Pakistan Navy successfully test Anti-Ship Guided Missile

[Quwa]

Hi,

It works for sweden----because they got Big Daddy Uncle Sam standing behind them to cover their ar-se---.

So the swedes came up with a little potent aircraft----that won't be expensive to operate---and in case of war---nato forces are right there.

Sweden's neutrality spanned both ways, they didn't want to be part of the Soviet camp, nor were they part of NATO. Sure, the NATO/U.S. might have come to their aid in the event of a Soviet invasion, but Western Europe would have done it to halt the Soviets, not to save the Swedes. Worst case scenario, Sweden could have ended up carved up and exploited; neutrality had its risks, but in the end, it was the right choice. And even today (in the midst of the whole War on Terror stuff), Sweden has kept its voice calm on the matter, why invite unnecessary pangay?

To be honest, I do see your point. If the Soviets remained, I don't think the Swedes would have just stuck with only the Gripen. If the Soviets were lining up Su-27s along the area, I imagine the Swedes would push forward a menacing twin engine design of their own, call it the "Kracken"

 

[SQ8]

You have quite a curiosity for top secret information.

Not exactly top secret if people know how to google search it. Declaring a weapons system operational does not mean it skipped arms transfer websites or the plain hints to it over the past 4 years.

As an example; you dont declare a Nuclear wing of an armed forces ready unless you are both calling a bluff and showing that you can. Considering that PN installations are pretty compromised in terms of HUMINT and IMINT thanks to their location(Hence the need to get Ormara developed into a full fledged base).

Reminds me of a certain Asian gentleman who back in the mid 90's was told by another gentleman from good old pind while at a common establishment in Dubai about the possibility of launching ballistic missiles during an earthquake. To which the man obviously got offended and remarked starkly about not getting his white hair just like that(to the less astute it meant he isnt stupid), after which he asked for the dimensions of the ship's open platform and expected sea states so that he could come up with an idea.

But, that was over twenty years ago..

Sweden's neutrality spanned both ways, they didn't want to be part of the Soviet camp, nor were they part of NATO. Sure, the NATO/U.S. might have come to their aid in the event of a Soviet invasion, but Western Europe would have done it to halt the Soviets, not to save the Swedes. Worst case scenario, Sweden could have ended up carved up and exploited; neutrality had its risks, but in the end, it was the right choice. And even today (in the midst of the whole War on Terror stuff), Sweden has kept its voice calm on the matter, why invite unnecessary pangay?

To be honest, I do see your point. If the Soviets remained, I don't think the Swedes would have just stuck with only the Gripen. If the Soviets were lining up Su-27s along the area, I imagine the Swedes would push forward a menacing twin engine design of their own, call it the "Kracken"

I would doubt it. The swedes had a differing defence policy as compared to the rest of Europe. They intended to let the battle draw into their territory bit by bit and let the Soviets get drawn into ambushes all the way. Their strategic reserves and almost every other weapon was dispersed in ways that would leave many befuddled. They did have their secret alliances with NATO but it was a two way street.

Last but not least, at the height of the cold war the swedes had the largest air force in all over Europe with the best net centric capability.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Matter of concern for Pakistan and regional countries.
Secondly, Violation of treaty that India and Pakistan has to inform about Ballistic missile test prior to test.?

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Defence enthusiasts are an unusually inquisitive breed.

And I have tried to support all your inquisitive questions with factual information to help your analysis. Keep up the good work.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Hate speech is not free speech sir. Maybe you missed that somewhere in your development.

As I am unable to reason with you, i shall engage with you no more. Kindly continue on your quest to single me out, for whatever reason you may have. If the administrators don't want me here, you can lobby to have my account closed.

Thanks.

 

[araz]

Those who live in glass house shouldnot question others about attitude. Are you a professional or what that even a respectable language for you comes across as something personal attack or a abusive language.

As you said somewhere else, This is a online blog and forum and I can write whatever I want. So whatever you apply on yourself, judge others with same standards. Dont have double standards every now and then. As they say in Urdu. Meetha meetha hip hip, karwa karwa thu thu.

Cool down man.Dont get riled up over nothing. I dont think things were said with any specific intention. Please continue with the debate rather than the with an argument .
A

 

[Bratva]

Cool down man.Dont get riled up over nothing. I dont think things were said with any specific intention. Please continue with the debate rather than the with an argument .
A

Oh comeon, cant we have a friendly banter ?

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Guys, any comments about above mentioned Indian Test and violation of Treaty?

 

[araz]

Oh comeon, cant we have a friendly banter ?

The banter is with a senior gentlleman and while you are within your rights to write what you want, your posts bellied a certain aggressiveness which was unwarranted and unusual for a poster like you. I would therefore suggest we keep banter with senior people within the decorum of the forum.This is a humble request.
Regards.
A

 

[ziaulislam]

Hi,

It works for sweden----because they got Big Daddy Uncle Sam standing behind them to cover their ar-se---.

So the swedes came up with a little potent aircraft----that won't be expensive to operate---and in case of war---nato forces are right there.

true, yet Sweden was a neutral country and there was no grantee that either uncle sam or NATO would help..the approach simply made war too costly and difficult...

you have even a bigger deterance for long term conflict its called nukes

i am more worried that even the thunder program wouldnt be sucessful due to lack of resources, even now most of thunder production is going on on loans! the first 50 were a complete loan package