Pakistan Navy Questions Thread

[Rocky rock]

will PN get the antiaircraft missiles with the u214 subs which germans have tested on u212 successfully?

PN isn't buying u-214 sub's the order was canceled pak is making indigenously nuclear sub which may complete in 2019

 

[Nishan_101]

Although due to some technical and financial reason PN is not looking towards the U-214s but the problem is that PN doesn't have looked nicely towards Agosta-90BS like instead of producing three of them they should have gone for at least 7 of them. After receiving the 1st one they should have tried to assemble the 2nd and 3rd one at the same time and then go for the 4th and 5th one and later on 6th and 7th one, though 1st,2nd and 3rd one won't have AIP in the begining but they will be refitted at a later date. More over they should have upgraded the Agosta-70s in 2000 to remain it in service till 2015 and then replace it with better options. All this could be achieved if we had started work on the similar size third Shipyard at KE&SWs in 1999/2000 and also looking towards Naval base during the construction of Gawadar Port along with three Mega Shipyards there two so that they will going to support future expansions.

During the period of Agosta-90Bs construction we could have looked towards U-212 instead of U-214 and with the help HDWs we can produce it from 2009 till 2015/2017. This would going to replace the Agosta-70s and would add the capability as well.

 

[bilal_khan]

What is latest on Poolster class Tanker?

 

[james5]

Look just by building under certificate one doesn't get the capability to style a deliver with thousands of subsystems.

 

[Ra'ad]

I understand how an airforce, or army operate. But i still dont get how a navy operates, like how are its vessels assigned missions depending on their class. I have seen one example of a typical US cold war style Carrier Group formation where everyone sticks together. But how would pakistans navy operate in the event of a war?

** How are our destroyers, frigates, corvettes, FACs (Azmat) different in their roles? (all have the same weapons)
* When frigates can kill both ships and subs, what do destroyers do?
* Do they all stick together like the US example, or do corvettes (or FACs) operate alone?
* How do our subs work with the navy? (my understanding is that theyre usually alone and indepedent - as assasins)
* How do our fighters like mirages, jf17 work with the navy?

 

[Penguin]

1. PN operate no destroyers, corvettes, just frigates
2. They can be on patrol alone, sometimes assigned to an international group
3. They can be formated in a task group, which probably has a minimum of 3 ships when ASW is needed (3 ships + 3 helis). Such a group would be supported by an AOR plus escort ship.
4. There would be a seperation between blue and brown water units.
5. Subs work alone mostly, although the could be assigned to a task group.
6. Fighter support is called in as needed.

 

[Tshering22]

PN isn't buying u-214 sub's the order was canceled pak is making indigenously nuclear sub which may complete in 2019

That sir, is like comparing apples to oranges.

The U214 is an attack submarine used for active conventional underwater warfare while what your country is claiming to make is a strategic asset, to be used as a last resort.

Besides, foreign countries especially western ones cannot sell anybody nuclear submarines. If that was not the case, a lot of countries would be armed with imported nuke subs.

To answer the gentleman you had answered:

The U214 deal seems to be on hold for now as far as reports go by. But to say that it has been indefinitely canceled would be wrong as rival European countries would definitely want to tap into this area's market if one country succeeds in convincing a major client here.

 

[S.Y.A]

That sir, is like comparing apples to oranges.

The U214 is an attack submarine used for active conventional underwater warfare while what your country is claiming to make is a strategic asset, to be used as a last resort.

Besides, foreign countries especially western ones cannot sell anybody nuclear submarines. If that was not the case, a lot of countries would be armed with imported nuke subs.

To answer the gentleman you had answered:

The U214 deal seems to be on hold for now as far as reports go by. But to say that it has been indefinitely canceled would be wrong as rival European countries would definitely want to tap into this area's market if one country succeeds in convincing a major client here.

maybe they are making a SSN not a SSBN

 

[fatman17]

this rumour of a nuke sub under construction is a figment of someone's imagination.

 

[Penguin]

maybe they are making a SSN not a SSBN

SSN is coming closer to SSBN if armed with long range nuclear tipped cruise missile.

That sir, is like comparing apples to oranges.

The U214 is an attack submarine used for active conventional underwater warfare while what your country is claiming to make is a strategic asset, to be used as a last resort.

Besides, foreign countries especially western ones cannot sell anybody nuclear submarines. If that was not the case, a lot of countries would be armed with imported nuke subs.

To answer the gentleman you had answered:

The U214 deal seems to be on hold for now as far as reports go by. But to say that it has been indefinitely canceled would be wrong as rival European countries would definitely want to tap into this area's market if one country succeeds in convincing a major client here.

Most SS/SSK are for all intents and purposes attack submarines, esp. when equipped with AIP.

 

[Javed786]

Yes
our navy have any plans to buy any aircraft carrier similar to the ins viraat?

 

[Rocky rock]

Yes
our navy have any plans to buy any aircraft carrier similar to the ins viraat?

No man thata thing is so Far to think...it'll drag us to 2020 to think about carrier....so jxt pray... hope for better....

 

[TR.1]

Yes
our navy have any plans to buy any aircraft carrier similar to the ins viraat?

Instead of AC you can get LHD, quarter price of AC. Like 400 million.

 

[DevilDog]

Hey guys, okay you have a good army and your air force isn't bad. But frenkly the **** Navy is fucved up. I think the gov't should give the most money for this branch of **** armed forces. Btw can anyone inform me about Pakistani Naval Aviation? (with pictures pls.)

 

[Gentelman]

is our navy have any plans to buy any aircraft carrier similar to the ins viraat?

negitive....
not till atleast 2028+
still a long way to goo....