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Pakistan needs a balanced, not Independent Foreign Policy

A great article that addresses this issue of anti-Americanism, espoused by many, head-on despite all the talk by very many of our governments including PTI to have an "independent" FP. When we dig in, which most in the public don't bother with as sloganeering is enough to keep them busy, we realize that Pakistan's options are extremely limited. This is the realpolitik facing Pakistan.


Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy​

A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers



Syed Abdul Ahad WasimApril 19, 2022


The writer is a Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy (MALD) candidate at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, focusing on International Security and International Development

In his last few weeks in office prior to the dissolution of National Assembly, Prime Minister Imran Khan continuously emphasised that under his leadership Pakistan pursued an “independent” foreign policy. In fact, he blamed the pursuit of such an independent foreign policy for his ouster from power as a result of a foreign conspiracy. In his March 31st address to the nation, Imran Khan defined an independent foreign policy in his own words “as one which is meant for Pakistanis” i.e. one that takes into account the aspirations or the will of the people of Pakistan.
If prime minister’s own definition of an independent foreign policy is taken as the guiding light, it would be difficult to make a case that he did actually pursue such an independent foreign policy. For instance, most Pakistanis would want Pakistan to at least condemn Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and other Muslim states for normalising diplomatic ties with Israel. Many would want an end to Saudi Arabia’s massacre of fellow Muslims in Yemen. A considerable number would also perhaps want Pakistan to voice concern regarding the treatment of Muslim Uighurs in China [that's exaggerated western propaganda - Chinese head attends mosques in same province too]. Yet, it is hard to imagine that any government in Pakistan, let alone Imran Khan’s, would stand up to Saudi Arabia or the UAE or China regardless of what the aspirations of the people are. ["ھم کسی کی جنگ میں حصہ نہیں بنیں گے" answers this]
Is it not then that an “independent foreign policy” is merely another name for defying the West — and the West only? [Negative - - - see above]
If so, such an independent foreign policy would only be partially independent [busted above - - - hence any repetition of this poor logic in rest of this article is null & void] because a true independent foreign policy would mean that Pakistan would freely choose its course of action in the best of its interests [writer nullified his own logic :lol: - if it's in Pak best interest then Pak may not object to China Saudi Arabia UAE - that does NOT make it a non-independent policy - it's just interest-driven-police which as per writer is the very definition of "independent policy"] irrespective of whether such a policy defies not just the West but even the East, including China.


[ - - - Reading beyond this is waste of my time - so I stop here - - - ]



