Pakistan Navy successfully test Anti-Ship Guided Missile

[Indus Falcon]

According to Haris Khan on the Pakistan Military Consortium (aka PakDef), the Zarb is actually the TL-7, which is the export variant of the KD-88 (a cousin of sorts of the C-802). The specs lined up by @Windjammer also match with the TL-7/KD-88. But the most interesting part of this whole issue is that we gave it a local name, which is something we usually do for a locally produced munition (licensed or otherwise). Doesn't mean we are, but given that we kept the C-802 and SD-10 as-is, it's interesting to see us loco-naming TL-7.

Another note, TL-7 uses an IIR seeker, as opposed to ARH on the C-802. It's apparent that there's an emphasis (in TL-7/Zarb) to get past DRFM-based ECM.

Sorry Sir, irrespective of your source, Zarb is not a TL-7. It's much much better, and the range mentioned in this thread is on an extremely conservative side. MTCR to be blamed, I guess.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sorry Sir, irrespective of your source, Zarb is not a TL-7. It's much much better, and the range mentioned in this thread is on an extremely conservative side. MTCR to be blamed, I guess.

Hi,

You are going to cause some very lose motions somewhere by your statements sir.

First the missile appears out of nowhere---a surface launched anti ship missile at that----good range as disclosed---and now you are topping it off with your comments---that its range might far exceed that as being stated and it maybe much smarter than what the source says it to be.

I am waiting for Mishra to pop up and want to know the specs and our engineering capabilities of how we produced / re-produced this thing.

 

[HRK]

Another note, TL-7 uses an IIR seeker, as opposed to ARH on the C-802. It's apparent that there's an emphasis (in TL-7/Zarb) to get past DRFM-based ECM.

If I am not wrong with TL-7 ARH & TV guidance are also available .... ??

 

[Penguin]

PNS ALAMGIR.

I believe very seriously that our existing f22p can be updated to inherit VLS with medium range missiles. Remove FM90 turret and its lower part from the ship there is easily room for atleast 12 - 16 VLS Launchers.

The shortest Mk41 VLS (self defence module) is 5.3m long, with empty weight for an 8-cell module at 26,800 pounds (12.2 metric tons), and this can fire Sea Sparrow (up to 8) and ESSM (up to 32).

Above is what Mk41 look on as implemented on Perry ships of Australia and Turkey. Which leads me to believe this may be the 6.8m tactical rather than the self defence module ((it takes 2 decks plus some space above deck). In addition to the above missiles, it takes Standard SM2 and VL Asroc (both up to 8). In addition, there is the 7.7m strike length MK41, which can handle VL Tomahawk. The different between self defence and tactical is 1.6m. So, if inserting that in place of HQ7, it takes either 1 deck down and stick out substantially, or goes 2 decks down.

Like wise the French Sylver

 

[Quwa]

If I am not wrong with TL-7 ARH & TV guidance are also available .... ??

Yep. Swappable seekers it seems. Seems we can make it double as a shorter range ALCM (assuming we're producing in-house).

 

[Khafee]

Sorry Sir, irrespective of your source, Zarb is not a TL-7. It's much much better, and the range mentioned in this thread is on an extremely conservative side. MTCR to be blamed, I guess.

Sir, WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!

Just this once, more details pleaseeeeeeeeeeee?

 

[Quwa]

Sorry Sir, irrespective of your source, Zarb is not a TL-7. It's much much better, and the range mentioned in this thread is on an extremely conservative side. MTCR to be blamed, I guess.

To be honest, the only thing I want to know ... is this missile being produced under license in Pakistan?

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

To be honest, the only thing I want to know ... is this missile being produced under license in Pakistan?

You have quite a curiosity for top secret information.

 

[Quwa]

You have quite a curiosity for top secret information.

Defence enthusiasts are an unusually inquisitive breed.

 

[ziaulislam]

The ATR and P3C orions will remain good on paper and in hangars, because facing the 3-Tier indian air threat is impossible:

2 Indian Air Craft Carriers, one is equipped with modernised Mig-29 which is a air superiority fighter.

Indian Ships are escorted by FLAG-Ships like the Kalkota which have long range air defence missiles.

The South Western indian Air Command incudes more than 10 Air Bases, which have the option to send their SU-30MKI in the arabian Sea for sea operations against our air crafts or Ships.

So in which air space our 13 x ATR and P3C orions will operate ? They will play only a defensive role and need round clock air defence escort, which we cant provide !

we are inducting JF-17s

before every one start debunking thunder, reality is that against a massive force light combact aircraft with decent capabliity is the best bet. a similar approach caused the birth of gripen against the Russains

 

[Random Jan-e-mann]

To be honest, the only thing I want to know ... is this missile being produced under license in Pakistan?

TOT long back, two versions produced.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Sir, WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!

Just this once, more details pleaseeeeeeeeeeee?

MTCR's limit is 300km.

Hypothetically speaking, if Country "A" wants to sell a certain capability to Country "B", it has to stay within the 300km limit, If it does not want to ruffle too many feathers.

Now once in the physical possession of Country "B," Country "B" is free to increase it's range to 450km ~ 550km, or whatever suits them.

@Quwa @MastanKhan @Khafee I hope you understand that this is a hypothetical situation.

 

[MastanKhan]

MTCR's limit is 300km.

Hypothetically speaking, if Country "A" wants to sell a certain capability to Country "B", it has to stay within the 300km limit, If it does not want to ruffle too many feathers.

Now once in the physical possession of Country "B," Country "B" is free to increase it's range to 450km ~ 550km, or whatever suits them.

@Quwa @MastanKhan @Khafee I hope you understand that this is a hypothetical situation.

Hi,

Absolutely----we do understand the " hypothetical situation "---yessir.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Hi,

You are going to cause some very lose motions somewhere by your statements sir.

First the missile appears out of nowhere---a surface launched anti ship missile at that----good range as disclosed---and now you are topping it off with your comments---that its range might far exceed that as being stated and it maybe much smarter than what the source says it to be.

I am waiting for Mishra to pop up and want to know the specs and our engineering capabilities of how we produced / re-produced this thing.

Do you expect anything better from loose people

 

[MastanKhan]

we are inducting JF-17s

before every one start debunking thunder, reality is that against a massive force light combact aircraft with decent capabliity is the best bet. a similar approach caused the birth of gripen against the Russains

Hi,

It works for sweden----because they got Big Daddy Uncle Sam standing behind them to cover their ar-se---.

So the swedes came up with a little potent aircraft----that won't be expensive to operate---and in case of war---nato forces are right there.