents of child abuse were increasing and that Pakistan was No 1 in terms of child pornography, adding, in that light, it was shameful that "we call ourselves Muslims", Geo News reported. She suggested that a campaign should be launched at the school level to sensitize students to the menace.

She said the society must get out of its cocoon and hold a dialogue on child abuse. "In order to put an end to incidents of sexual abuse of children, we need to launch collective efforts," she added. The minister said in spite of rise in the number of child abuse incidents, no dialogue had been held at any level.

"We even don't talk to children about child abuse at any level or schools or households. Development is meaningless if children are not safe from abuse. We will analyse all complaints of child abuse to the ministry," she stressed.

Mazari said it was sad that Zainab Alert, Response and Recovery Act, 2019 was yet to be passed by the National Assembly's Standing Committee on Human Rights. "Its chairperson is Bilawal Bhutto Zardari," Mazari said, adding that there should be nopolitics on matters pertaining to children.

"Hope, the bill returns to the assembly soon. If there's law, punishments can be awarded in accordance with that. This message needs to be spread in order to eliminate child abuse," she added.

In addition, the Ministry of Human Rights secretary commented that a national action plan for the rights of children had been prepared. He said bills on child abuse were in Parliament and of those the noteworthy one was Zainab Alert, Response and Recovery Act, 2019.

Social activist and singer Shehzad Roy said there was a need to break the mental barriers for creating awareness about child abuse and sexual assault. "People don't even talk about it with parents and friends," he said.

Noting that the campaign launch was a major effort on part of the human rights ministry, he said, "Parents should talk to their children about sexual abuse and assault." Roy noted that one in every five persons in Pakistan was subjected to sexual assault and abuse but, unfortunately, no one talked about it. "Those who rape and murder should be awarded the strictest of punishments," he added.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/493856-pakistan-number-one-in-child-pornography-says-minister
I don't know how she know that.. What was her source of this information?
 
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Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari on Thursday said Pakistan, unfortunately, was number one in child pornography and emphasised the need for initiating a dialogue on the menace.


.. she obviously hasn't been to Russia..
 
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Child pornography exists there is no point denying it. We must do something. Enough is enough. If you deny it then you are part of the problem. Culprits should be killed publicly, so the awaam know's what the penalty is and will think twice before committing such heinous crime on a child.
 
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Honestly pedophilia is an issue everywhere.

Look at the US with all the rich people doing kids or going to ASEAN to exploit underage Asians (Remember Elon's tweet?) and also the trafficking at the US Mexico border.

Japan is famous for exploitation of children and also their Hentai which we all watch.

Rest of East Asia is no exception.

In the middle east and South Asia it's probably more of a cultural backwardness.

We don't even know what happens in Africa, but can assume it's pretty bad.

Europeans are similar to Americans (same people basically).


Men run the world so it's unlikely much will be done about it.
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In the middle east and South Asia it's probably more of a cultural backwardness.

of course.. if only those backward people from the M.E & South Asia could exploit their children with class and elegance like the rest of the planet..
 
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I don’t think this is true, rather it is Indian propaganda.

Such things are much more prevalent and normalized in the US and India than Pakistan.

Rapes in those countries are sadly daily news in every city.

In Pakistan, one rape is discussed for months/years and laws are being passed to deal with the situation.

I appreciate Shireen Mazari for bringing attention to this issue and we definitely need more surveillance and strict laws to deal with the issue.
 
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Will the honorable minister be held accountable for this apparent propaganda?
 
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Someone needs to give a shut up call to this mother daughter duo of Shireen and Imaan mazari
 
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PTI is above law. You should know this by now

But she has made grave accusations which should be investigated. We cannot politicize this and i should request you to not make it political either.
 
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