Even a cursory moment of reflection would make it clear that Pakistan cannot pursue such a “truly” independent foreign policy, even if it wishes to.
Under Imran Khan’s watch, Pakistan refused to participate in the Kuala Lumpur Summit under pressure from Saudi Arabia; did not join the global outrage against China’s actions in Hong Kong; did not condemn the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi; did not share the worldwide condemnation of the treatment of Uighurs in China; could not expel the French ambassador after French President’s statement calling Islam as problematic despite Imran Khan being a vocal critic of Islamophobia and despite there being country-wide protests; and could not say a word of condemnation on normalisation of ties between Arab states and Israel and had to resign for a cautious reaction, “This is a development with far-reaching implications.”
The point here is not whether Pakistan should have or should not have done all this. The point here is that in international relations, middle or weak powers cannot always do what they wish to do because they are economically, militarily and diplomatically dependent on other powerful states. In other words, they cannot be truly “free” and thus “independent” in conducting their foreign policies. Any politician suggesting otherwise is only doing politics.
Nations are dictated by raison d’état or reason — at least supposedly. For middle powers like Pakistan, reason necessitates the pursuit of balanced, not a fictitious “independent”, foreign policy. Most ordinary Pakistanis miss this simple yet important point, or perhaps they never get told about it because it may be politically unattractive.
A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers. It would mean that Pakistani policymakers and Pakistanis understand that it is in their interests to have friendly and deep-rooted ties with not only China but with the West too. And for that to happen, we must stop viewing foreign policy from the lens of friend-enemy dichotomy.
West is not necessarily an enemy of Pakistan. And, China is our “permanent” friend only until we serve China’s interests. Beyond “West is enemy” rhetoric, Pakistanis must understand that West is one power pole. Anyone presuming that West’s interests are fundamentally and permanently antithetical to our interests does not understand how power operates in international relations. Because those who do understand the workings of power also understand the simple proposition that the West has its own interests that sometimes align with our interests and sometimes do not. Clichédly put, only thing that is permanent is interests, not enemies or friends. Over the course of our relations with the United States, Pakistan and America have — at more than one instance — deeply, strategically collaborated with each other to pursue mutually beneficial interests. In fact, during the Cold War, the United States was thought of as being closer to Pakistan as India was deemed to be closer to the USSR.
Nor is West necessarily anti-Islam, notwithstanding the legitimate concerns regarding rising Islamophobia. If West was against Islam per se, logic dictates that it should have had the worst of relations with the Muslim-majority countries. But the reality is quite the contrary. America and Europe, for example, have deep-rooted economic, security and diplomatic ties with many Muslim states — especially with the Arabic-speaking Muslim Gulf.
The West — with an over 50 per cent share in global GDP — is as an economic hegemon, and, like other Muslim states, Pakistan too should maintain friendly relations with the West.
In his speeches, Prime Minister Imran Khan also cites India as an example of a country with an independent foreign policy. This too is only rhetorical because in reality Pakistan cannot pursue an independent foreign policy while India can simply because Pakistan is not India. Whereas India is an emerging economic giant with over a billion people, Pakistan is living off bailouts from the West-led international financial institutions. All countries — be they Pakistan’s “enemies” or “friends”, including China — wish to have stronger ties with India because they see it to be mutually beneficial. That gives India the leverage to exercise greater autonomy over its foreign policy. Any comparison between India’s independent conduct of its foreign policy with that of Pakistan’s constrained conduct is only either foolish or politically expedient. Before Pakistan can emulate India’s independent foreign policy, it should work towards emulating India’s economic strength.
Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy at least at this point in its history. It should actively work towards maintaining friendly ties with all those countries that can maximise its own benefits. Therefore, opposing West in the name of fictitious “independent” foreign policy, and thus unnecessarily intoxicating ties and forgoing important benefits, will be highly imprudent.
Published in The Express Tribune, April 19th, 2022.

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Writer contradicts himself. Some of my thoughts in RED in-line text ⤴️

These two terms don't seem mutually exclusive! "balanced, not independent". As the title seems to put it.

IK's statement in KHI jalsa "ھم دوستی سب سے چاھتے ھیں، غلامی کسے کی نہیں" paraphrase the same concept that writer probably wanted to bring up.

Or, the writer probably wanted to say what Bajwa "allegedly" said before ex-comrades:
"میں نے اس سے کہا آپ جو مرضی کریں، بس اوپنلی امریکہ کی برائی نہ کریں، انہوں نے ھمیں پیسے دینے ھوتے ھیں". :lol:
 
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Writer contradicts himself. Some of my thoughts in RED in-line text ⤴️

These two terms don't seem mutually exclusive! "balanced, not independent". As the title seems to put it.

IK's statement in KHI jalsa "ھم دوستی سب سے چاھتے ھیں، غلامی کسے کی نہیں" paraphrase the same concept that writer probably wanted to bring up.

Or, the writer probably wanted to say what Bajwa "allegedly" said before ex-comrades:
"میں نے اس سے کہا آپ جو مرضی کریں، بس اوپنلی امریکہ کی برائی نہ کریں، انہوں نے ھمیں پیسے دینے ھوتے ھیں". :lol:
It's really sad that several of the people who liked this article are extremely active members of the forum. I don't know if they are Pakistani or not.
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Turning to the last page, there are only a few who see the problem with this article. Your comment gives me hope that there are still some sober people out there.

I really wanted to point out the problem with this article by taking a screenshot and attaching text to it, but I'm too lazy, and besides, the mere fact that you pointed it out makes this article worthless.
It's really sad to see so many people praising this article, maybe this is the benefit of mastering the media and the art of talking, you can easily sway the minds of the people.
 
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What does this article really suggest? It is the same old gun for hire approach.

