Pakistan Nuclear Energy Developments

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Why china is giving a small nuke plant 320 MW, with total capacity of 640 MW only?

Pakistan was reportedly interested in the 600 MWe power plants China operates, but did not select them for multiple reasons:

1. Only 50-60% domestic Chinese content.
2. Constructed with French and Japanese assistance, with Japan manufacturing significant amount of equipment - implies NSG approval and export approval from Japan and possibly France.
3. Limited operational experience in China (Started operation in 2002)

http://www.npec-web.org/Presentations/BraunSlides.pdf

 

[Omar1984]

China is Pakistan's most reliable ally and Pakistan's true friend.

We will teach our children and grandchildren that China is our best friend and always respect China.

Long Live Pakistan-China Friendship !!!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

China ....

GREAT NATION


Proud nation

 

[Hyde]

That was in reference to the Khushab reactor that will likely be used for military purposes.

Chashma 2 is supposed to be operational by 2012.

On 04 May 2004 Pakistan and China sign an agreement to build the second nuclear power plant. The deal was signed by Pakistan Prime Minister Zafarullah Jamali. The plant will be built next to the first Chinese supplied plant, which became operational in 1999 at Chashma. The projected cost is about $600 million and will be completed by 2010.

Source: Chasma - Pakistan Special Weapons Facilities

There are so many news in the internet from both Pakistani and international sources confirming Chashma 2 was supposed to be operational by 2010. I wonder why i have been hearing recently that it will be operational by 2012 now?

 

[qsaark]

There are so many news in the internet from both Pakistani and international sources confirming Chashma 2 was supposed to be operational by 2010. I wonder why i have been hearing recently that it will be operational by 2012 now?

Such delays are pretty normal for these kind of projects; I'll keep my fingers crossed. The most reassuring is the fact that in this project, our partner is trustworthy China, not some backstabber. We might experience some delays, but project will be successfully completed.

 

[Waffen SS]

These days I am doing some research work on the ECONOMICS of nuclear powerplants.

Inshallah, very soon, I will share my work on this forum.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

On the nuclear front the PAEC is looking to install up to 8800 MWe of nuclear power. Given that after CHASNUPP 3 & 4 China and Pakistan will have to get an NSG waiver for any future deals, I have to wonder how the PAEC planned to cater for potential NSG roadblocks.

Browsing one the other threads I came across this old post:

Pakistan to manufacture nuclear power plants​

(Kyodo) _ Pakistan has decided to embark on the indigenous manufacture of 300-megawatt commercial nuclear power plants to meet growing energy needs, reliable official sources have said.

They said Pakistan decided to go for indigenous manufacture of commercial nuclear power plants because of the poor response of the United States and the Nuclear Supplier Group to requests for help in the civilian nuclear energy program on the pattern of the 2004 India-U.S. nuclear deal.

"We have taken many steps and more are on the anvil to start indigenous manufacture of 300-MW pressurized water reactor," the sources said.

They pointed out that an Engineering and Design Organization has been set up to design and develop a standard for indigenous nuclear power plants and privatization of the Chinese-aided Heavy Mechanical Complex, or HMC, was reversed by the government when it was pointed out that Pakistan was capable of manufacturing components for nuclear power plants.

HMC can manufacture several key components of thermal power plants which could also be used in the nuclear power plants and Pakistan has also set up HMC-3 exclusively to contribute in the indigenous nuclear power plants.

Official sources pointed out that Pakistan's "Energy Security Plan" envisaged 8,500 MW of nuclear energy by 2030, which would require setting up 22 nuclear power plants of 300-mw capacity if the target is to be met.

"Sites for eight nuclear power plants have already been selected," the official said and indicated that a consortium of private and public industrial units would be set up to undertake manufacture of the nuclear power plants.

Pakistan has set up a 300-MW nuclear power plant at Chashma (Chashnupp-1) in the Mianwali district in southern Punjab with Chinese assistance and a second plant is under construction at the same site.

Although Chashnupp-1 and 2 were turnkey contracts, Pakistan contributed up to 30 percent of their components, which could be increased to 70 percent.

"No country can manufacture a nuclear power plant 100 percent all by itself. We cannot produce reactor shells, several pumps and the pressure vessels for which we will have to develop additional capacity or enter into a licensing agreement," an official said.

Pakistan has already commissioned a 50-MW indigenous heavy water reactor at Khushab that is yielding plutonium for the nuclear weapons program.

Two additional reactors of same capacity are believed to be under construction at the same site.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070626/kyodo/d8q07bq80.html

My guess is that after CHASHNUPP 3&4 Pakistan is hoping to have absorbed enough technical know-how to manufacture 70% plus of the CHASNUPP style reactors indigenously, and therefore might be able to bypass the NSG by constructing more reactors herself.

Of course this ignores the possibility of the NSG granting a waiver to Pakistan similar to India's, or at the least granting case-specific waivers depending upon the project, in which case Pakistan might explore the possibility of new designs of 600 MWe+ capacity each.

 

[ajpirzada]

very interesting post. to be honest these sanctions have always helped us in the long run.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Separated the nuclear energy related posts and merged into this thread to discuss separately from the other energy projects

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

^^ lolzzzz......... i did it again without realising you have already done it.

After I did it I realized I should have told you first since you were browsing the thread.

Sorry, my bad.

 

[ajpirzada]

After I did it I realized I should have told you first since you were browsing the thread.

Sorry, my bad.

its only ur stealth mode which is to be blamed. lolzzz
anyways i have corrected it.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Chashma Nuclear Power Complex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chashma Nuclear Power Plant II[edit]

The 300 MW Chashma Nuclear Power Plant II, like CHASNUPP-I, is part of the Chashma Nuclear Power Complex in the northwestern region of the Thal Doab. The site is located south of Mianwali, near the Chashma Barrage and on the left bank of the Indus River.
The 300 MW Chashma Nuclear Power Plant II was officially inaugurated on May 10, 2011 by former Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gillani.[4]
Chashma Nuclear Power Plant III[edit]

On April 28, 2009 a general engineering and design contract for CHASNUPP-3 and CHASNUPP-4 was signed with Shanghai Nuclear Engineering Research and Design Institute (SNERDI). The units will both have generation capacity of 340MWe and a design life of 40 years.
On March 6 2013 the dome of the third reactor was lifted into place. Construction is planned to be completed in 2016 for No. III, and in 2017 for No. IV.[5]
Chashma Nuclear Power Plant IV[edit]

On April 28, 2009 a general engineering and design contract for CHASNUPP-3 and CHASNUPP-4 was signed with Shanghai Nuclear Engineering Research and Design Institute (SNERDI). The units will both have generation capacity of 340MWe and a design life of 40 years.
Chashma Nuclear Power Plant V[edit]

On March 2013, Pakistan and China agreed to build a 1000 MW CHASNUPP-5 at Chashma Nuclear Power Complex.[6]
Nuclear Engineering Training center[edit]

The complex has its own training establishment, known as CHASCENT (CHASNUPP Center of Nuclear Training). CHASCENT houses a Full Scope Training Simulator (FSTS) for CHASNUPP-1 and a similar facility for CHASNUPP-2 is under construction. The simulator is used for providing training to the nuclear power plant operators. Apart from training nuclear plant operators the center offers various engineering programs at diploma and degree levels. The center is currently in a phase of expansion to cater to an ever-increasing demand for quality technicians and engineers within PAEC.