Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Could the Type 054A/P design be modified to fit 8-16 VLS just aft of the exhaust funnel. This would be perfect to fit LACM or long range air defense missiles like the HQ-9 and its derivatives (which would help destroy enemy Sukhois before they could launch Brahmos cruise missiles)

Especially if the PN could do this, 16 large VLS aft of the funnel, it wouldn’t really need to build a large tonnage ship, allow it to build more Type 054A/P at a lower cost then a large tonnage ship.

Similar to this design

https://twitter.com/x/status/1218591214057947140

There's no way Canada can afford this ship with COVID around. It's also pretty sad the newest frigate in Canadian navy was demissioned in the mid 90s.

 

[FuturePAF]

There's no way Canada can afford this ship with COVID around. It's also pretty sad the newest frigate in Canadian navy was demissioned in the mid 90s.

Also after the Biden Administration terminating the Keystone XL pipeline, Canadian oil exports will drop. IMHO, The Iroquois class were a decent ship; I got to visit one when it came to New York for Fleet Week and talk to members of the crew. I think their still operational, but they did make a mistake in going for those submarines. Considering their three coastlines and hundreds of islands, they should devote military resources to nuclear submarines.

All this is off topic. I posted that picture to show the placement of the 8 cell VLS aft of the exhaust funnel. An 8-16 cell VLS made up of the large VLS from Chinese destroyers would be perfect for the Pakistani Type 054A/P. It can fit LACM, or HQ-9, or long range ASROC, and possibly even anti-ship ballistic missiles. It would completely change naval warfare for the PN. This one ship could be a serious threat to not only enemy Submarines and destroyers, but even enemy Carriers, without having to calling in the Air Force.

VLS fired ASBM; with new warhead technology; hypersonic gliders; this could have an extremely long range and help knock out enemy carriers at the first indication the enemy is launching a massive attack

Chinese Navy May Be First To Get Ballistic Missiles

A Department of Defense report suggests that the Chinese Navy may put anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs) on its new cruisers. If so, they could become the most heavily armed anti-ship surface combatants in the world.

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[IblinI]

Your looking to add something like the YJ-18

YJ-18 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

High subsonic and sea skimming during cruise phase and terminal phase is Mach 3 with extreme maneuvers. This is basically the Chinese version of the Russian Klub Missile. Range is 220-540 km. It has a LACM variant as well as an anti shipping variant. It can also be fired from a VLS, so if we can make room for an 8 cell VLS Somewhere on the ship (the current VLS on the type 054a/p are too small to house this kind of a missile) or else it will have to be carried in the box launchers.

That’s a SLBM
For 533mm heavy weight Torpedos you have the Yu-9, which also seems to be very capable, based on the statistics.

Yu-10, Yu-11

 

[FuturePAF]

Yu-10, Yu-11

What are the calibre; Yu-9 is a heavyweight torpedo (533mm), 45km rangethat was developed by 2012.

What’s the Specifications of the Yu-10 and Yu-11?

If the PN can get “long VLS” on the Type 054A/P, it should us one of these heavy weight Torpedos as the core of a new long range Rocket assisted weapon.

 

[IblinI]

What are the calibre; Yu-9 is a heavyweight torpedo (533mm), 45km rangethat was developed by 2012.

What’s the Specifications of the Yu-10 and Yu-11?

If the PN can get “long VLS” on the Type 054A/P, it should us one of these heavy weight Torpedos as the core of a new long range Rocket assisted weapon.

The only things we know atm, Yu-10 heavy torpedo, Yu-11 lightweight.
This is said to be a photo of Yu-10 and YJ-18 from 2018.

 

[Han-Tang]

I hope its not another "loan" to be repaid with riba.

There you are！a jealous Indian，lol

 

[IblinI]

Also after the Biden Administration terminating the Keystone XL pipeline, Canadian oil exports will drop. IMHO, The Iroquois class were a decent ship; I got to visit one when it came to New York for Fleet Week and talk to members of the crew. I think their still operational, but they did make a mistake in going for those submarines. Considering their three coastlines and hundreds of islands, they should devote military resources to nuclear submarines.

All this is off topic. I posted that picture to show the placement of the 8 cell VLS aft of the exhaust funnel. An 8-16 cell VLS made up of the large VLS from Chinese destroyers would be perfect for the Pakistani Type 054A/P. It can fit LACM, or HQ-9, or long range ASROC, and possibly even anti-ship ballistic missiles. It would completely change naval warfare for the PN. This one ship could be a serious threat to not only enemy Submarines and destroyers, but even enemy Carriers, without having to calling in the Air Force.

VLS fired ASBM; with new warhead technology; hypersonic gliders; this could have an extremely long range and help knock out enemy carriers at the first indication the enemy is launching a massive attack

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Chinese Navy May Be First To Get Ballistic Missiles

A Department of Defense report suggests that the Chinese Navy may put anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs) on its new cruisers. If so, they could become the most heavily armed anti-ship surface combatants in the world.

www.google.com

- shipborne near space HGV antiship missile
-shipborne ASBM

These two forms up the backbone of PLAN's next generation anti-ship role.

 

[ARMalik]

I hope its not another "loan" to be repaid with riba.

Dear Mods, please put this little indian out of his misery. His posts are pathetic and trolling. @waz

 

[waz]

Can we leave the off-topic posts out of here please.
This about the Type54A frigate, not development in China and Pakistan.
The Indian troll has been banned. Stay on topic please.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The only things we know atm, Yu-10 heavy torpedo, Yu-11 lightweight.
This is said to be a photo of Yu-10 and YJ-18 from 2018.
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Wow - that submarine has alot of open space - more than i have seen in any USA ship. IS that really inside a submarine, or is it a warship ?

 

[ARMalik]

my only question do we have enough crews?

Yes already trained and ready for deployment. Mix of newbies and experienced staff as per usual. It would be a bit more interesting with Turkish ships.

 

[Basel]

for the first time Pakistan will have the capability to provide air cover and defence from the Sea

VLS will be first in Pakistan navy also

plenty of testing coming our way!

PN did had this capability but after sanctions from US during 90s we lost it.

Now after decades PN will get this capability.

 

[waz]

PN did had this capability but after sanctions from US during 90s we lost it.

Now after decades PN will get this capability.

The Pakistani navy leased ships during those years as well.

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Awesome frigate

 

[Basel]

The Pakistani navy leased ships during those years as well.

Those leased ships had SM-1s mounted on them.