I always had my suspicions about the top leadership in the armed forces. The toppling of PTI leadership by Bajwa has unequivocally confirmed my suspicions.

It's really sad that several of the people who liked this article are extremely active members of the forum. I don't know if they are Pakistani or not. View attachment 836428




Turning to the last page, there are only a few who see the problem with this article. Your comment gives me hope that there are still some sober people out there.

I really wanted to point out the problem with this article by taking a screenshot and attaching text to it, but I'm too lazy, and besides, the mere fact that you pointed it out makes this article worthless.
It's really sad to see so many people praising this article, maybe this is the benefit of mastering the media and the art of talking, you can easily sway the minds of the people.

Americans, Indians and Noora's. Surprise?
 
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this guy has no idea what he is talking about !
 
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Only an independent foreign policy, by its very definition, can be a balanced foreign policy.
 
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A great article that addresses this issue of anti-Americanism, espoused by many, head-on despite all the talk by very many of our governments including PTI to have an "independent" FP. When we dig in, which most in the public don't bother with as sloganeering is enough to keep them busy, we realize that Pakistan's options are extremely limited. This is the realpolitik facing Pakistan.


Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy​

A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers



Syed Abdul Ahad WasimApril 19, 2022


The writer is a Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy (MALD) candidate at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, focusing on International Security and International Development

In his last few weeks in office prior to the dissolution of National Assembly, Prime Minister Imran Khan continuously emphasised that under his leadership Pakistan pursued an “independent” foreign policy. In fact, he blamed the pursuit of such an independent foreign policy for his ouster from power as a result of a foreign conspiracy. In his March 31st address to the nation, Imran Khan defined an independent foreign policy in his own words “as one which is meant for Pakistanis” i.e. one that takes into account the aspirations or the will of the people of Pakistan.
If prime minister’s own definition of an independent foreign policy is taken as the guiding light, it would be difficult to make a case that he did actually pursue such an independent foreign policy. For instance, most Pakistanis would want Pakistan to at least condemn Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and other Muslim states for normalising diplomatic ties with Israel. Many would want an end to Saudi Arabia’s massacre of fellow Muslims in Yemen. A considerable number would also perhaps want Pakistan to voice concern regarding the treatment of Muslim Uighurs in China. Yet, it is hard to imagine that any government in Pakistan, let alone Imran Khan’s, would stand up to Saudi Arabia or the UAE or China regardless of what the aspirations of the people are.
Is it not then that an “independent foreign policy” is merely another name for defying the West — and the West only?
If so, such an independent foreign policy would only be partially independent because a true independent foreign policy would mean that Pakistan would freely choose its course of action in the best of its interests irrespective of whether such a policy defies not just the West but even the East, including China.
Even a cursory moment of reflection would make it clear that Pakistan cannot pursue such a “truly” independent foreign policy, even if it wishes to.
Under Imran Khan’s watch, Pakistan refused to participate in the Kuala Lumpur Summit under pressure from Saudi Arabia; did not join the global outrage against China’s actions in Hong Kong; did not condemn the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi; did not share the worldwide condemnation of the treatment of Uighurs in China; could not expel the French ambassador after French President’s statement calling Islam as problematic despite Imran Khan being a vocal critic of Islamophobia and despite there being country-wide protests; and could not say a word of condemnation on normalisation of ties between Arab states and Israel and had to resign for a cautious reaction, “This is a development with far-reaching implications.”
The point here is not whether Pakistan should have or should not have done all this. The point here is that in international relations, middle or weak powers cannot always do what they wish to do because they are economically, militarily and diplomatically dependent on other powerful states. In other words, they cannot be truly “free” and thus “independent” in conducting their foreign policies. Any politician suggesting otherwise is only doing politics.
Nations are dictated by raison d’état or reason — at least supposedly. For middle powers like Pakistan, reason necessitates the pursuit of balanced, not a fictitious “independent”, foreign policy. Most ordinary Pakistanis miss this simple yet important point, or perhaps they never get told about it because it may be politically unattractive.
A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers. It would mean that Pakistani policymakers and Pakistanis understand that it is in their interests to have friendly and deep-rooted ties with not only China but with the West too. And for that to happen, we must stop viewing foreign policy from the lens of friend-enemy dichotomy.
West is not necessarily an enemy of Pakistan. And, China is our “permanent” friend only until we serve China’s interests. Beyond “West is enemy” rhetoric, Pakistanis must understand that West is one power pole. Anyone presuming that West’s interests are fundamentally and permanently antithetical to our interests does not understand how power operates in international relations. Because those who do understand the workings of power also understand the simple proposition that the West has its own interests that sometimes align with our interests and sometimes do not. Clichédly put, only thing that is permanent is interests, not enemies or friends. Over the course of our relations with the United States, Pakistan and America have — at more than one instance — deeply, strategically collaborated with each other to pursue mutually beneficial interests. In fact, during the Cold War, the United States was thought of as being closer to Pakistan as India was deemed to be closer to the USSR.
Nor is West necessarily anti-Islam, notwithstanding the legitimate concerns regarding rising Islamophobia. If West was against Islam per se, logic dictates that it should have had the worst of relations with the Muslim-majority countries. But the reality is quite the contrary. America and Europe, for example, have deep-rooted economic, security and diplomatic ties with many Muslim states — especially with the Arabic-speaking Muslim Gulf.
The West — with an over 50 per cent share in global GDP — is as an economic hegemon, and, like other Muslim states, Pakistan too should maintain friendly relations with the West.
In his speeches, Prime Minister Imran Khan also cites India as an example of a country with an independent foreign policy. This too is only rhetorical because in reality Pakistan cannot pursue an independent foreign policy while India can simply because Pakistan is not India. Whereas India is an emerging economic giant with over a billion people, Pakistan is living off bailouts from the West-led international financial institutions. All countries — be they Pakistan’s “enemies” or “friends”, including China — wish to have stronger ties with India because they see it to be mutually beneficial. That gives India the leverage to exercise greater autonomy over its foreign policy. Any comparison between India’s independent conduct of its foreign policy with that of Pakistan’s constrained conduct is only either foolish or politically expedient. Before Pakistan can emulate India’s independent foreign policy, it should work towards emulating India’s economic strength.
Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy at least at this point in its history. It should actively work towards maintaining friendly ties with all those countries that can maximise its own benefits. Therefore, opposing West in the name of fictitious “independent” foreign policy, and thus unnecessarily intoxicating ties and forgoing important benefits, will be highly imprudent.
Published in The Express Tribune, April 19th, 2022.
I have read some of the article.

I disagree with the title.

We need a balanced and independent foreign policy.
Look at China, they have an independent foreign policy.
 
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I have read some of the article.

I disagree with the title.

We need a balanced and independent foreign policy.
Look at China, they have an independent foreign policy.

You are sandwiched between states more powerful than you -- Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, India and China. Of course you have uno numero USA.
Your only choice is try to balance.
 
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More importantly - those trying for a balance in foreign policy must first be experts in it. That comes with focused education and experience in that field. Not cricket, politics, businesses, military or otherwise - only a seasoned foreign policy expert who spent his entire life studying and practicing in the field is best placed to define it.

I agree here -- except face it in Pakistan you need to keep army generals in the loop
 
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You are sandwiched between states more powerful than you -- Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, India and China. Of course you have uno numero USA.
Your only choice is try to balance.
And how is India more powerful than Pakistan.

We too have nuclear weapons you know.

And India is not USA.

There is quite a difference
 
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We need an independent foreign policy. We can't have one whilst we are reliant on others. We'll actually we can but we have to be prepared to face the consequences of that.
You have to understand when other countries invest in Pakistan they don't do so for charity reasons, it is because of the strategic benefits they can gain from us. This is leverage and the basis for dictating ones own foreign policy, of course while involving the interests of our stakeholders. The strategy as I understood it was supposed to be to function as a "Pivot State" while developing our national capacities, and then to transition into independence. Of course our Chutiya of Army Staff has chosen to "pivot" 80% in the direction of our abuser.....

Its key to note that few countries are purely independent, if any, we live in an interdependent age where no one can make decisions without considering the implications on their foreign relations.
 
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Some people just have a servant mentality
Some heads of the institutions. Not some random people. If you and I had a servant/slave mentality nothing much changes. It's the slavery of the policy makers which is screwing us continuously!

A great article that addresses this issue of anti-Americanism, espoused by many, head-on despite all the talk by very many of our governments including PTI to have an "independent" FP. When we dig in, which most in the public don't bother with as sloganeering is enough to keep them busy, we realize that Pakistan's options are extremely limited. This is the realpolitik facing Pakistan.


Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy​

A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers



Syed Abdul Ahad WasimApril 19, 2022


The writer is a Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy (MALD) candidate at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, focusing on International Security and International Development

In his last few weeks in office prior to the dissolution of National Assembly, Prime Minister Imran Khan continuously emphasised that under his leadership Pakistan pursued an “independent” foreign policy. In fact, he blamed the pursuit of such an independent foreign policy for his ouster from power as a result of a foreign conspiracy. In his March 31st address to the nation, Imran Khan defined an independent foreign policy in his own words “as one which is meant for Pakistanis” i.e. one that takes into account the aspirations or the will of the people of Pakistan.
If prime minister’s own definition of an independent foreign policy is taken as the guiding light, it would be difficult to make a case that he did actually pursue such an independent foreign policy. For instance, most Pakistanis would want Pakistan to at least condemn Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and other Muslim states for normalising diplomatic ties with Israel. Many would want an end to Saudi Arabia’s massacre of fellow Muslims in Yemen. A considerable number would also perhaps want Pakistan to voice concern regarding the treatment of Muslim Uighurs in China. Yet, it is hard to imagine that any government in Pakistan, let alone Imran Khan’s, would stand up to Saudi Arabia or the UAE or China regardless of what the aspirations of the people are.
Is it not then that an “independent foreign policy” is merely another name for defying the West — and the West only?
If so, such an independent foreign policy would only be partially independent because a true independent foreign policy would mean that Pakistan would freely choose its course of action in the best of its interests irrespective of whether such a policy defies not just the West but even the East, including China.
Even a cursory moment of reflection would make it clear that Pakistan cannot pursue such a “truly” independent foreign policy, even if it wishes to.
Under Imran Khan’s watch, Pakistan refused to participate in the Kuala Lumpur Summit under pressure from Saudi Arabia; did not join the global outrage against China’s actions in Hong Kong; did not condemn the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi; did not share the worldwide condemnation of the treatment of Uighurs in China; could not expel the French ambassador after French President’s statement calling Islam as problematic despite Imran Khan being a vocal critic of Islamophobia and despite there being country-wide protests; and could not say a word of condemnation on normalisation of ties between Arab states and Israel and had to resign for a cautious reaction, “This is a development with far-reaching implications.”
The point here is not whether Pakistan should have or should not have done all this. The point here is that in international relations, middle or weak powers cannot always do what they wish to do because they are economically, militarily and diplomatically dependent on other powerful states. In other words, they cannot be truly “free” and thus “independent” in conducting their foreign policies. Any politician suggesting otherwise is only doing politics.
Nations are dictated by raison d’état or reason — at least supposedly. For middle powers like Pakistan, reason necessitates the pursuit of balanced, not a fictitious “independent”, foreign policy. Most ordinary Pakistanis miss this simple yet important point, or perhaps they never get told about it because it may be politically unattractive.
A balanced foreign policy would mean a policy of cooperation and co-habitation with all major powers. It would mean that Pakistani policymakers and Pakistanis understand that it is in their interests to have friendly and deep-rooted ties with not only China but with the West too. And for that to happen, we must stop viewing foreign policy from the lens of friend-enemy dichotomy.
West is not necessarily an enemy of Pakistan. And, China is our “permanent” friend only until we serve China’s interests. Beyond “West is enemy” rhetoric, Pakistanis must understand that West is one power pole. Anyone presuming that West’s interests are fundamentally and permanently antithetical to our interests does not understand how power operates in international relations. Because those who do understand the workings of power also understand the simple proposition that the West has its own interests that sometimes align with our interests and sometimes do not. Clichédly put, only thing that is permanent is interests, not enemies or friends. Over the course of our relations with the United States, Pakistan and America have — at more than one instance — deeply, strategically collaborated with each other to pursue mutually beneficial interests. In fact, during the Cold War, the United States was thought of as being closer to Pakistan as India was deemed to be closer to the USSR.
Nor is West necessarily anti-Islam, notwithstanding the legitimate concerns regarding rising Islamophobia. If West was against Islam per se, logic dictates that it should have had the worst of relations with the Muslim-majority countries. But the reality is quite the contrary. America and Europe, for example, have deep-rooted economic, security and diplomatic ties with many Muslim states — especially with the Arabic-speaking Muslim Gulf.
The West — with an over 50 per cent share in global GDP — is as an economic hegemon, and, like other Muslim states, Pakistan too should maintain friendly relations with the West.
In his speeches, Prime Minister Imran Khan also cites India as an example of a country with an independent foreign policy. This too is only rhetorical because in reality Pakistan cannot pursue an independent foreign policy while India can simply because Pakistan is not India. Whereas India is an emerging economic giant with over a billion people, Pakistan is living off bailouts from the West-led international financial institutions. All countries — be they Pakistan’s “enemies” or “friends”, including China — wish to have stronger ties with India because they see it to be mutually beneficial. That gives India the leverage to exercise greater autonomy over its foreign policy. Any comparison between India’s independent conduct of its foreign policy with that of Pakistan’s constrained conduct is only either foolish or politically expedient. Before Pakistan can emulate India’s independent foreign policy, it should work towards emulating India’s economic strength.
Pakistan needs a balanced, not independent, foreign policy at least at this point in its history. It should actively work towards maintaining friendly ties with all those countries that can maximise its own benefits. Therefore, opposing West in the name of fictitious “independent” foreign policy, and thus unnecessarily intoxicating ties and forgoing important benefits, will be highly imprudent.
Published in The Express Tribune, April 19th, 2022.
1 question! Why you discussing these royal matters and "brilliant" ideas here with the peasants? It doesn't matter what these ants want or think! Share your ideas where it matters, if they are even willing to hear you.
Thanks 👍
 
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And how is India more powerful than Pakistan.

We too have nuclear weapons you know.

And India is not USA.

There is quite a difference

Lol India even being a US led Quad alliance trades and buy weapons from Russia. India simultaneously fights and trades with China. India has biggest ratio of expatriate manpower and huge business relationships in GCC countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE etc and also have close ties and trade deals with Iran. India buys Apache gunships from US, S400 Sam from Russia, drones from Israel and Fighters from France. US made India offers for their too of the line 4++ Gen fighters with ToT of F-21 (heavily upgraded F sola), Super hornet or F-15. While Pakistan can't get AH-1Z cobras or even the US made engine for Turkish T-129 helicopters.

Now let me know which of the above you can do simultaneously?
Can you get gas from Iran? Even if US doesn't object it! NO
Can you import wheat and oil from Russia and cheap prices?
Can you get AH-1Z and engines for the T-129?
Can you say No to the US because of your own national interests? India just did in case of Russia and Modi is still in the Govt. Never heard of any vote of no confidence against him, or their COAS condemning Russian actions in total disregard of his Government policies. Oh by the way who the hell is COAS in India nowadays? Haven't heard his name before.

Nation's power can't be measured in nukes. If so then Japan is the most pathetic nation on this planet earth. Stop using Japanese or even Korean products. Those "pathetic" people doesn't even have a nuke! Pathetic Malaysians and their cursed palm oil which we consume a lot. Pathetic little Singapore and list goes on.

As our current defense minister once said: koi Sharm Hoti hai, koi haya Hoti hai

India is 10x economy the Pakistan is

Iran and Saudi Arabia do not have nukes. They are more powerful than Pakistan
Include Turkey to it as well. They can develop their own IFVs, drones, Corvets, Frigates, Radars, Missiles, Gunships, Small weapons etc etc and we love to import from them. They are also upgrading your submarines too. Why? Because the strongest country on Earth can't even design and manufacture a single sensor of any type without some developed country's help
 
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